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dedge
01-12-2005, 06:33 AM
hey all. first post. woot for me.

i want a 3 litre V6 that will drift and rally. i also want one that looks like a TE magna. i was thinking about the shift in my parents' Patrol that allows them to change between 4WD and RWD. could something like that be fitted to an AWD Magna to make it shift between RWD and AWD? also, what would be the best TE lookalike to do this to? how many multi-thousands of dollars would this crazy experiment cost? mwahhaha *counts pennies*

Phonic
01-12-2005, 06:37 AM
You could get a TE shape Magna thats already AWD (TJ and on models) and get an Evo7+ manual gearbox and get an adapter plate made up to fit it (has been done before). Now you have the rally part.

For a few more pennies get a custom centre diff made up that transferes most of the torque/power to the rear wheels and you will have some sort of drift. Or you could even possiblly disable the FWD part alltogether with more money.

All this will be way easier then trying to turn a FWD Magna into a RWD/AWD Beast. lol

Joukowski
01-12-2005, 06:55 AM
Being able to switch from FWD or RWD to AWD would be great idea but one'll require to re-engineer the AWD magna to do this because the AWD system, in construction is physically connected together and in its current state can't be seperated without a lot of rework.

Phonic
01-12-2005, 07:16 AM
Being able to switch from FWD or RWD to AWD would be great idea but one'll require to re-engineer the AWD magna to do this because the AWD system, in construction is physically connected together and in its current state can't be seperated without a lot of rework.

Yeah, your right. Thats why I mentioned in my post above he has to pick either constant AWD or RWD if he wan't to drift. I'd go for a constant AWD, but have at least 70% of the drive channelled the the rear wheels :P

dedge
01-12-2005, 07:23 AM
All this will be way easier then trying to turn a FWD Magna into a RWD/AWD Beast. lol

hehehhe i had that talk with a mate the other day. he just giggled when i suggested reworking my car >_< apparently i'd need to have my engine facing a diff way and have heaps of stuff replaced. a friend did that with his charade and it cost him 15k.

thanks heaps for the advice tho, i like the idea of putting most power to the backwheels, but i just know that the more difficult/impossible option would make my blood pump faster. imagine a magna with the rear-wheel HP of that drift-ute... DAMN! WHY DOES ALL THE BEST STUFF HAVE TO BE DIFFICULT!!??

ta heaps for your advice =)

dedge
01-12-2005, 08:40 AM
Being able to switch from FWD or RWD to AWD would be great idea but one'll require to re-engineer the AWD magna to do this because the AWD system, in construction is physically connected together and in its current state can't be seperated without a lot of rework.

hey Joukowski, i know this is a vague and ****ty question, but do you guess it would be about as much rework as a change from FWD to AWD? or less or more? cos if it was about same i'd need to find 15k...

Bain
01-12-2005, 09:00 AM
hey Joukowski, i know this is a vague and ****ty question, but do you guess it would be about as much rework as a change from FWD to AWD? or less or more? cos if it was about same i'd need to find 15k...
Unless you are rich and can invest 20+k into a rwd conversion on top of spending around 15 - 20k on buying the car in question then this conversation is pointless.

Are you seriously looking at doing this or just blowing smoke out your bum cheeks?

helloyo
01-12-2005, 09:07 AM
hey Joukowski, i know this is a vague and ****ty question, but do you guess it would be about as much rework as a change from FWD to AWD? or less or more? cos if it was about same i'd need to find 15k...

AWD to RWD will be easier and cheaper the FWD to AWD.

dedge
01-12-2005, 09:08 AM
completely serious. do i have a joking tone?

ok. i don't have endless money. i do have lots. i will buy the car for that much just fine, no sweat. i will have all manner of fruity things done to it as long as they fit below a reasonable threshold. i have no intent of getting a stupid arse conversion done to my car because i've already said that would cost too much. i want to know simply whether the modifications one person mentioned could be done economically, at least under ten grand. this is not a jest.

if i wanted to blow smoke out of my arse i would have just bragged on the mods forum that i am going to make my TE a RWD. WHICH I AM NOT.
that or i would have rigged up some kind of smoke gun inside my butt.

jpeg
01-12-2005, 09:49 AM
go for gold dedge..

isnt there some sort of system that wrex drivers do to cut off the front 2 wheels from drive??

Joukowski
01-12-2005, 09:50 AM
hey Joukowski, i know this is a vague and ****ty question, but do you guess it would be about as much rework as a change from FWD to AWD? or less or more? cos if it was about same i'd need to find 15k...
Very hard to say..... Why don't you add another 4-5k to the the 15k and get a TJ AWD outright? (my AWD cost 23k about a year ago) the AWD is already a well balanced & optimised packaged stock out of the factory.

dedge
01-12-2005, 09:53 AM
go for gold dedge..

isnt there some sort of system that wrex drivers do to cut off the front 2 wheels from drive??


haha ta mate. =D

and about the drivers cutting off their front wheels' power... IS THERE A WAY??!!!!? oooo please i hope so... if anyone knows about this please give your input

dedge
01-12-2005, 09:56 AM
Very hard to say..... Why don't you add another 4-5k to the the 15k and get a TJ AWD outright? (my AWD cost 23k about a year ago) the AWD is already a well balanced & optimised packaged stock out of the factory.

oh dear i've phrased everything wrong. that comment i made seems to have gotten things confused. i was referring to my friend's FWD to RWD conversion, and saying i dont want to pay that kind of money (he paid 15k). im asking if an "AWD to AWD/RWD shift" conversion would cost that same kind of money. i'm dfntly buying the AWD and selling my TE

turbo_charade
01-12-2005, 10:28 AM
go to a performance shop and show them your money, they will be happy to help.

dedge
01-12-2005, 10:33 AM
go to a performance shop and show them your money, they will be happy to help.

haha, that's what i'm afraid of ;)

I guess nobody knows how much it might cost, and i'll just have to save a bit more and go to a performance shop. i just hope it costs a lot less than a FWD to RWD conversion, because i think they're a total waste of money

Phonic
01-12-2005, 11:13 AM
Well If you want to go from AWD to RWD, it wouldn't be to hard on the AWD Magnas. But it will require some custom modifications to the gearbox to eliminate the front drive shafts. Some times this can be easilly done other times not so easilly depending on the gearbox configuration it's self.

It all depends in how the transfer gears for the rear wheels are connected to the gearbox. Going to a gearbox specialist should give you a better idea of what is involved if it is possible at all. :P

turbo_charade
02-12-2005, 09:42 AM
i would just buy a EL falcon, much more torque and similar power, torque is more needed for the doooriftzor