If you check this database (http://www.greenhouse.gov.au/cgi-bin/transport/fuelguide/fuelguide.pl?querytype=advancedquery&min_cons=&max_cons=&manufacturer=Mitsubishi&year=1998&transmission=any&fuel=any&vehicletype=any&model=magna&minenginesize=&maxenginesize=&mincityfuel=&maxcityfuel=&minhighwayfuel=&maxhighwayfuel=&sort1=manufacturer&sort2=year) out, it suggests that most '98 TF 3.0Ls should do around 10-11L/100km in the city.

I've never done better than 12-13, and I'm really not a hoon! Though to be fair, my definiton of "in the city" is pretty literal and I rarely get on a freeway of any sort these days.

I've certainly never got anywhere near their 7.6L/100km highway claim.

Maybe just coz the thing has 160000km on it? Or are these figures atrociously optimistic?

Usually they're understated, there are a lot of factors involved:
-How old the engine is
-How effectively the engine is running
-The driver
-Weight of the car
-Having windows down increases wind resistance
-Any modifications
-Petrol used
-Tyres (brand and how much PSI are in them.
There are tons of factors that all add up

They are generally pretty optimistic. Look at some of them(14city/8 hwy for a VY clubsport, id like to see that), they are really only good for comparison betweeen cars. I cant get anywhere near what mine should be(12/8) but then I'm not trying.

Most of these are covered, as much as driving habbits and try all sorts of things like not using air-con etc would help. Even if u use the highway it all depands on whether is for a short or long period as short periods may use your fuel faster even.

My brothers VY clubsport gets about 11km/100km and he drives 50% hwy, 50% running around. Though he drives like a granny lol.

Usually they're understated, there are a lot of factors involved:
-How old the engine is
-How effectively the engine is running
-The driver
-Weight of the car
-Having windows down increases wind resistance-Any modifications
-Petrol used
-Tyres (brand and how much PSI are in them.
There are tons of factors that all add up


as tested on mythbusters, thats not completly true

']as tested on mythbusters, thats not completly true
Hmmm would also depend on the car too, if it was round or squareish.

I dont have a trip computer so i've been working it out by litres used to how many K's i've done and i normally get about 12.4. The best i've had is 11.8 and thats mostly driving in peak hour traffic.

I average 10 to 11 in the city but mine is a manual. Believe it or not i actually made it from Geelong to Canberra on a tank of premium...Just!

Your right it was tested on mythbusters but it wasnt what they were testing they were seeing if aircon used more petrol than windows down... which it did. Windows up uses less petrol than windows down.
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Oh and i get about 600l to a tank which tends to be around 60ltr (thats when i refill i never let the light go on). And i mostly highway drive so 10km/ltr highway.... :cry: wish it was 6.6.

:cry: wish it was 6.6.
Its a big heavy 4 door family sedan, 10 is good. My 3L TS is well above that figure.

Read this (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=392063&postcount=19) before you quote your fuel econ or think its bad. Trip meters often well out.

That is a quantitative means of measuring fuel consumption over a long period. Taking the trip computers display as correct is a long shot.

i'm doing just under 14L/100km... but i got the air con on and alot of start stop driving as well as a bit of a hammering...most times anyway..hmm..should change my style of driving...

Try 18.7, hmm I live in the city, I drive round the city, only when I get out of town do I get reasonable economy. But I do hammer it a fair bit at night. So it all adds up as the long periods of sitting still in traffic dont help.

I get 12-14. My car's heavy and my foots not light either.

Not bad though, as long as I dont keep the fuel receipts I dont need to think about it.

14.1-14.2 this tank so far - was finally able to get bp ultimate in the car in - plus the car has just had the 15k service. and i can't blane anyone else for the driving. this is full city driving. no more than 60km/h. i do drive with the aircon on (windows up - not that it makes a diff below 80)

well my consuption of just under 14L/100km was from errr...half tank of shell unleaded and the other half of mobil synergy 8000 but this time its a full tank of shell optimax so i'll let u know my figures in errrr..the next 2 weeks...or when i fuel up, whichever comes first

ahhh yes it is a large car but i was just wishing can't you let me wish :P Plus im measuring by petrol consumed and distance traveled as i have TE executive with no trip computer in sight.

If you check this database (http://www.greenhouse.gov.au/cgi-bin/transport/fuelguide/fuelguide.pl?year) out, it suggests that most '98 TF 3.0Ls should do around 10-11L/100km in the city.

I've never done better than 12-13, and I'm really not a hoon! Though to be fair, my definiton of "in the city" is pretty literal and I rarely get on a freeway of any sort these days.

I've certainly never got anywhere near their 7.6L/100km highway claim.

Maybe just coz the thing has 160000km on it? Or are these figures atrociously optimistic?

Belive it or not the test that is conducted for highway driving is at a limit of 70km/hr. i rang the number on a fuel consumption sticker from a new car and they sent me a booklet of all the new cars fuel consumptions. it also stated the testing conditions including this so called highway driving ...70km/hr for highways :nuts: must be sunday drivers testing them

i average 10-11l just driving around normally, however living on the sunshine coast i very rarely get into heavy city driving. on the highway however, ive got it down to 6.9 i think.... i will have to find my previous post. ive found that in the manual doing 110, it sits just under 3000.... if your doing 130 though, its sitting at about 3300.... and uses a hell of a lot more petrol.


WooHoo!!! Just got back from a trip down to kingscliffe in northern nsw and did 930km on 65L!!!!!!!! :cool: mostly highway, all at the speed limit, and constantly telling myself, economically, drive economically... it was hard... believe me... thats like 6.9l/100k's :)

Belive it or not the test that is conducted for highway driving is at a limit of 70km/hr. i rang the number on a fuel consumption sticker from a new car and they sent me a booklet of all the new cars fuel consumptions. it also stated the testing conditions including this so called highway driving ...70km/hr for highways :nuts: must be sunday drivers testing them

Highway driving is quite different to freeway driving. On a highway you go through towns, roundabouts, traffics lights etc then you may get up to 100km/h for a while until the next town. So to be fair I think an average of 70km/h for highway driving is fair. Freeway driving is generally between 90 and 110km/h with nothing in the way.

Having said that, I think that they should probably step it up to about 90km/h because most people travel long distance on freeways these days.

Just my 2 cents worth!

Matt

My tripy tells me my average speed is 52.5km/h and average fuel consumption now at 9.7L/100km from my AWD. Beat that!

Btw that's with 91ron.

9.7!! :rant:
man here in brisbane i'm gettin 15.1 with the TH manual... and i aint heavy with the right foot......

What fuel are you guys using? I was using only Shell, mainly Optimax, and found we were getting around high 12's, low 13's for fuel.

I've now been using BP (not sure what it's called, it's a 95 RON rating) and it's sitting at 14.9 at the moment and has been around mid 13's - low 14's.

Do you guys think using a higher RON rating fuel for magna's help, or should I just stick to plain unleaded? I drive a 2002 VRX.

I'm thinking of switching to a smaller car if things keep going this way!! :(

9.7!! :rant:
man here in brisbane i'm gettin 15.1 with the TH manual... and i aint heavy with the right foot......

You don't live around Paddington, Bardon do you? That's a very hilly area.. all that revving up hills adds to fuel consumption. :) Even the mildest, slowest driver has to use more fuel in suburbs like that.

i just worked out my fuel consumption in my last tank of just straight optimax, i got 12.2L/100km. the previous consumption was something like just under 14L/100km but thats with about half tank of regular shell unleaded and about another half of mobil synergy 8000. i'll let you guys know if i get it any lower

Highway driving is quite different to freeway driving. On a highway you go through towns, roundabouts, traffics lights etc then you may get up to 100km/h for a while until the next town. So to be fair I think an average of 70km/h for highway driving is fair. Freeway driving is generally between 90 and 110km/h with nothing in the way.

Having said that, I think that they should probably step it up to about 90km/h because most people travel long distance on freeways these days.

Just my 2 cents worth!

Matt

i dont think it mentioned average 70km/hr.

My tripy tells me my average speed is 52.5km/h and average fuel consumption now at 9.7L/100km from my AWD. Beat that!

Btw that's with 91ron.Thats excellent for an AWD!

Thats excellent for an AWD!
I bettered my prev fuel econ best for my home trip - I got it down to 9.1L/100km this afternoon! I have a dream run with the lights and the air con on for about half the trip. It's no fun driving like this thou!lol

16L/100km here, carby, heavy foot, worn engine.

Hi all.

I am at the moment living in Central Queensland, in the middle of nowhere really,
and have been keeping an eye on fuel consumption in my TJ auto for quite a while
because I drive heaps of kilometres and fuel is a major cost for me.

"Best ever" is 7.6 l/100k. 100% open road, 100 kmh tops. Grandpa driving mode ON. Air
con off. Trying real hard to get best mileage, Vortex petrol, whether that helps I don't know, but the local servo has a reputation for less than ultra-clean "ordinary" unleaded so I avoid it.

That's the absolute best I've achieved. Driving around town destroys the economy quick smart. Up into the 11s and 12s, straight away.

More typical driving - sitting on say 105k, air con on (essential where I am) on the highway
I see low nines. On a cool day where I don't need the air con, it might get into the high eights, but only by consciously driving for economy. No accelerating up hills etc.

It surprises me that I am still unsure of the exact impact of having the air con on. It
doesn't seem to hurt fuel economy as much as I once would have thought...maybe .3 to .4 but without actually carefully measuring it I can't say. But its not a huge difference.

Last weekend I drove 1500k, all on good country roads, only the occasional town, towing
a box trailer with a lot of gear in it, plenty of stuff in the boot, air con on most of the time, sitting on 105 to 115, (in 110 limit areas), not driving for economy really but from habit I tend to drive that way in any case, and got 10.2.

The TJ has just clicked over 100,000k, and is maintained "by the book." I do use Helix
Ultra, and change it between service intervals myself, but that wouldn't make much, if any, difference to fuel consumption.

My many years of driving suggests to me that individual driving habits make a big difference in fuel consumption. Cruise up to red traffic lights rather than brake at the last moment, don't gas it up hills unneccessarily, anticipate the traffic, and save at the servo is my experience. After a while, that driving style becomes automatic.

The usual disclaimers apply. Your mileage may vary, as they say. None of the above
means that I don't enjoy putting my right foot down!

Old(ish) One.

yes old master i will take your advise on board, anyway i'll be going for a country drive on thursday, i'll let u guys know a bit more about my economy...atm i have dome 150km and it has gone down 2 notches on the guage..so thats about quarter of tank...btw this is a bull tank of optimax

My 3.5 auto wagon is driven mostly in the Melbourne CBD. According to the computer I am getting 15-16. This is constant stop start drving and of course I need to get from a to b in a hurry, mostly with the AC on.. The old TN 2.6efi auto was no better and it's AC didn't work.

On a trip we can get in down into high 8's.

I get 12.5l/100km driving in the suburbs and city with 2 people onboard most of the time. Haven't
taken her on a freeway/highway cruise yet to see what rate she drinks.

My many years of driving suggests to me that individual driving habits make a big difference in fuel consumption. Cruise up to red traffic lights rather than brake at the last moment, don't gas it up hills unneccessarily, anticipate the traffic, and save at the servo is my experience. After a while, that driving style becomes automatic.

A BLOODY MEN BROTHER

keep the rpm below 2500 and get to the speed limit very slowly is a sure way to save a good 5 dollars a week in my car, so more in a larger car. You can easily keep the car below 2500 and still floor it, but this negates any benifits obviously.. but some people still do it and because its not revving the motor they seem to think its economical.

With my 3.5l TH wagon at the moment Im getting about 9.8 with aircon on and normal driving. I live 50 km out of a town so its 100 all the way home and I use cruise the whole way.(except overtaking the trucks)

When I get into town it normally sits around 10.8 with aircon on.

We did a country drive a while back and got almost 700km out of a tank!!! It was down to the 8.7's with a tank of Ultimate !
(Mind you that was a 550 odd km journey with not many towns to pass thru on country roads so cruise was set on 110 most of way with aircon on and off)

Going to melb normally get 9.8 or so, sometimes lower, but as soon as I hit the city it jumps up to mid 11's/high 12's.
Springnats weekend here when we were out cruising it jumped up to almost 13's!!!

I expect bout 620km out of a tank of normal unleaded with my normal driving, bit less if we come to melbourne.(thats til dead empty!) Ive ran it almost dry once (was sitting on E and saying 600k had been done) and it took alot to fill back up!
Overall theyre not bad fuel economy at all :)

My TP wagon loves a good drink of fuel, only get about 500k/tank.

My 97 TF wagon averages 10-11L/100k. I drive about 70k's a day to work and back.

haha! No one is yet to beat my 6.9!!!!! OH, btw: that was at 100, no cruise, ac on, and head lights on :badgrin:


My last trip to bundy and back was only a 7.9. total of 840km from 67L. only about 650 was highway though, the rest was round town k's. lol


I love my car :D :dancin:

haha! No one is yet to beat my 6.9!!!!! OH, btw: that was at 100, no cruise, ac on, and head lights on :badgrin:


My last trip to bundy and back was only a 7.9. total of 840km from 67L. only about 650 was highway though, the rest was round town k's. lol


I love my car :D :dancin:

Hey have you decided to keep your car and not sell off?

Anyways, I know some say this is crap but I have tried using the Magnetic ionizer on the fuel lines. Improved at min 5% to 10% for fuel consumption. Friend let me try it on my Nissan Pulsar for free and it actually improved a bit.

worst figure ive had off a tank of fuel was 14.7L/100km.. now it generally sits on 11.8-12.2L/100km.. this is general day to day drive, to and from work, round town, little bit of highway stuff here and there.. which isnt toooo bad..

Dont notice much difference at all really between 91/95RON fuels.. i just get what ever.. (bloody petrol has gone back up to $1.259 for 91RON today :cry: ) so thats normally the cheapest.

best figure ive acheived was when mum drove it on a long trip (she refused to sit in the car with me doing 80 the whole way, so did I) and that was 9.4L/100km and that was with air cond on and no cruise (she hates it lol )

I find that cruise control is the best thing for lowering the cunsumption, and i use it everywhere, suburbs, town, country. Also slowly taking off and trying to let the auto shift at about 2500-3000RPM max also helps..

Hi all.

My best ever distance from a full tank was 820k in a TJ auto. Me, the missus, and the boot full of stuff. (Can't go anywhere without the wife packing gear for a month stay).

It was unintentional. Heading south from central Qld, towards Moree NSW. Late at night. I
thought there would be servos open between St. George and Moree.

Wrong!

Struth. The trip meter clocked down to 50k to go before empty, and then just flashed a dotted line. The fuel gauge dropped below E and I had at least 100k still to go to Moree.

I was in super economy mode.....sitting on 90, air con off. The missus asked how come I
am driving slower and I said "Not much petrol left, but we'll be right. I just want to make sure we will get to Moree easily." Yair, right. I was sweating it.

To my great surprise, we made it and I pulled in at the first servo. But it only took 66
litres. If memory serves me right, the capacity in TJ Execs is 70 litres? Perhaps I should
have kept going and looked for a servo with cheaper fuel!

But it must have been running on fumes by then.

On my car anyway, the fuel guage and the trip-meter show empty when there's still some petrol in the tank. But its no fun being a long way from anywhere, middle of the night, running on empty....a situation best avoided.

Old(ish) One.

Hey have you decided to keep your car and not sell off?

Anyways, I know some say this is crap but I have tried using the Magnetic ionizer on the fuel lines. Improved at min 5% to 10% for fuel consumption. Friend let me try it on my Nissan Pulsar for free and it actually improved a bit.


Nah, will be selling it probably around late march-april --- keep in mind people, the most economic 3.0l v6 magna will be available around april! :bowrofl: ( :cry: )

On my car anyway, the fuel guage and the trip-meter show empty when there's still some petrol in the tank.

Trip computers are theoretical, and quite often a good 100 km out. Their avg and inst fuel consumption readings are also rarely right. There is only 1 real way to measure fuel econemy.

i just went up to wodonga for the weekend, and did about 8.8 lites /100km.
in the city i normally do about 10-11.5litres /100km. :D

I really believe that 'fuel consumption claims' should be treated with the utmost caution. All other things been equal consumption will depend on the type of driving you do. I believe that there are basically four consumption baselines for 3.5 Magnas. I have achieved all of these at different times in my well tuned 3.5 Advance Auto depending on where and how I drive
Modes
No 1. Intercity cruising using small throttle openings range from 7.8 to 9 l/100k
No 2. Urban stop/start and freeway travel range from 11 to 13 l/100k
No 3. Stop/Start Urban crawl, kids to school, mum waiting in line to pick up kids, mum doing local shopping range 14.5 to 16.5 l/100k. I live in Sydney
No 4. Same as no 3 but young lead foot driver range 16 to 18 l/100k

My car has an average speed of 28 k/h per week. My car mainly operates in Mode No 3. Look at the average speed for a weeks driving and generally the lower it is the more fuel you will use.

Spot on with everything you said
I reckon you have summed up fuel consumption perfectly for 3.5l magnas. Nothing more to be said.....people should use your 4 options as the "official" guide for fuel consumption. Good work

Yep Im in 3-4 most of the time. Average speed 32km/h but the lack of km's travelled makes up for it. A tank (50l) will last 2 weeks. If in town it can go up to 18l. Open road more like 10l.



I really believe that 'fuel consumption claims' should be treated with the utmost caution. All other things been equal consumption will depend on the type of driving you do. I believe that there are basically four consumption baselines for 3.5 Magnas. I have achieved all of these at different times in my well tuned 3.5 Advance Auto depending on where and how I drive
Modes
No 1. Intercity cruising using small throttle openings range from 7.8 to 9 l/100k
No 2. Urban stop/start and freeway travel range from 11 to 13 l/100k
No 3. Stop/Start Urban crawl, kids to school, mum waiting in line to pick up kids, mum doing local shopping range 14.5 to 16.5 l/100k. I live in Sydney
No 4. Same as no 3 but young lead foot driver range 16 to 18 l/100k

My car has an average speed of 28 k/h per week. My car mainly operates in Mode No 3. Look at the average speed for a weeks driving and generally the lower it is the more fuel you will use.

I've had my magna (3.5 TJ2, auto wagon) for around three weeks now and can't get as good economy as the HDT VT Calais, either on a trip or around town (albeit a regional town!). I live on the mid nth coast of NSW, baught the car whilst on holidays in Melbourne, so I've tested it (and YES, I tested it the old fashioned way..... at the bowser, doing the math!)
Economy is only slightly worse, but you'd think a 3.5 would be able to drink the same or less than a modified 5.0?
Overall, extremely happy with my new "family wagon". It's got just about everything (except climate control....the wife doesn't like it too cold!) the calais had, plus I can fit the baby stuff in now!

I've had my magna (3.5 TJ2, auto wagon) for around three weeks now and can't get as good economy as the HDT VT Calais, either on a trip or around town (albeit a regional town!). I live on the mid nth coast of NSW, baught the car whilst on holidays in Melbourne, so I've tested it (and YES, I tested it the old fashioned way..... at the bowser, doing the math!)
Economy is only slightly worse, but you'd think a 3.5 would be able to drink the same or less than a modified 5.0?
Overall, extremely happy with my new "family wagon". It's got just about everything (except climate control....the wife doesn't like it too cold!) the calais had, plus I can fit the baby stuff in now!
Its a wagon which weighs more than a sedan of the same model and has ****e aerodynamics.

Thanks for the positve feedback JMW2207. I hope that this 4 mode model shows people that you can get anything between 8 to 18 l/100 K and still feel OK about your car's fuel use performance.

i got 9.4L/100km in my last tank of optimax...but its did about 300km of country drive to (Kyneton, VIC) @ 100km/h as well as a bit of 110km/h then the next 240km was in suburban driving...my best consumption yet..i wonder how far i can drag it down..i'm now on a tank of Mobil regular unleaded...and running the air con..its too bloody hot these days...

Just did a trip back from victoria to adelaide(today) with me the missus two kids and a boot full of our stuff in my sports tippy averaged 9.0 l/100ks mostly highway driving got 737kms from the tank and still had about 5L left in the tank.Had some bad weather to begin with (inst fuel cons was showing 16l/100k in the ****ty weather) but still a good result i thought,was sitting on the speed limit all the way except for the odd squirt when overtaking.On the way there I averaged 9.2l/100 but on the way back I pumped the tires up to 32psi all round. :D

Went to Stansbury and back with four people on board plus fishing gear and food and drinks.
Round trip was over 400km and averaged 10l/100km. That was also with half a dozen hard
acceleration during overtaking and taking off at intersections. Average speed according to the
trip computer is still only 38km/hr.

Just did a trip back from victoria to adelaide(today) with me the missus two kids and a boot full of our stuff in my sports tippy averaged 9.0 l/100ks mostly highway driving got 737kms from the tank and still had about 5L left in the tank.Had some bad weather to begin with (inst fuel cons was showing 16l/100k in the ****ty weather) but still a good result i thought,was sitting on the speed limit all the way except for the odd squirt when overtaking.On the way there I averaged 9.2l/100 but on the way back I pumped the tires up to 32psi all round. :D

pumped them up to 32... My god what were they on? :shock:

pumped them up to 32... My god what were they on? :shock:
I have stock sports wheels/tyres and by the tyre placard they should be front 29-35 rear 26-35 they were on 31 front and 29 rear on the way there! ;)

I have stock sports wheels/tyres and by the tyre placard they should be front 29-35 rear 26-35 they were on 31 front and 29 rear on the way there! ;)

Yeah, that will make the ride comfortable as the tyres go squish squish everytime you hit a bump, but i thought that family car tyres should be at 34-36 all the time... :confused:

Yeah, that will make the ride comfortable as the tyres go squish squish everytime you hit a bump, but i thought that family car tyres should be at 34-36 all the time... :confused:
Yup 35 is with full load, even at 32 all round you could feel every bump in the road but i didnt realise max was 35 I thought it was 32 will have to try it next long trip. :)

I just spent the long weekend down at Nelson on the VIC/SA border on the coast. Did just over 1000k's round trip. Took the KJ AWD and used cruise control the whole way there and back sitting on 100k's. The boot was fairly full but nothing to heavy in there. Just the two of us and bubs. The AWD averaged exactly on 10l/100k's there and back cruising the whole time on FWY. Best i saw it was 9.8 but was usually on 10. Is fairly heavy on juce as i have done the same trip in the KH wagon and averaged 8.7 there and back.

You're worried about fuel economy when you have that pressure in your tyres? Put 40 in the front and 36 in the back and rotate your tyres every 10k kms, you could seriously get another 15k kms out of each tyre.

I just did a 380km highway run from Sydney to Port Macquarie, including some city driving and managed to get fuel economy in the low 8's according to trip computer, but it always over estimates. Around town I can't manage much better than 12 or 13ish in a manual Magna or auto Commodore, and Dad can't do any better and he drives slower than any granny you know of.

My 2c ;)

Two years ago,i driven to NT and back to brisbane.In nt,I got 35 mpg(8lt/100km) doing 120km per hour.Not too bad for a stationwagan!But the car is not good on fuel now :rant:
To and from work is 25mpg(12lt/100).My engine is the 2.6.

You're worried about fuel economy when you have that pressure in your tyres? Put 40 in the front and 36 in the back and rotate your tyres every 10k kms, you could seriously get another 15k kms out of each tyre.

I just did a 380km highway run from Sydney to Port Macquarie, including some city driving and managed to get fuel economy in the low 8's according to trip computer, but it always over estimates. Around town I can't manage much better than 12 or 13ish in a manual Magna or auto Commodore, and Dad can't do any better and he drives slower than any granny you know of.

My 2c ;)
I take it you was referring to me?I am not worried about my fuel economy just stating what I got on a long trip.

Hey all, looking through my car manual I see the tank capacity of my TL VRX is 71 litres. How is it that I let my fuel guage get right down to below the lowest level it can possibly go (i.e doesn't even move), filled up the tank right to the top and I only got 59 litres into it. I am only getting around 400 Kms to a tank as well. Do you think I have a fuel problem? has anyone else had a similar problem with this series?

Cheers

Hey all, looking through my car manual I see the tank capacity of my TL VRX is 71 litres. How is it that I let my fuel guage get right down to below the lowest level it can possibly go (i.e doesn't even move), filled up the tank right to the top and I only got 59 litres into it. I am only getting around 400 Kms to a tank as well. Do you think I have a fuel problem? has anyone else had a similar problem with this series?

Cheersremember city driving you will use more fuel i get 600 out of my tank thats with half city half freeway

yea I know but it just seems that I am not getting much KM's out of a full tank. My average consumption is, according to the trip computer, 12.5l/100km, going by that I should get more out of a 71L tank than I already do. I can be heavy footed some times but most times I try and take it easy.

yea I know but it just seems that I am not getting much KM's out of a full tank. My average consumption is, according to the trip computer, 12.5l/100km, going by that I should get more out of a 71L tank than I already do. I can be heavy footed some times but most times I try and take it easy.
Your tank holds more than you think once your fuel light comes on and it hits empty on our way back from melb what i did was filled my tank up to the top of the petrol filler knowing it was a 71L tank I drove it down until the light came on and changed the trip computer to show how much fuel was used and there was about 59-60L used knowing this i kept on driving till i got to 66.7L used and got fuel, If I was going by the gauge i would have not driven nowhere near as far as i did ,the needle stopped moving way before I stopped to get fuel.Maybe mitsi have done this on purpose because it is supposed to be not good to let your fuel run that low cause they reckon all the crap from your tank goes through your fuel system.And around town your fuel consumption is pretty close to what we get depending on how you drive it. :D

Cheers for that sLug.

No problems!! ;)

9.2L/100km, mostly country driving and some city driving to get home and work and back out again... shell regular

i own a th exec man 3.5ltr and in the city i get 13.1 approx on the open road i get 9.0 approx

I refilled last night after getting 732.3km out of $70 normal unleaded gas (approx 67 litres). Trip showed average comsumption of 8.5L/100km.

This was a mixture of 40% freeway and 60% suburban/city driving at the speed limits where possible. Driving back and forth from Gosford to North Sydney.

The air con was on the whole time as I never turn it off.

I refilled last night after getting 732.3km out of $70 normal unleaded gas (approx 67 litres). Trip showed average comsumption of 8.5L/100km.

This was a mixture of 40% freeway and 60% suburban/city driving at the speed limits where possible. Driving back and forth from Gosford to North Sydney.

The air con was on the whole time as I never turn it off.
what petrol is that you using getting that many kms

I use Mobil normal unleaded and the car is stock mechanically. The refill previous to the one I mentioned netted me 691km out of $70. Mind you the fuel was a tad more expensive that time and whilst I could have kept going, the trip had just turned to the - - - reading, so I didn't want to get stranded lol .

I don't drive constantly aware of saving fuel but I do a few things. Whether they make much difference overall I'm unsure:

- shift into neutral if at lights or slow moving/standstill traffic
- accelerate smoothy but still keep with traffic
- ensure my tyres are at correct psi
- have all windows wound up on the freeway to reduce drag. Having air con on all the time probably offsets that benefit anyway :confused:
- brake smoothy
- if approaching a long hill on the freeway, I manual shift to 3rd instead of applying gas to kickdown and saves hunting. This way, I can keep the accelerator in the same postion, but still maintain my speed.
- If I'm going down a hill, I take my foot of the accelerator and coast.
- I also don't carry any passengers so I guess that would help too.

Well I had my TJ II Sports for almost a week now.

Reset the computer when I picked it up and the avg fuel consumption has leveled out to 12.9 for the last few days. Using Caltex unleaded, normal peak hour driving in Canberra, and the occational squirt that comes with testing out your new car lol

I'll be happy if I can maintain this figure, generally the car has 3-5 people and baby gear in the boot.

Your tank holds more than you think once your fuel light comes on and it hits empty on our way back from melb what i did was filled my tank up to the top of the petrol filler knowing it was a 71L tank I drove it down until the light came on and changed the trip computer to show how much fuel was used and there was about 59-60L used knowing this i kept on driving till i got to 66.7L used and got fuel, If I was going by the gauge i would have not driven nowhere near as far as i did ,the needle stopped moving way before I stopped to get fuel.Maybe mitsi have done this on purpose because it is supposed to be not good to let your fuel run that low cause they reckon all the crap from your tank goes through your fuel system.And around town your fuel consumption is pretty close to what we get depending on how you drive it. :D

yeah my mate once got nearly 100K's with the fuel light on!! the only thing you have to worry about when it gets that low is the crap in the bottom of the tank, and you can starve for fuel when cornering at a moderate speed

when i changed my from my TH smoker styl CAI back to standard my fuel cnsumption went from mid 10's ---> mid to high 12s but after a week it seemed to go back to normal was weird

when i changed my from my TH smoker styl CAI back to standard my fuel cnsumption went from mid 10's ---> mid to high 12s but after a week it seemed to go back to normal was weird
i get fluctuations like that when i change brands then it goes back to normal in the next tank. except my lowest i think is 9.2L/100km and highest was something in the teens, go check in this thread, its somewhere in there

I have a TH Advance sedan with an auto that has seen virtually all country kilometres, and at the moment travelling from Melbourne to Geelong it AVERAGES 8.1 litres per 100 kms. This is fairly typical on a trip, as I regularly used to travel from Gippsland to Melbourne with the same figure showing on the reasonably accurate trip computer.

Added to this, I have seen brief spells (the longest being 150 kms) where the figure has been under 6.6 litres per 100 kilometres. Provided that I do not do much city driving, I now rely on achieving at least 700 kilometres to a tank of regular unleaded. By the way, I normally sit with the cruise (always use it) set at an indicated 5 kmp/h over what ever the speed limit is at that point.

I have a TH Advance sedan with an auto that has seen virtually all country kilometres, and at the moment travelling from Melbourne to Geelong it AVERAGES 8.1 litres per 100 kms. This is fairly typical on a trip, as I regularly used to travel from Gippsland to Melbourne with the same figure showing on the reasonably accurate trip computer.

Added to this, I have seen brief spells (the longest being 150 kms) where the figure has been under 6.6 litres per 100 kilometres. Provided that I do not do much city driving, I now rely on achieving at least 700 kilometres to a tank of regular unleaded. By the way, I normally sit with the cruise (always use it) set at an indicated 5 kmp/h over what ever the speed limit is at that point.under 6.6L/100km?? would never thought someone could better the factory specs. i drive on cruise control in the country...i would probably get about 8.something L/100km if i never enter into start stop traffic on my way home...

I dont have a trip computer so i've been working it out by litres used to how many K's i've done and i normally get about 12.4. The best i've had is 11.8 and thats mostly driving in peak hour traffic.

Its the peak hour stop start that kills the consumption. On my TJ I get 12-14 around town but in high summer with the air con on flat out and traffic jams everywhere I remember seeing 20L/100 as an average at one stage this year!

Im not sure if anyone has already mentioned this - i havnt read the whole thread, but another factor in considering fuel consumption is how often is the car left long enough for the choke to want to come on? - if you frequently leave your car for say only 3-4 hours, 2 or 3 times a day for example - you will get more choke usage = more fuel comsumption

another thing, is the contour of the roads your travelling on - ill give an example here.....I live in tassie, and i can drive from where i live to a towm Deloriane, with a fuel ave. of 9.2...in a KJ Verada wagon....but to travel from my place to Launceston, it will use 10.5 - 11.0......all because there is more uphill to launnie than it is to deloraine...combine alot of choke usage and a few extra little hills...and what those numbers rise!

my 2c worth..

i found out that if u use shell or mobil u tend to get better fuel consumption even with 91 octane of corse u will get even better consumption wen u run premium.
i found out if u use the wollies fuel or simular brands ur usage is quite high i havent used bp in it so i dnt know how well it is.

i found out that if u use shell or mobil u tend to get better fuel consumption even with 91 octane of corse u will get even better consumption wen u run premium.
i found out if u use the wollies fuel or simular brands ur usage is quite high i havent used bp in it so i dnt know how well it is.
funny thing that...i have been using shell and mopbil only so far...but i have filled in 3/4 of a tank of BP regular the other half i think was mobil or might have been shell (can'tremember), so i'll see how it all goes...

i found out that if u use shell or mobil u tend to get better fuel consumption even with 91 octane of corse u will get even better consumption wen u run premium.
i found out if u use the wollies fuel or simular brands ur usage is quite high i havent used bp in it so i dnt know how well it is.



I wouldn't think you would get better fuel consumption with higher octane fuel eg bp ultimate cause the 3.5l motors are only 9:1 comp. ratio.

My last two fill ups have only resulted in ~400k's per tank too.

However, I've been stuck in ****house traffic jams to & from work lately - which is constant stop & starting. (eg: 30 odd mins down Stanley St :(). Then TLGP'ing it if i got a red light so I get away from the traffic. There's just so much more pull having Extractors too - awww yeah :D Of course being Summer I've been driving with aircon on pretty much constantly now.

Average speed was a piss weak 32k/hr too. It was saying 14.5 avg at one stage too. *sigh* I remember when I was able to get 550+ from a tank.

ive just purchased a 3.0 manual TE whicl ill be investigating the fuel consumption carefully, taking into consideration automatic transmissions and the larger 3.5l engine i will research different RON's over the next 2 months or so and offer an evaluation. then ill be testing out something i been looking into for some time which will further increase economy. i wish to do my tests 1st and get an idea of the economy rating of the 3.0 magna 1st before going any further with my intentions...

ill keep you guys posted, and i believe it will be well worth the wait.

Hi All.

Yesterday I drove 1470k in my 2001 TJ Exec Auto.

The car just had a major service done during the week- cam belt, all spark plugs,
plus the usual filters and fluids all changed. ($830, not bad). They didn't touch
the transmission - I get it serviced separately every 20k, using Mitsubishi ATF.
On the last service they used Dextron 3 they said, and the tranny was shuddering occasionally at 60 to 65kph. I dumped the junk Dextron myself and put Mitsu ATF
in...problem solved.

I use Helix Ultra engine oil, and any brand of Premium unleaded.

I put air in the tyres at 4am yesterday (36psi front, 34psi rear) and off I went.
For the first few hours, the trip computer showed an average of 8.2. That was
sitting on 100 to 105k. Air con on after 10am. Now I was further from civilization
(read, Highway Patrol), I bumped up the speed to 110-115. One stretch, I gassed
it to 160kph for half an hour. I wasn't driving for economy.

When I finally got to my destination, right on sunset, the trip computer showed
8.5 average fuel consumption.

That's gotta be good for a car of this size. It ran really smooth. Wildlife was
limited to one near-miss kangaroo. Stupid animals they are......The's why I have
a nudge bar with driving lights. It makes it a lot less tiring at night to clearly
see what you are about to hit......

Just me in the car, but the boot had around 100kg of stuff in it.

The Magna was "the wife's car" but its mine now!! She will have to get another
one. VRX.....Ralliart....hmmmm.

Regards,

Old One.