All i can say is HOLY SH!T....
who the hell designed the carby on a magna!! its rediculous i fekkin hate it.....

i have finished rebuilding my engine, got all sorts of good stuff in it...2"exhaust, worked head (shaved and deburred on exhaust side, re seated valves, skimmed...)new valves and springs and seals, new head gasket, hi-tech extractors, invisible cat, deleted air con, all new oil change, new radiator,

now i go and fill up the radiator and give the pipes a squeeze to get aout the air bubbles, then water starts spraying out the back of the carby and inside the intake plenum! faaaarrrrkkkk meee sideaways im so pissed off at this car too much stuff keeps going busted on it....

so i take the fekker apart and the gasket between carby and plenum is ROOTED...
its a plastic kinda material, i guess it is resistant to fuel and oil and stuff.
Where do i get a new gasket?
should i try to find a reco magna carby? anyone got one? or a complete webber with correct jets?

ANY SUGGESTIONS??? HELP ME BEFORE I DRIVE IT OFF A CLIFF....
i was thinking of buying a subaru sherpa, 3cylinder shopping trolly

http://turbocharade.kicks-ass.org/magna/guides/1st-gen/

point out which part is stuffed. save the picture, edit it with paint then email it to me or attach to thread.

I would be putting a weber on there for sure though.

Ditch the carby.... get a secondhand EFI unit from the wreckers or outa the paper.... heaps better.

I second turbo_charade,

Weber carby for sure. I've got a 32/36 Weber, it runs smoothly and gives fabulous performance gains.

Recommended if you want to replace a piece of crap with something good, without the hassle of converting to EFI. :D

im thinking of going straight gas...
so im gonna look into a imco carby or similar and get an adaptor plate custom made...

or

anyon want to sell a webber???

if i was you id look at using a weber 32/36 or a holley. not the weber 34adm as there is a problem with the orientation of the float closing off the fuel when under hard cornering and it really gives me the ****s. just when your about to bag up big time it always runs out of fuel and u get kangaroo petrol.
either that or if u wanna be fancy, try and get a twin carby setup :D

a carby and a plenum thingy is confusing me if its injected is it still called a carby

i cut my own gaskets out of cardboard and then silicon (blue which is resistant to oil fuel and heat )

try gasket material from super cheap
then if not try repco
for the right gasket then mitsu genuine

did you repace the welsh plugs and oil pump as well ?
i owned 2 sherpas and belive me all the parts were shipped from japan only and it was to expensive repair in the end (no parts in australia)
shopping trolly well i found KMART TROLLYS ARE BEST THE STEER VERY WELL

oh sherpers only had 2 cylinders the fiori had 4 cylinders

never been to tasmania are there cliffs there ??? just dont hurt the magna

im pretty sure the fiori is a 3cyl, my mate used to have one as his first car

if i was you id look at using a weber 32/36 or a holley.
Dont get a Holley, there is no need for one of them on an Astron. The sad part is my old man had one on his 351 XC Falcon once and it was more of a hassle than the stock one.

Gday MAG86

I can vouch that the weber 32/36 swap is a relatively straightforward conversion over to the astrons. As far as re-jetting is concerned the stock jets work fine with the astron seeing as the 32/36 is of similar size to our stock mikuni carbs, if anything the secondarys may run a little rich but this is fine. Do some hard-yards and source a 32/36 thru the local tradingpost or at any local wreckers that stock escort or cortina parts, they are not too hard to find. Maybe even give ebay a shot if you want to take the risk. be prepared to be willing to recondition a carb if you find one thats in used condition or buy one that has already been reconditioned, expect to pay between $70 - $150 for a re-coed carb. its a relatively easy swap if you have some mechanical know-how. If you need any reference pictures i do have some photo's from my 32/36 swap

Happy hunting

-Wagon*

Dont get a Holley, there is no need for one of them on an Astron. The sad part is my old man had one on his 351 XC Falcon once and it was more of a hassle than the stock one.
Carbi is no different to EFI in the sence that its only as good as the tuner.

OK
Im gonna keep the mikuni carby for the minut, just until i can build a weber. :cry:

so tonight it all goes back together! :D

Whats the best way to make a gasket resistant to heat fuel oil etc.?
I have loads of silicon, gasket paper, and scalpels razorz blah....

can any one give me advice soon cos im diong it in the next few hours.... :cool:

Thanks dudes.... :redface:
Andrew

ok holy sh!t

ihave put it all back together, and it started 1st go!!!
it was on LPG though....

when i start it on petrol, it runs really smooth for about a minute then just putters and stops.

then i try to start it again and it wont, then i change it to lpg and it starts and runs pretty ok just a bit lumpy v8 feel to it (sounds FAT as).turn it off, then switch to petrol, and then it will start and run for 1 minute...... it all goes round again, stops.... arghhh!

i have only the extractors installed, no pipe or cat or nothin! so its pretty loud... like a drag car..... the idle is set pretty high like 2000RPM and if i set it lower it just dies

ANY ONE PLEASE HELP I WANT TO GO CAMPING THIS HOLIDAYS .....

italian tune up :cool:

italian tune up :cool:

seconded :cool:

-Wagon*

Carbi is no different to EFI in the sence that its only as good as the tuner.
That is true, but the holley was a complete POS on the XC. In any case, my personal preference lies with EFI simply because I understand it better than a carby. Something electronic is always simpler than something mechanical.

That is true, but the holley was a complete POS on the XC. In any case, my personal preference lies with EFI simply because I understand it better than a carby. Something electronic is always simpler than something mechanical.
true, plus you never have to tune them. you just have to make sure all the sensors are working fine.

holleys are generaly touchie at best(as are most hi-po carbs), takes finnesse

Hi all , ive been reading with interest about the probs people have with the carbie fitted to 1994 4 cyl magna's what a godam nitmare , was the engineer on drugs :nuts: !!! . I am really sick of fixing mine or maybe i never fixed it properly either way it gives me the bloody crapers. My question is will a 32/36 weber go straight on without an adaptor plate ? :confused: .

shameless plug time :) i have a webber i purchase for my mazda 989 (1600) with aircleaner redline adaptor plate etc, it was removed off an escort and rebuit before i got it, i fitted this to my mazda started the car ran great no black smoke even at wide open etc then before the job could be finished cables etc i had to put the stock one back on (same day) due to family emergency and i needed the car, its been stored since with paper plugin both ends and tape over the fuel intake i got no idea what jets are in it but it seemed to run the mazda great, been stored that way in a box for like 7 years now :) if anyone wants it few bucks + post and its yours

cheers petew

invisible cat


Does this mean your car no longer has a catalytic converter? The fine for that is huge...

Hi all , ive been reading with interest about the probs people have with the carbie fitted to 1994 4 cyl magna's what a godam nitmare , was the engineer on drugs :nuts: !!! . I am really sick of fixing mine or maybe i never fixed it properly either way it gives me the bloody crapers. My question is will a 32/36 weber go straight on without an adaptor plate ? :confused: .


just so you know dude. your magna is a 2nd generation tr\ts.this is 1st gen section tm-tn-tp:D
about the webber no u will need an adaptor plate cos they never came from the factory like that(magna with webber carb).
but the 4 cly you have is almost the same as the 1st gens (astron II). there's only minor differences between 1st gen 4cly and 2nd gen 4cly.
so with that being said there have been a few members who have done this to there 1st gens.


http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40551&highlight=webber

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35336&highlight=webber

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18161&highlight=webber

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26714&highlight=webber

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16592&highlight=webber

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15669&highlight=webber




oh and the search button is your friend. Use it before you make a post so the nazi's don't get ya and most of the time the question you have will have been alredy been answered. So most of the time it's there if you look.

Hi all , ive been reading with interest about the probs people have with the carbie fitted to 1994 4 cyl magna's what a godam nitmare , was the engineer on drugs :nuts: !!! . I am really sick of fixing mine or maybe i never fixed it properly either way it gives me the bloody crapers. My question is will a 32/36 weber go straight on without an adaptor plate ? :confused: .

need an adaptor plate... the carby base is bigger than the manifold. i can take some photos if you like... as i have a 34adm weber ready to go onto my car with adaptor plate, tps, throttle linkages all figured out. just haven't had time to put it on.

only thing it needs is rejetting.