View Full Version : RPW New Product K&N Cold Air kits for Manuel and AUTO Mo
Mitsiman
09-10-2003, 04:37 PM
Yep you read it right.
RPW has now completed its test fitting of cold air kits for both the manuel and AUTOmatic model Magna vehicles and both fit.
The manuel models are easier to fit and the kit does not need to be altered except for one area which will be described in the supply kit.
The automatic models require several minor mods to be fitted and take twice as long but the effects are great.
Manuel as the first cold air kit on his manuel and hopefully he will be able to give everyone his opinion.
The auto model vehicle i have asked teh customer to post on the forums his opinion as well.
Fitting time is around 1 hour on a manuel, and 2 hours on an auto. The manuel can be done at home, the auto would need to be done at an auto shop.
This kit relocates the rampod and air cleaner itno the front bumper in front of the passenger wheel. It is protected from damage by the fitment of a K&N Precleaner kit as well, comes in a neat black smooth bore plastic tubing and comes with brackets and clamps, all components necessary.
I do not have photo's yet but will get some soon.
This of course uses the MAF sensitive K&N model air filter we usually import.
pricing is the thing - they are expensive. The kit retails for $560.00 AUD$ including the air filter. BUt I highly recomend it.
David Thomas
www.rpw.com.au
Manual
09-10-2003, 04:50 PM
ok ok - I did get the first one to trial on my car - and because i put my car to it's limit on occasion i know what it has been capable of and what the improvements were in every aspect.
(Racing Autokhana's is always good for a proper test)
These improve Revability in a huge way!! As far as increased power goes - not a huge improvement.
The main things you notice is the induction road under load (open revving does nothing with the sound) and you will love it - you can drive gently and not know it is there or you can put it in 2nd and race above 3500 RPM and listen to it roar - gets ppls attention and they don't expect it from a magna.!!!
Redav - he can give the qld guys an inside as to the sound it makes and also he can back me up on the fact it gets very cool air into the engine.
When we went cruising when he was in Perth we ended back at mine and popped the hood - the piping on the engine side was maybe 3-5 degrees warmer than the ambient air temperature (not bad considering it is next to a hot engine) on the side not next to the engine the pipe was a considerable 5+ degrees cooler than ambient temperature!! This means the air getting into the engine is a dam site cooler as the Plastic is used to block heat transfer!!
I recommend this highly and blake will also agree it sounds insane!!
Manual
RessurectoR
09-10-2003, 04:52 PM
Can it in anyway be altered to fit TR/TS 4cylinders?
AussieMagna
09-10-2003, 06:49 PM
Well i have had the privellidge to see and hear this in Malcolms car and let me say i was very impressed. Looks fantastic in the V6 engine bays. While im a fan of looking at a nice pod under the engine bay this kit would result in a better gain.
Its a little pricey but i would go all out and spend the money if i had a V6 :D
User_1
09-10-2003, 07:17 PM
great work.. real pitty about the price. can the kit be purchased without the filter? Be kinda stupid to buy the exact same air filter all over again for those who already have a pod.
cthulhu
09-10-2003, 08:13 PM
What is the puddle clearance like? How likely is it that some water will get splashed up into the pod? It is just coming into the monoon season here in Darwin and it is not uncommon to see water up to the level of the bumper if it pools on the side of the road.
I'd hate to toast my engine for the sake of a bit of extra torque. :cry:
EuroAccord13
09-10-2003, 11:31 PM
Dave, is that tube rubber? I was wondering if u can manufacture that in like stainless steel or something..
Thanks
MagnaBishi
10-10-2003, 09:08 AM
[quote:2797d4cf4b]Um why do you even need the special K&N filter with such a long piping, all air by the time it travels about 15cm travels in a straight line anyway so wouldn't a normal pod by now do the same thing as that one. I mean I know normal pods swirl the intake air but travelling that far my engineer mate says the special pod is probably a waste of time. Would be interesting if you did some test with standard pods with the long pipe to see is you need the ultra expensive one. If it worked with a standard pod then the price would drop considerably. Just a thought
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that's because the tiny box with the airflow sensor will be relocated under the front bumper too, you still need the oval filter.
megatron
10-10-2003, 10:27 AM
can you just get the piping for ppl who have already got a filter??
Mitsiman
10-10-2003, 02:58 PM
Okay to answer some of your questions
Firstly for those who already have the pod filters no you do not have to buy the complete kit as because if you have brought one of the RPW K&N Rampod MAF Sensitive units from us we will supply the kit minus the filter for $350.00. But only if you have purchased our filters as that is the onlyr eason I would break up the kit.
Now for the cost of it - firstly I have to import these products from teh USA, which means there are freight and import charges, and these kits come in a big box so you are paying more for cubic size rather than weight on freight.
We have not charged for research time - we fitted these two kits labour free to two customer vehicles to confirm fitment and work out any mods needed. Now that we have done this the kits are available with what we consider a fair markup.
The kits will not suit anything but a TR-Ts model vehicle.
I have one kit left in stock at this moment and depending upon demand, will decide furture kits. If we can get enough pre-orders I will get the kits brought over on sea freight instead of air freight which should drop around $40.00 of the price on average.
Finally these kits are plastic moulded piping, come with support brackets (Made by RPW), hose clamps, rubber tubing etc.
WE looked into getting a copy of the piping made in plastic but we would need to get a jig made at something like $20,000 dollars and then we could get the pipes made for something liek $4.00 each but not in the same high qaulity as this piping.
Unfortunatly we don't have this money and you could not relaly make this piping in metal as the bends are too tight and the size too small.
Anyway hopefully have some photos soon.
Manual
10-10-2003, 03:17 PM
I will try and get some photos of mine for ppl to see how it looks in teh car - it has changed the whole look - the 6G74 and 6G72 in teh magnas looked so cramped - but then take out all the air box and snorkel and it is quite empty now!!
If only I had a digital camera - or an internet connection that worked at home! GGrrrr!! I have some short videos to let you hear the sound of mine - if i ever get around to uploading them!!!
Manual
Manual
10-10-2003, 03:30 PM
yes - it will suit TE+ cars
RessurectoR
10-10-2003, 03:40 PM
I'd kill for a TE+ :cry: :cry:
^insert name
11-10-2003, 10:07 AM
that price is compleatly out ragous!!
:'( thers no way i wouild ever pay that much for a filter and cai
money would go towards extractors at 500 not filter dam!!!
is there anyway u can sell me the pipe? alone??
then i can save up l8ter and get the pod??
dam thats EXPENCIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tiphareth
11-10-2003, 02:35 PM
i also had the pleasure to see malcoms setup when first complete, and indeed the setup looks insane. very neat, and tidy, and sweet to look at
at an excellent roar!
Trav
Redav
11-10-2003, 03:58 PM
Silly me had a camera with me when I looked under his bonnet. Silly me failed to take ANY photos / video that night.
Manual, any sign of those girls again?
Manual
13-10-2003, 12:41 PM
No redav - not the same ones anyway - there is always more!!
but as for pics - Chris and Trav both took pics so pics should be up soon!!
Come on guys!!
Manual
RessurectoR
13-10-2003, 06:04 PM
Here ya are:
^insert name
13-10-2003, 06:44 PM
i would love to perchase a tube if possible please
**costomer**
:D i dont want the filter tho,, not yet i cant aford that yet BUT I would love to install the tube now :D
...
TZABOY
13-10-2003, 07:25 PM
Good to see that the TR/TS V6 range doesn't get a mention :evil:
Looks like Killbilly and myself will go back to the drawing board for our cold air induction; at least our intake pipe will be made of carbon fibre
The Jackal
14-10-2003, 02:56 PM
How about someone post a sound wav of that thing in action? I would like to see how it sounds. =)
Madmagna
14-10-2003, 03:46 PM
Very expensive bit looks ok.
Do not like the MAF being moved like that, may be ok but doubt it. would like to see dyno results first
Booya, comon mate, enough of the racist comments, this is a public forum which anyone is welcome to join, no matter where they come from or what thier origin. Just because you may not agree with what happened to that Magna it was given to them to do what they wish to it. If you want to point a finger point it at the government.
Well that is my 2 bobs wort, feel free to flame me for this post.... :D :D
Killbilly
14-10-2003, 04:05 PM
Yeah I agree with Mal.
I dont personally take offence to it, but there could be an aboriginal person on this site who does.
Just exercise a little caution :) Thanks mate.
BTW I'm not meaning to be superlatively PC, I just mean for ppl to think twice before they use something like that.
Anyway, lets get back on topic.
The unit looks good. I too would like to see the results, I wonder what the benefit(s) of moving the MAS sensor is/are?
EuroAccord13
14-10-2003, 04:46 PM
Pipe does look nice... pity the beauty has been destroyed by the dusty engine bay... :p :p
Are there options for other colours?
Sorry Manual, Just gotta have a go at ya! Sorry Joking Only... :D
Tiphareth
14-10-2003, 05:19 PM
my sh**ty camera...
Mitsiman
14-10-2003, 10:50 PM
We can't sell the pipe seperately as that means breaking up the kit for someone who wants to buy the kt complete.
As well we can only bring a limited number in at any one time due to there high price so this is strictly order, pay deposit and deliver in 1 monthts time as we have to import them in from the USA.
We will only break the kit if someone has purchased the K&N Rampod from us previously as we appreciate there patronage
The MAF sensor is down there for two reasons
(A) It has teh air tempature correction factor which allow smore accurate tuning
(B) The air cleaner bolts directly onto it and by using the correct filter greater air flow and improved throttle response.
Photos look good I hope no one minds if I copy them nad place them on our website
Tiphareth
14-10-2003, 11:07 PM
nah go for it Dave
sure the others wont mind either :D
Trav
^insert name
16-10-2003, 02:42 PM
yeah no worries..
so how much does it cost for the pipe alone for the peopple who have already got the filter??
how mych for the filteR?
Manual
16-10-2003, 04:27 PM
go for it dave - that is my car and i was trying to get a pic for you and that is the first one to be taken - hmm, will have to get a decent day shots for you shortly!!
Manual
Mitsiman
17-10-2003, 08:07 AM
The kit minus the filter and adapter is around $350.00
Redav
16-12-2003, 09:00 PM
Dave, ever get a chance to grab any more photos? I'm particularily keen to check out attachment to the throttle body, MAF and how it's fed into the filter from the light hole.
Manual, can you assist? Have many people bought one of these?
Mr İharisma
17-12-2003, 08:30 AM
AU $560 + shipping and freight + insurance to get it to the East cost + the cost of 2 hours labour to get it fitted doesnt make it a cheap option for those on the East Coast. :cry:
Good work all the same.
Killbilly
17-12-2003, 09:46 AM
What is the hose you use Dave?
Is it smooth bore air induction hose? Like the stuff used in pneumatics and hydraulics? If it is I can understand the price, that stuff is $100/m
Perhaps if you source a cheaper alternative for people on a lesser budget?
I can do some research for alternatives if you wish as my old man practically runs Hawkesbury Hydraulics.
Redav
17-12-2003, 10:22 AM
I think it's sourced from the US as it is. He modifies it to be adaptable to our cars. I'm sure it's smooth on the inside. It doesn't look like cheap piping.
Manual
17-12-2003, 10:24 AM
Killbilly - it is not hose - it is a solid plastic - that is smooth on the inside - minimal folds makes airflow very good!!
I will see if I cannot take some more pics this weekend for everyone.
Manual
Killbilly
17-12-2003, 10:28 AM
Ahh ok..it sounds similar to the stuff Im talking about..it's 100/m because it has to be made and shaped when you order it. It's pretty solid too. Prolly the same thing but a different name.
Has Dave thought of looking into a cheaper alternative? You can get smooth bore hose in 90mm with elbows etc that are made especially to keep smooth airflow. Im not exactly sure of the cost, but I think it'd be cheaper as it's all premade and you just click it together.
Would make shipping easier too as the packaging would be smaller.
Oh and pics would be good :D
Mitsiman
17-12-2003, 11:43 AM
We lokoed at getting the process copied here but the plastic manafacturers could not garuantee a smooth bore as well as price.
The kit costs that much because it includes the piping and filter all together.
The only australian manafacturers who could do it would have to make it as three seperate peices and then to get them made we had to start at something like 500 units and the cost was beyond our capabilities.
Killbilly
17-12-2003, 01:23 PM
Fair enough. I'll still have a look around the suppliers of my old mans work, I know a few people myself too..I'll see if I can dig anything up, might be able to save you some money...
dsfsdf
17-12-2003, 07:09 PM
i'd have bought it by now if i didnt already have a pod, i bought it from AM, do they come from RPW? cause i keen to get this piping instead of having the pod sit in a hot engine bay..
Mitsiman
18-12-2003, 08:17 AM
Yes AM was an outlet for RPW so if you bought it from AM then it is one of our kits
dsfsdf
18-12-2003, 10:29 AM
ill contact you about the piping and fitting brackets soon!!! :D
Badmagna
18-12-2003, 07:22 PM
Guys does anyone know if the CAI kit from RPW cause problems with being defected in NSW when used with pod filter? I recently called a few smaller garages who do blue slips testing in NSW (road worthy testing to a higher level if you have changed states or serious changes to car whatever) and they've said they wouldn't defect my k&N POD (doesn't mean police wouldn't though- but atleast I can register the car in NSW as I've moved here from Brisbane)
so yeah does anyone know if I am going to still be pushing it with a rpw CAI kit?
Cheers
Killbilly
19-12-2003, 12:13 AM
As long as the car passes emissions and noise level tests it's fine
MAGWGN
19-12-2003, 06:56 AM
the piping will be fine. thats no issue. its having an open oil based filter in your engine bay that they will defect you for. these filters have to be enclosed.
joeel
19-12-2003, 08:54 AM
[quote="Manual"]ok ok - I did get the first one to trial on my car - and because i put my car to it's limit on occasion i know what it has been capable of and what the improvements were in every aspect.
(Racing Autokhana's is always good for a proper test)
These improve Revability in a huge way!! As far as increased power goes - not a huge improvement.
The main things you notice is the induction road under load (open revving does nothing with the sound) and you will love it - you can drive gently and not know it is there or you can put it in 2nd and race above 3500 RPM and listen to it roar - gets ppls attention and they don't expect it from a magna.!!!
Redav - he can give the qld guys an inside as to the sound it makes and also he can back me up on the fact it gets very cool air into the engine.
When we went cruising when he was in Perth we ended back at mine and popped the hood - the piping on the engine side was maybe 3-5 degrees warmer than the ambient air temperature (not bad considering it is next to a hot engine) on the side not next to the engine the pipe was a considerable 5+ degrees cooler than ambient temperature!! This means the air getting into the engine is a dam site cooler as the Plastic is used to block heat transfer!!
I recommend this highly and blake will also agree it sounds insane!!
G day Manual, When you say there is no huge improvement in power, can you notice the extra performance and is your car faster? Did RPW run any dyno testing? Thanks
SYNRGY
19-12-2003, 09:05 AM
from my knowledge an air filter shouldnt give you more "peak power" but should improve the engine to maybe breath/flow that little bit better...no doubt a decent setup should also improve response especially mixed with a larger/improved flow throttle body.
joeel
19-12-2003, 09:51 AM
[quote="Mitsiman"]Yep you read it right.
RPW has now completed its test fitting of cold air kits for both the manuel and AUTOmatic model Magna vehicles and both fit.
The manuel models are easier to fit and the kit does not need to be altered except for one area which will be described in the supply kit.
The automatic models require several minor mods to be fitted and take twice as long but the effects are great.
Manuel as the first cold air kit on his manuel and hopefully he will be able to give everyone his opinion.
The auto model vehicle i have asked teh customer to post on the forums his opinion as well.
Fitting time is around 1 hour on a manuel, and 2 hours on an auto. The manuel can be done at home, the auto would need to be done at an auto shop.
This kit relocates the rampod and air cleaner itno the front bumper in front of the passenger wheel. It is protected from damage by the fitment of a K&N Precleaner kit as well, comes in a neat black smooth bore plastic tubing and comes with brackets and clamps, all components necessary.
I do not have photo's yet but will get some soon.
This of course uses the MAF sensitive K&N model air filter we usually import.
pricing is the thing - they are expensive. The kit retails for $560.00 AUD$ including the air filter. BUt I highly recomend it.
Hi David,
I want to chew my mates Gen III manual SS. If I bought your Cold Air Box, Throttle body and Unichip, will my manual ralliart be good for low 14's? I don't want to alter my exhaust because it sounds sweet. Cheers
Redav
19-12-2003, 09:56 AM
You might be coming close. What model do they have? You'd might want to get better headers. The Ralliarts are probably alright, but they're probably better. Maybe even a stage 1 or 2 cam.
joeel
19-12-2003, 10:22 AM
You might be coming close. What model do they have? You'd might want to get better headers. The Ralliarts are probably alright, but they're probably better. Maybe even a stage 1 or 2 cam.
I thought there was only one model ralliart. Mine was built augest 2002.
Redav
19-12-2003, 12:12 PM
Haha... just checking! :oops:
Killbilly
19-12-2003, 01:38 PM
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19-12-2003, 01:44 PM
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missks - im a girl
19-12-2003, 03:18 PM
looks like a sweet set up..... wudn't mind gettin my hands on dat kit...... perhaps a trip to perth with the KS is warranted :)
tho plastic or whatever it was i dunno.... it'd look sweet as with stainless steel piping :lol:
that n extractors shud make it run alot better hey?
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