HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :bowrofl:

man I am picking myself off the floor

I was looking into these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4595739770&ru=http://search.ebay.co.uk:80/4595739770_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1) powerchips on eBay that everyone talks about.
I noticed Booya said in another thread (can't remember which one) why don't you daisy chain them together and get more power.

I asked the question to the seller performance_tuning_direct (http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=performance_tuning_direct&iid=4595739770&frm=284) ;

Item: +15BHP Power Module Mitsubishi Lancer Magna Mirage FTO (4595739770)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
micjaiy is a potential buyer.
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Hi, if I daisy chain say 10 of these together will i get 150BHP?? (15BHP per chip X 10)

He Replied ;

adam potter <celox123@hotmail.com>
Sent : Wednesday, 7 December 2005 8:24:13 PM
Subject : RE: Question for item #4595739770 - +15BHP Power Module Mitsubishi Lancer Magna Mirage FTO

Hi,

it is possible.



Best wishes.

Adam Potter
Celox Performance

HAHAHAHAHAHA

what an idiot, sif I'm going to believe that!!

or He's got a law degree.....


:bowrofl:

i always see these adverts there so gay

jeez wat a good answear from the dude yer possible hahaahaha :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :nuts: :gtfo:

HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAH

amc eBay attack time you think?

Bugger 10, daisy chain 100 of em, 1500 extra neddies, Wooooooooooot lol

With name like "Potter" a man can be trusted. True? Apparently he also claims that when his tank is full of gasoline, the car goes faster. That would have to be true too?
:bowrofl:

Bugger 10, daisy chain 100 of em, 1500 extra neddies, Wooooooooooot lol

dayum!!!! do you think they will fit under the bonnet? :bowrofl:

hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....


How does it work?
It will modify any standard ECU by telling the ECU that the incoming air in the intake system is cold and so advances the ignition to compensate producing more power. In many cases fuel economy is increased too. Power is increased by up to 15BHP and torque is increased significantly.
It will be more responsive and you WILL LIKE IT.


What difference can you expect?
Increased acceleration at low end revs
Higher top end speed
Faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile times
Quicker throttle response
Smooth out flat-spots
Can increase MPG


hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i am a fool, and have money to part with...

how sure are we that THIS DOESNT WORK???

or is this doing what my emanage already does...

Going by that description... I dont think your ECU really cares if air is cold or not.

CHIP: "HEY! ECU! GOT COLD AIR COMIN MAN! NONE OF THIS HOT AIR SHIZZLE!"

ECU: "SWEET, THANKS CHIP! I'LL MAKE THE CAR GO FAST NOW!!"

Nuh uh.

Just another thought, so daisy chaining them would tell the ECU that the air is really really really really cold?

CHIP1: "HEY! ECU! THERE'S SOME REAAALLLY COLD AIR COMIN! I'm TALKIN ICE COLD, FOOL!"

CHIP2: "HEY! ECU! THERE'S SOME REAAALLLY COLD AIR COMIN! I'm TALKIN ICE COLD, FOOL!"

CHIP3: "HEY! ECU! THERE'S SOME REAAALLLY COLD AIR COMIN! I'm TALKIN ICE COLD, FOOL!"

CHIP4: "HEY! ECU! THERE'S SOME REAAALLLY COLD AIR COMIN! I'm TALKIN ICE COLD, FOOL!"

CHIP5: "HEY! ECU! THERE'S SOME REAAALLLY COLD AIR COMIN! I'm TALKIN ICE COLD, FOOL!"

ECU: "DAMN, THAT **** IS WHACK! IMA MAKE THE CAR GO REALLLLLLY FAST THEN!!"

Just another thought, so daisy chaining them would tell the ECU that the air is really really really really cold?

CHIP1: "HEY! ECU! THERE'S SOME REAAALLLY COLD AIR COMIN! I'm TALKIN ICE COLD, FOOL!"

CHIP2: "HEY! ECU! THERE'S SOME REAAALLLY COLD AIR COMIN! I'm TALKIN ICE COLD, FOOL!"

CHIP3: "HEY! ECU! THERE'S SOME REAAALLLY COLD AIR COMIN! I'm TALKIN ICE COLD, FOOL!"

CHIP4: "HEY! ECU! THERE'S SOME REAAALLLY COLD AIR COMIN! I'm TALKIN ICE COLD, FOOL!"

CHIP5: "HEY! ECU! THERE'S SOME REAAALLLY COLD AIR COMIN! I'm TALKIN ICE COLD, FOOL!"

ECU: "DAMN, THAT **** IS WHACK! IMA MAKE THE CAR GO REALLLLLLY FAST THEN!!"

after that,

ENGINE: WTF IS GOING ON ECU?.. CAN YOU PUT A TURBO ON ME OR SOMETHING!

Yeah, i'm thinking with like 20 of these things the chip will be telling the ecu that we're not talking gaseous air anymore, this stuff isnt even liquid oxygen its just a lump of solidified air sliding up the intake and to tell the motor to get up to warp 9 ASAP!

dpack_1 pointed this thread out to me. Classic! I've sent another time-wasting message to the auction lister, saying:

"My friend told me if I put ten of these together, I can get 10x as much power. I want as much power as possible - how many can you sell me?

Maybe I can take my battery out and put 100 or 200 of them together where it used to be. My friends won't be able to beat me in races any more then!"

Let's see if I get a reply... ;)

Hahaha, it's probably cheaper to just install a Kilngon in the engine bay so he can yell at the engine for you.

HAHAHA, or Mr T!

"Be goin faster, FOOL!"

dpack_1 pointed this thread out to me. Classic! I've sent another time-wasting message to the auction lister, saying:

"My friend told me if I put ten of these together, I can get 10x as much power. I want as much power as possible - how many can you sell me?

Maybe I can take my battery out and put 100 or 200 of them together where it used to be. My friends won't be able to beat me in races any more then!"

Let's see if I get a reply... ;)

Let us know what happens lol

Hahaha, it's probably cheaper to just install a Kilngon in the engine bay so he can yell at the engine for you.

HAHAHA, or Mr T!

"Be goin faster, FOOL!"

Hahah "we shall be glorious in our victory of more power, then we will celebrate with the drinking of blood wine" lol

It will modify any standard ECU by telling the ECU that the incoming air in the intake system is cold and so advances the ignition to compensate producing more power.

isn't this wrong anyway? its not actually getting any colder air, just thinking it is... so its adjusting ignition pointlessly?

Well to my (limited) knowledge, I'm unaware that the ECU gives a sh!t how hot or cold the air is; obviously it is going to mater to your engine however. But the way it is installed, it sounds like it runs off a wire off the MAF?

Actually, I'm pretty sure it says "any engine sensor wire". So it's not even connected to the ECU. How would this effect the programming of the ECU at all? Apart from signals taking a fraction of a second longer to get there? If this is the case, its not adjusting ignition... its delaying it, if anything at all!

Scam!

The ECU DOES monitor what the temp of the air is coming through the MAF sensor it allows it to adjust ignition timing to increase effciency. The hotter the air is the more the spark must be retarded to prevent detonation. In comparison the colder the air is the more the spark can be advanced (to a point) to produce more power. This is why on turbocharged engines they mount massive fridges out the front to cool the air from the turbo so spark may be advanced and produce more power without detonation.

so in theory you could intercool a NA engine with benefits?

']so in theory you could intercool a NA engine with benefits?
put yur pod at one side of the intercooler, then run the other side up to yur throttle body

BP Servos sell Ice
Stick some in ur intake pipe

I thought the air sensors only measured the MASS of the incoming air, which is why cold air is better because the air has more MASS. Didn't someone say on here awhile ago that it wont work with the magnas air flow sensor because it only detects mass and not temp?

']so in theory you could intercool a NA engine with benefits?Not unless you're using active refrigeration. An intercooler can't decrease the air temperature below ambient. The reason they're used in turbo configurations is because the act of compressing the air increases its temperature up to 60 degrees above ambient and that's bad, mmmkay?

I thought the air sensors only measured the MASS of the incoming air, which is why cold air is better because the air has more MASS. Didn't someone say on here awhile ago that it wont work with the magnas air flow sensor because it only detects mass and not temp?the Magna MAF sensor body also houses a temperature sensor.

Correct me if I am wrong - but I presume the measurement of the mass of air is as follows:

Mass = Volume x Density
Density is inversely proportional to temperature.

Flow rate = Volume / Time

Therefore by measuring the flow rate and the temperature (and assuming that the content of the air is the same - I presume this is assumed - although possibly the car can actually sense the oxygen concentration?) you can measure the mass of the air.

Generally more mass of air means more oxygen and more available combustion, which as far as I know, is how turbos and superchargers work.

Oh okay, like I said I dont really know too much about it all. But whats the point in telling the ECU that there is cooler air when there isnt? Like this mod supposedly does. Sounds like its really just lying to the ECU. Surely that cant be beneficial?

Oh okay, like I said I dont really know too much about it all. But whats the point in telling the ECU that there is cooler air when there isnt? Like this mod supposedly does. Sounds like its really just lying to the ECU. Surely that cant be beneficial?
Tells the ecu theres more air so it pumps more fuel in, which gives you a bigger explosion, but is dangerous to the engine and can cause overheating.

Oh okay, like I said I dont really know too much about it all. But whats the point in telling the ECU that there is cooler air when there isnt? Like this mod supposedly does. Sounds like its really just lying to the ECU. Surely that cant be beneficial?

All this thing does is tell the ECU you are getting colder air than you really are so the ECU will advance spark and give you more power. It is dangerous because there is no actual tuning involved so cannot suit all conditions.

Hmm I see. Well that daisy chain effect would be terrible then, ignition would be way off!

Better just to spend the extra money and get the CAI, so you actually are feeding cold air in, rather than lying to your poor ECU.

Lying makes baby jesus cry.

i was pondering the same thing today in the chicken treat drive thru, but with a dry ice system instead!!

i was pondering the same thing today in the chicken treat drive thru, but with a dry ice system instead!!

ya see, theres ur first problem, pondering in the chicken treat drive thru :P

Hmm I see. Well that daisy chain effect would be terrible then, ignition would be way off!

Better just to spend the extra money and get the CAI, so you actually are feeding cold air in, rather than lying to your poor ECU.

Lying makes baby jesus cry.





:bowrofl: :bowrofl: classic

if you really want more cold air, just hook a pipe up from an aircon vent to the intake.

now without sounding like more of a tool than i already have, i have actually pondered this myself....not while sitting in a chicken treat drive through though. and i don't mean for drag purposes though. i mean more for cruising down the highway when you have the aircon going anyway. as i seriously doubt the gains would outway the loss of power from having the aircon on, it could have its advantages, like if its a hot summers day and you are pulling out to overtake a granny in her p76. and i'm only talking about taking a small amount of air out of the cabin.


now if anyone is actually bored enough to try this let me know how it works. and i already know how much of a crazy/stupid idea it sounds, there is no need for rude replies.

Could the flow of the air conditioner keep up with your intake? Would the air produced have more moisture than normal air, and create some nasty problems?

Hmm, sounds too crazy for me. I'm sure someone would've done it by now if it was possible.

dpack_1 pointed this thread out to me. Classic! I've sent another time-wasting message to the auction lister, saying:

"My friend told me if I put ten of these together, I can get 10x as much power. I want as much power as possible - how many can you sell me?

Maybe I can take my battery out and put 100 or 200 of them together where it used to be. My friends won't be able to beat me in races any more then!"

Let's see if I get a reply... ;)
any luck on this one yet?

if you really want more cold air, just hook a pipe up from an aircon vent to the intake.


I dont think the aircon gas would do your engine any good.

I thought that cold air is only good for the engine because colder air = denser and has more oxygen ? So wouldnt a temp sensor and an oxygen sensor pretty much do the same ?

is the air that comes out of the aircon gas or cooled air? i thought it was just cooled air. like in a fridge it only cools the walls, which cools the inside air.

Intercooler on a N/A engine no good, I've heard it's too hard for the engine to pull air thru creating large lags in airflow.

Air con does not give off gas into car it cools (heats for the scientists) the air by passing it thru a device similar to an radiator but using gas instead of water to cool. Thought about this my self but the airflow would be far too much for this too handle, Roughly 50 CFM for every 1000 RPM

:D

this threads almost a year old mate :P

this threads almost a year old mate :P
so?

my mate fitted one to his falcon, and sufferd minor traction loss when normally, he had traction. they apear to work

hahaha i forgot about this thread.

Close it now!!!

*EDIT* lol he is no longer a registered ebay user

I fitted 10 of these chips and gained 150hp atw. But only if I use Shell V-Power.