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krazed_03
16-12-2005, 12:08 PM
Does anyone know if you have to change the rotor size and safety guard size to fit 17" mags on a TS magna?

GoTRICE
16-12-2005, 12:48 PM
nope; bigger wheels means more clearance most of the time.

krazed_03
16-12-2005, 01:17 PM
how do I change the rear drum brakes to slotted rotors?

M4DDOG
16-12-2005, 01:26 PM
Ummm no you dont have to change the size of the rotors for new wheels and magnas dont have drum brakes, they have 4 wheels disc brakes.

krazed_03
16-12-2005, 01:28 PM
Ummm no you dont have to change the size of the rotors for new wheels and magnas dont have drum brakes, they have 4 wheels disc brakes.
If thats the case how do I change them to slotted??

vlad
16-12-2005, 03:52 PM
The rears are whats called drum in disc brakes. The drum brakes are used as parking brakes and
the disc brakes are for slowing down. AFAIK, You'll need to remove the drum brakes to change
the disc brakes.

M4DDOG
16-12-2005, 05:55 PM
The rears are whats called drum in disc brakes. The drum brakes are used as parking brakes and
the disc brakes are for slowing down. AFAIK, You'll need to remove the drum brakes to change
the disc brakes.
By parking brakes you mean handbrake?
I thought they were just disc brakes, and that's it. I've never been told, hey man, your rear drum brakes need changing.

Killbilly
16-12-2005, 08:02 PM
RDA Make them

DBA Make them

And no, they wont cause more problems with warpage. They are tougher than stock (magna discs are hellishly crap for warpage), and perform better than stock.

The RDA Rotors are better than DBA, they are stronger and they have the added bonus of being cheaper. Also they eliminate "glazing" the slots aren't necessarily for cooling. Thats what cross drilling is for.

And as for having better brakes...what is wrong with that? Everyone on here wants to make their cars go faster, millions of topics on speed, but sweet F.A. on slowing down. When you go faster, you need the brakes to back it up.

As for your aggressive attitude towards the thread I think you should have a holiday. It's not hard to be civil and just discuss. It's people with your attitude that make forums unfriendly and uninviting.

Take 5 days to cool off.

M4DDOG
16-12-2005, 08:35 PM
Dont you think banning is abit harsh? He didn't seem that aggressive, just used abit of capslock thats all.
So whats the deal with the rear brakes? I was under the impression that the only brakes there were the disc brakes, which both the handbrake and actual brake used? am i way off here?

Ol' Fart
16-12-2005, 08:58 PM
That seems a bit harsh KB. I didnt know till a coupla days ago that CAPS means ya yelling. :shock:

Sorry, didnt mean to yell "caps" at ya lol

Seems like a straight forward post to me, made by someone who's bewildered at the requirement for slotted rears,the underlying advice seems fair and honest. Surely this was at worst a PM warning kinda thingy, jigger, scrinson joey or doodad :)

He has used caps before whilst being helpful :D http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14895

manifesto
17-12-2005, 06:25 AM
sif ban

yeah i dont think ive seen any other brakes other than disk at the back. more than one type would get kinda tight for space, and basically un-neccisary wouldnt it?

anyways, i just got my pads replaced + rotors machined - braking increased 10fold. now i just gotta get my shocks done so the car wont nearly flip ass ova tit wen i brake hard!

Killbilly
17-12-2005, 06:48 AM
Yes it is harsh. It's supposed to be. Keep this thread on topic.

Ol' Fart
17-12-2005, 07:37 AM
You dont need to change the brakes for the larger size wheel. If you are experiencig brake problems from overheating etc, like magnabuff said b4 being banned, dood slow down lol

If you put bigger rotors on for appearance sake or whatever you have to get caliper adaptor plates and stuff, not too cheap. If your not racing and arent having any braking dramas I'd leave them alone. :D

If you have drum in disc handbrake (and I've never looked at your model) they dont wear out unless you accidentaly drive with the handbrake on :redface: , otherwise the only time they are used is wen the car is stopped. Of course I know you'd never use the handbrake for anything else. :badgrin:

M4DDOG
17-12-2005, 08:48 AM
You dont need to change the brakes for the larger size wheel. If you are experiencig brake problems from overheating etc, like magnabuff said b4 being banned, dood slow down lol

If you put bigger rotors on for appearance sake or whatever you have to get caliper adaptor plates and stuff, not too cheap. If your not racing and arent having any braking dramas I'd leave them alone. :D

If you have drum in disc handbrake (and I've never looked at your model) they dont wear out unless you accidentaly drive with the handbrake on :redface: , otherwise the only time they are used is wen the car is stopped. Of course I know you'd never use the handbrake for anything else. :badgrin:
You can upgrade to V6 brakes fairly easily which are bigger than the 4 cylinders. Lol i had brake fade once and had to use the hand brake to stop, not fun at all!

Cobra82
17-12-2005, 05:50 PM
SLOTTED BRAKES AT THE REAR ..ARE YOU GOING TO RACE YOUR CAR



I have slotted rotors on the rear. No idea why, i brought the car from auction and it came with slotted rotors all round and pratically brand new pads. Prolly not something i would have personally done but meh it was an added bonus.

M4DDOG
17-12-2005, 06:43 PM
I have slotted rotors on the rear. No idea why, i brought the car from auction and it came with slotted rotors all round and pratically brand new pads. Prolly not something i would have personally done but meh it was an added bonus.
Just wondering, do you find that your brakes wear out quicker?

Cobra82
17-12-2005, 11:34 PM
Just wondering, do you find that your brakes wear out quicker?

Well they havn't worn out yet and i have had the car more than a year now.

krazed_03
18-12-2005, 07:17 AM
I was reading that slotted rotors are pronned to crack easier than the standard rotors

Meh
18-12-2005, 07:22 AM
slotted rotors arent the ones that crack, the crossed drilled rotors are

krazed_03
19-12-2005, 08:37 AM
well knew it was 1 of them that cracked easier

vlad
19-12-2005, 08:54 AM
Proper crossdrilled ones don't crack, like the ones used on Porches. The Porche ones aren't
drilled. They are cast that way. Drilling causes stress fractures. Just like what happened when they
first started cross drilling airplane structures to lessen the weight. Yep, you guessed it, planes
started dropping out of the sky. The ended up drilling a smaller hole and then using an expander
to expand it a little (this compress and strengthens the metal around the edge of the circles.

Yep, the only time you use the handbrake activated drumbrakes is when parking and they should
not need to be changed for the life of the vehicle. The Lancers and some other smaller cars still
use rear drums for parkbrake and normal brake and needs to be changed every so often.

GoTRICE
19-12-2005, 10:09 AM
as above; i have crossdrilled and slotted on just one rotor, had to take it off as illegal but it used to stop like hell a week later got speeding fine, wouldve slowed down in time with old rotor (yes just one).

Crossed drilled also cool much quicker, one of the reasons why is the larger surface area (there are other reasons but i dont feel like going to howstuffworks), for your average magna user when racing laps this is a great quality; slotted chews pads quicker too.

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
21-12-2005, 04:17 PM
...Yep, the only time you use the handbrake activated drumbrakes is when parking and they should
not need to be changed for the life of the vehicle...

:roll: Ummm... yeah, sure only when parking... :D

[TUFFTR]
21-12-2005, 04:21 PM
LoLoLoLoLoL keep your burnout stories to yourself lol

M4DDOG
21-12-2005, 06:06 PM
']LoLoLoLoLoL keep your burnout stories to yourself lol
sif do a burnout in a 4 cylinder :P.

[TUFFTR]
21-12-2005, 06:09 PM
you dont know what _x_FiReStOrM_x_ gets up to dont you lol lol lol lol

krazed_03
22-12-2005, 11:01 PM
how is it that a the steel disc is 14" x 5.5 j but on the 15" its x 6.0 j but yey you guys tell me that nothing has to be changed for 17'' rims to fit a Ts magna and thats if the 17" x 7.0 rims even fit at all?

M4DDOG
23-12-2005, 05:48 AM
how is it that a the steel disc is 14" x 5.5 j but on the 15" its x 6.0 j but yey you guys tell me that nothing has to be changed for 17'' rims to fit a Ts magna and thats if the 17" x 7.0 rims even fit at all?
8 inch wide rims will fit, so in saying that, yes 17x7 will fit, as a few people on here have series vrx rims that fit with no trouble at all.

Al3x
23-12-2005, 07:23 AM
Absolutely nothing brake wise needs to be changed when fitting 17" wheels.

Here's proof:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3053/brakerotor2iq.jpg