About 3 nights ago i was drivign peacefully along the highway doin about 80 or so taking my work mate home... then all of a sudden the car infront of me decided to Stop and turn right.... WITHOUT INDICATING... stupid me put a little bit Too much pressure on the breaks and the front wheels decided to locked up... Was not impressed with this driver i tell you... :rant: i managed to not hit him... but came really DAMN CLOSE... so i thought **** i need ABS

What much actually be done to convert the system?... and whats a rough estimation for the whole lot? i dont think my brakes are in a very good condition after that night... they squeek like hell and its ear piercing... i should probably go get them tested... but what would be a rough estimation if worst comes to worst?

And also, as soon as that happened my car stopped working propperly... every time i put it in neutral or put in the clutch the revs would drop and rise... as in it would be 1500 then it would be at 0 but the car would still be running? it fixed itself... dunno how... but everythings working fine... i think the car had an alergic reaction to the lockup :confused:

How much to convert to ABS, Heaps. :shock:

First take yourself to a dirt road and pratice squeezing the brakes till they almost lock. As soon as they feel like locking ease the pressure just a fraction. With just a little practice you'll become very proficient at stopping the car at its maximum potential without actually locking up.

Second, leave a bigger gap to the car in front so that when they do something stupid (and how often they do) you wont hafta do a panic stop to avoid em. :D

There was a fairly big gap... although i really should have been paying more attention at night time driving anyway.... but still :rant: who the hell doesnt indicate!! damn ford drivers... lol

well i recken i can get my parents to pay for it... :) if it will save the car from crashing... (i dont even matter) then they will pay... lol

Would i just have to go to a Brake and clutch shop and say... GIMMIE ABS... / can i please have a quote for abs :cool:

I would just like to know some ball park figures... so i dont dismiss the whole idea straight away... and if anyone has done the conversion... and had no troubles?

Would i just have to go to a Brake and clutch shop and say... GIMMIE ABS... / can i please have a quote for abs :cool: ?

You could and they would probably offer you a chair and a drink, thats assuming they could even do it.

Your talking computer, master cylnder, proportioning valves, rotors, possibly calipers, sensors for each wheel and god knows what else, plus labour.

I couldn't hazard a guess $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

are u serious??

u really wanna put ABS on a Non ABS car crazy...

if that model magna came out with ABS maybe you canb swap it over???

I wouldn't do it...

2nd gen is spouse to have the worse abs setup...

I got a 1995 KS Verada Xi, and ABS is shagged... almost ran up the rear end of a 4WD a couple of weeks ago with Benny in the car... braked sorta hard and full on locked em up... were both liek WTF? and that's with ABS...

Alltho if I had a KS Verada Ei or any TR/TS Magna I would get getting KS Xi front calipers!
My g/f (missks) has a KS Verada Ei and my brakes are way better than hers...

But then again, going from melbourne- mount gambier at 2am, having a roo jump out infront of me @ 110km/h the ABS didn't lockup, and I pulled up really quick...

My brakes seem to be alot better than my old mans TF Altera...

But then again, going from melbourne- mount gambier at 2am, having a roo jump out infront of me @ 110km/h the ABS didn't lockup, and I pulled up really quick...

My brakes seem to be alot better than my old mans TF Altera...
I am glad you weren't doing any rediculous speeds at the time when that roo jumped out at you. :think: If you were doing saaaay 200 at the time the roo made an entrance you and your passenger/s would have been toast don't you think?... i think so.

do a defencive driving course... they teach how to break in the wet so you dont lock up as much. and it is the same thing for dry roads but jsut easier :P they arent expenisve and then you can go onto advanced.

defensive driving course's also lower insurance with most places too i think.

do a defencive driving course... they teach how to break in the wet so you dont lock up as much. and it is the same thing for dry roads but jsut easier :P they arent expenisve and then you can go onto advanced.

defensive driving course's also lower insurance with most places too i think.

This is the best option. As Old Fart has alluded to, it'll teach you how to brake in the same manner that he suggested. Its well worth the time and money.

do one of those murcotts courses and u can learn how to do it, it was so worth it.

You'll also need to change the drive shafts as the ABS sensors is a notch type in the hub/axel.
Also the rear as well.

Scotty, I think there must be something wrong with the ABS system on you car. Need to get
it looked at. I had on one occassion had to use it to stop from 60 to 0 in a matter of metres,
swerve and stop to avoid someone who just slammed his brakes and stopped in the middle of
the road. On another occassion, I had to stop going downhill in the rain when a tree fell over.
Third occassion was when cruising at 110km/hr, approaching a railway crossing I suddenly
realised that I have to stop and check for trains. It pulled up pretty nicely.

Not worth it; probably cost you more than the car's value. Better off putting in some good pads, good tyres, replace dampers if they are worn (likely), and learn (emergency) braking techniques.

oh and dont tail gate :cool: lol :bowrofl:

Third occassion was when cruising at 110km/hr, approaching a railway crossing I suddenly realised that I have to stop and check for trains. It pulled up pretty nicely.

I'm glad it did...because that train wouldn't have lol :P

Do what the afore mentioned people have suggested and maybe put some bigger brakes on your car. Much cheaper than ABS for sure even if it is possible to retro fit it.

I'm sure you'd be able to pick up the ABS from a wrecked 2nd gen that has it, and if you could save on labour i cant see it being too expensive. But then again, the defensive driving course is a very good idea, will teach you how to brake more efficiently than the ABS can. Sometimes ABS isn't that great anyway, as it can be slower to release/relock then a human, could mean only a few inches, but could save some nasty damage.

Did not read the whole thread but the ABS system in the second gen is a toilet of a system that has caused many a headache over the years.

You are better off using the calipers and if you have the 4cyl use the rotors from an abs model, they will bolt straight on the car. Then learn how to brake properly and you will have no issues.

For those who do nto know how to brake properly, if you get lock up just back of the brake peddle slightly, regain traction and you are fine.

Lock up is simply a panic reaction

Either way you would need the ABS ECU from the rear LH quater in theboot, the loom, wheel sensors with hubs so you can mount them. The hub rings, the master cylinder from the fire wall, the control unit, booster and secondary master cylinder, brake lines, front and rear calipers, front and rear rotors. Or better still, a third gen with ABS :D

You'll also need to change the drive shafts as the ABS sensors is a notch type in the hub/axel.
Also the rear as well.

Scotty, I think there must be something wrong with the ABS system on you car. Need to get
it looked at. I had on one occassion had to use it to stop from 60 to 0 in a matter of metres,
swerve and stop to avoid someone who just slammed his brakes and stopped in the middle of
the road. On another occassion, I had to stop going downhill in the rain when a tree fell over.
Third occassion was when cruising at 110km/hr, approaching a railway crossing I suddenly
realised that I have to stop and check for trains. It pulled up pretty nicely.

tested it in a empty gravel carpark a few weeks ago, slamed on brakes at 20kph, and it locked up for like 2 - 3 seconds and unlocked for like 1.... diffently in need of it, I was told the master cyl is shagged, so will get that replaced some time soon..... It's only been playing up since I had a truck come into my lane....

The ammount of near misses I had on my L's in that damn car lol.... as soon as I get my P's people stop trying to run me off the road :D

Either way you would need the ABS ECU from the rear LH quater in theboot, the loom, wheel sensors with hubs so you can mount them. The hub rings, the master cylinder from the fire wall, the control unit, booster and secondary master cylinder, brake lines, front and rear calipers, front and rear rotors. Or better still, a third gen with ABS :D

That's what that computer thing is? I noticed it in mine and my g/f's V6 2nd gens, I just assumed it had somthing to do with the fact it was a v6 or verada related :S

may i just ask why some are recomending brake upgrades that are not ABS upgrades. He said his brakes were locking up to easily right. hey theres an idea lets make the brake pads better and the rotors bigger and add 2spot calipers and any other object that can make the brakes lock up even faster .

But anyway like some people have said it is way too expensive a job to be done if a mechanic is going to do it for you. More a save for new car job or do it yourself job, but only if your confident in your mechanical abilities.

Either way you would need the ABS ECU from the rear LH quater in theboot, the loom, wheel sensors with hubs so you can mount them. The hub rings, the master cylinder from the fire wall, the control unit, booster and secondary master cylinder, brake lines, front and rear calipers, front and rear rotors. Or better still, a third gen with ABS :D

So that would be why my ABS is locking up, cuase my master cyl is bleeding inside itself?