THanks to Blake from Aussie Magna for scanning these images for me.

These are the dyno printout for those interested. This is at 8 psi boost before the fuel pump started leaning out at more than this boost. We tuned it back to 7 psi boost and dropped back to 344hp at the wheels

HEre is now

Whoowwwww what a BEAST!!!
Bring on the Twin Turbo Skylines'n'Supra's!!! 8) 8) 8)
or any thing else that dare get in it's way!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AWESOME!

Impresssed...a nice even curve 8)

sweeeeeeeeeet!!!

so how are the front tyres fairing????

and when's its 1st timed run going to be?

any guess' of what she'll do??

I was lucky enough to go for a spin :D

Let me say it was pure madness... By the time dave's fought through first and second and managed to grab some traction your doing double the speed limit anyway...

Well worth it! if i had the cash lying around i would fork it out for sure!

sweet......... now the reliability issue :D

360PS is 264.96kw at the wheels! Sweet as!

360PS is 264.96kw at the wheels! Sweet as!
more to the point, its around 350kW+ at the fly!!! through the front hoops...... did someone say torque steer??? Holly Shit!!!

Reliability seems to be fine at this time but thats what I am here for to test the limits although at this low a boost to be honest reliability doesn't seem to be a great issue. Still awesome how much horsepower these heads will flow which is where all this horsepower came from.

Although it was amusing to see Blakes eye's pop out of his head - the four wheel drift round the corner on boost at 120 km/hr was a little scary for both of us but was certainly worth the rush.

That was the first time I ever pushed it that hard and it was worth it.

The car goes back for dyno this week for final tuning and then next wednesday night to the drags on the low boost tune until I get some better tyres for drag / motorkana use and then back to the drags on the racing fuel and tyres.

For te dyno shootout at hte PAS show we will be using the higher boost / race fuel combo to make sure we scare a hell of a lot of nissians.

David Thomas

Good work, Dave. I hope they start snickering when they see your car turn up and start crying when you drive away.

Also hope nothing goes wrong.

When is the TT going on the dyno? Sat or Sun? Around what time? Cos I definately have to see this. Gonna be dragging my Holden and Ford fanatics to witness this :D

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaarkin geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeazus.

:shock: :shock:


edit: ok 8 psi :) what will you be runnign for the dyno ? 15 ? What do you expect from it ?

Hey dave, do you have an anti-lift kit on the car?

Won't know which day on the dyno till we get teh car down to the show.

BUt I will post up on the forum to let everyone know - probably do it on sunday if possible so that we don't have to pull the car display to bits too often.

WHY IN THE HELL WOULD U GET A TT FOR A 2 WEEL DRIVE??
WHY NOT SLAP IT ON A AWD???

seems pointless to me :D!!

Well since mitsu don't make an AWD manual yet, you'd be limited to 240hp ATW if you put it on an AWD.. and what fun is that?

(Yells at MMAL)

BUILD A BLOODY MANUAL AWD DAMN IT!!! 8)

damn thats impressive. over X2 the power output stock. I'd decided to save my $ on engine mods on my car and save them for my next car (which will definately be a turbo) but now the desire for boost is getting tempting. THats a lot of power for only 8psi.. Id make a trip to perth to see this thing at a show on the dyno and everyones faces when it destroys everything else.

Id be worried bout drivability of soo much power in fwd though. So when's the NOS getting done? :lol:

There's a NOS magna over here gami,tis a TR and looks pretty sleeper too 8) 8)

yer ive seen a few nos magnas. know theres one in qld and ive heard of the one in perth and another in vic and nsw apparantly.

WE have decided not do the nos as we are already at the limitrs of the fuel system and to be honest, way above our expected hp gains.

I never expected to get so much power at such a low boost figure, much less run out of large enough internal fuel pumps.

Single turbo fwd magne is our next project and then AWD magna at thr same time with the single turbo kit. The twin turbo option will not be out on the AWD magna for th emoment until they release a Manuel model or unless someone specifically wants one.

We have done several magna's with NOS as sleeper cars and they go very well with it.

Am I the only one that noticed that the dyno printout was corrected to read in flywheel horsepower not at the wheels. Not to take away from what Dave has done but that would make a significant difference to the reading. If in fact that is an estimate flywheel horsepower then the at the wheels reading would be closer to 280hp. For those of you that will ask how that is done, some dynos such as the dyno pack can calculate the driveline loss by measuring run down time.

Cheers
Paul

Bugger - you've gone and burst my bubble. I never realised they were had the dyno at flywheel horsepower. Althought that does explain to me how a 450hp pump was running out of fuel supplying at 8 psi. I did wonder how a 450hp pump could provide more than 450hp at the flywheel.

Okay I stand corrected - we have a corrected 360hp ath the flywheel - not anywhere near as impressive I grant you.

To be honest it felt fast but never 500hp fast at least I know why now. Mind you it is still a very quick car. Now I am definitly going for that 14 psi boost - maybe I may reconsider the external fuel pump / surge tank system after all. Maybe just for the drags and run it as an auxiliary system.

I think what may have tricked me here is that with the stock engine on the other dyno it was reading at the wheels which was 220hp at the wheels. I would say we are in the same range them around 300hp at the wheels which is about right for the same boost we are up approx 150hp over a stock magna.

So thats it - more boost as they say and more fuel.

Normally I'd say thanks for pointing that out to me but I don't feel so happy about that anymore. :?

So only 270kw at the flywheel? Mixed emotions here on my part. 30kw more than an XR6 Turbo: The XR6 having only one turbo, and Half a litre greater than the Magna.

Oh well, pump up the juice and watch the competition fry.

Sorry Dave, didn't mean to be the bearer of bad tidings but I just thought it curious that no one had pointed that out.

Cheers
Paul

P.S. That is still a great acheivment.

Better now than later, ca18escort.

But you've got to stop being right all the time :lol:

woo hoo!!!

booya is still in for a chance to match this TT with N/A power :badgrin: :badgrin:

270 horses at the wheels, for a TT!!! a 100hp shot of NOS will make my 181.1 turn into 281.1 :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

woo hoo!!!

booya is still in for a chance to match this TT with N/A power :badgrin: :badgrin:

270 horses at the wheels, for a TT!!! a 100hp shot of NOS will make my 181.1 turn into 281.1 :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:
Get your fuel pump or whatever upgraded, then run it on the 225hp map and then run 100hp of nos (read: 325hp)!

Then you'll need to put that GT wing on your bonnet to get downforce to your front wheels! (Seriously!)

Well the car goes back today with the 550hp pump and more boost so allow at least another 30 - 50kw at the flywheel and even then we will only be up around 10 / 11 psi boost.

If I fed more fuel then more boost which is something we will now do as I definitly want more power.

geezz.. how many k's would you get from tank dave!!!

by the sounds of it, you'd be luck to have 300clicks from a 70lt fill up!!

I'm curious how you can even hope to accurately convert power at the wheels into power at the flywheel without knowing the exact power loss through the drive train. It is different for every car and even different specimens of the same car.

Sounds really dodgy to me to be quoting power at the engine from a dyno that measures power at the wheels.

geezz.. how many k's would you get from tank dave!!!

by the sounds of it, you'd be luck to have 300clicks from a 70lt fill up!!

The question is.... Would u really care with that much power????


Tim

I just came back from the dyno and have the breakdown fo teh dyno sheet.

For those interested we do have 360hp at the front wheels. If you look at it you will see that the HP reading at the wheels and the flywheel are the same. The correction factor for the flywheel hp reading is set to zero.

So I am happy to say that we do have 360hp at the front wheels and with todays tunign on normal pump gas we should finish up at around 430hp.

So to clarify again - yes the figures we have there aer at the wheels - I am so happy again. :D

Excellent to hear!

I was thinking that those seemed very low for a highly modified twit turbo system.

360hp at the wheels is roughly 268kW

hmmmm niiiiiice that's how much the XR8 has at the fly ;)

woohoo \:D/

I am a little happier about it lets defintly say that - I was a very dejected person last night but my faith has been restored.

Watch out nissian owners thats all I can say.

dave,
any idea when final tuning will be done and official figure can be released...mmmmmm can't wait for the 14psi figures

Tim

...highly modified twit turbo system.

:lol:

But seriously, that's good news.

Pheww :)

I want to see this at 14-16 psi!!! :D Real boost figures hehe

ROFLMAO I had NO idea I wrote that!

killbilly wrote:[quote:517bf03d3e]
hmmmm niiiiiice that's how much the XR8 has at the fly [/quote:517bf03d3e]

Very true, but imagine a puffer on the XR8 :shock: 300+ rw kW, There is a very factory looking system out now for the XR8s that does this.

Yeah, but pitty it's illegal.

Yeah, but pitty it's illegal.

what adding a BLower to a XR8???

i though Capa kits were street legal and came ADR approved?

I didn't know this but apparently it's illegal to put a supercharger on an 8. Don't know if that's Queensland only or not but a few people have said that now.

I didn't know this but apparently it's illegal to put a supercharger on an 8. Don't know if that's Queensland only or not but a few people have said that now.

what about when they come FACTORY with a blower on a 8,
cos the AMG tuned vehicles most have blown V8's mmmmm AMG V8 BLOWER!!

That's obviously fine. I'm chasing up some info now.

Well we went down and a great success. Did some mods to the O2 sensor set-up and the Greddy came up very nicely for the tuning. We placed some larger 450cc injectors in the car just for insurance and took it down for tuning. With immediate results we proceeded with it nicely and at 9 psi boost we were up to 386hp at the wheels immediately. Injectors up to 77% duty cycle (Glad we changed them), fuel pump looking good - time to raise boost. Slowly we raised it up to 11 psi and bang - (Not bang as in blown) 407hp at the front wheels on BP Ultimate 98 fuel.. Nice flat torque curve, no detonation on a very safe tune. We started to go further - but you guess it we now need to do more modifications.*
It seems our 3" mandrel bent straight through exhaust is too small and we need to go larger on our dump pipe to a complete 3 1/2" system all the way through. The back pressure on the turbo's has become a limiting factor as well as our intercooler is starting to get higher in air temperatures telling us we need more air flow / possibly larger intercooler. This is our next project over the next month and then back for more work - after we sell the exhaust on our car as it is which already sounds great.
Most amazing is that we have over 500 ft/pd of torque at the wheels - this is more than a 600hp EVO IV lancer had at the wheels and is in the realms of Group A Touring Car time. Did someone say auto trans - I think I saw it in pieces down the road. The Manuel box is handling it nicely, the special clutch is a dream. For the first time I went as a passenger as Andrew Jordon from Speed Works who tuned the car drove, and I was literally scared at how fast the thing accelerated. Very different being a passenger let me tell you.
So that is the latest news - new Dyno sheets here soon and once the new exhaust is done we estimate around 450hp at the front wheels on BP Ultimate 98 at around 14 psi boost. Those considering this form of conversion - don't hesitate do it as it is just too amazing for words - if you are in Perth, drop by for a mind blowing drive with David from RPW.

You guys service magnas :P if i service my magna can you take me for a drive.... lmao !!!!
that must get bloody annoying if everyone did that!

but no im seroius.. take me for a ride!!

it would be good if i had a TT setup.... get me to sydney alot faster.... ;)

anyways this is sounding very promising!!! over 400HP!!! :D :D

you mention'd selling that exhaust you currently have,

but being 3" wouldnt that be wayy too big for any N/A magna? would we loose power if we were to wack that on, because there isnt much pressure build up flowing through or something? :-k

335 FWKW, 678Nm of torque.

Bye Bye Skyline :lol:

3" would be too big for an N/A magna.

The exhaust system woudl be suitable for someone who was doing camshafts, high flowed throttle body and other mods of a more serious nature.

Manuel where are you when I need you :lol: I am sure your car needs a new exhaust - stop buying stereo gear.

I think I can be puersuaded to give people a test drive int eh car (Me driver you passenger scared out of your wits) as at this moment I am like alittle boy looking for any excuse to get inthere and drive it.

So what kind of safety features do u have on this beast?Rollcage?ABS?
jus wonderin,being such a powerful car it's gonna be dangerous too 8)

[quote:dda9ec1315]The exhaust system woudl be suitable for someone who was doing camshafts, high flowed throttle body and other mods of a more serious nature[/quote:dda9ec1315]

BUT until then, does this sytem include the/simular "race Spec" Headers??

or is it just piping from the headers back?

right, thats it, i'm ****ing going! anyone up for a road trip to Perth... first stop RPW?!?!

(little dude on left shoulder says "Al, your dreamin buddy!!")

doh!

so dave.... how does a front wheel drive hand that much torque?!?!

kinda makes me think of a cartoon scenario where Dave plants his foot and he sees his front wheels go tearing off into the distance!!

Beleive it or not mostly due to teh LSD it is a very nice car to drive. It pulls straight, no torque steer (With the strut brace) and only spins the wheels if you are doing under 80km/hr

Once above this is just literally flies - and it has so much torque - that any gear at low rpms it just keeps pulling. Doesn't reve too hard only goes to 6500 rpm but it gets there awefully fast.

This exhaust system comes with the high flow cat and back and will bolt straigth up to an oironal EOM manifold/ flex pipe position, and when the race system extractors comes out they will bolt right up to the cat converter supplied with this kit.

Again though - only for the serious racer and for those who have heard this system it is lovely. I am getting the exact same system but in 3 1/2"