Howdy folks..

Christmas has come and gone, and i have managed to save up some money for some new tyres.

After putting cheap, crappy "temporary" tyres on the front of the ralliart and having 2 of the standard pirelli P6000's on the back and being fed up with the rubbish on the front (Nexen N3000's) it is time for me to buy a new set..

so what i am asking is what tyres are other ralliart owners (and people with 225/50R17's) rolling round on and what they think of them..

particularly interested in peoples opinions on the Bridgestone Grid II's that came on the series 2 VRX's and the GTV Veradas.. what do you guys think of these tyres??.. anyone got the Grid III's??

I have been quoted $225 each for the bridgestones (grid II) which is pretty good i thought.. but does anyone know what the maximum pressure is that they can hold (ie. 51psi : normally printed on tyre wall, but not on the Grid II's)

Goodyear Eagle F1's have also been highly recommended to me and am getting a price on them tomorrow..

so any other brands that are being used / pros and cons / maximum pressure info / pressure you use / quiet or noisy etc etc

expecting to pay ~$1000 on tyres and dont want to be disappointed by ending up with noisy, crap tyres.. any help will be greatly appreciated

Cheers,
Ben

as i said to you on msn, the F1 GS-D3's were reccomended to me VERY highly, and before that was using the Dunlop Lemans, which suck the ass in a straight line, but for cornering their lateral grip is awesome

also got fairly good mileage out of them (25,000 driving like a nutter)

good luck ben

Howdy folks..

Christmas has come and gone, and i have managed to save up some money for some new tyres.

After putting cheap, crappy "temporary" tyres on the front of the ralliart and having 2 of the standard pirelli P6000's on the back and being fed up with the rubbish on the front (Nexen N3000's) it is time for me to buy a new set..

so what i am asking is what tyres are other ralliart owners (and people with 225/50R17's) rolling round on and what they think of them..

particularly interested in peoples opinions on the Bridgestone Grid II's that came on the series 2 VRX's and the GTV Veradas.. what do you guys think of these tyres??.. anyone got the Grid III's??

I have been quoted $225 each for the bridgestones (grid II) which is pretty good i thought.. but does anyone know what the maximum pressure is that they can hold (ie. 51psi : normally printed on tyre wall, but not on the Grid II's)

Goodyear Eagle F1's have also been highly recommended to me and am getting a price on them tomorrow..

so any other brands that are being used / pros and cons / maximum pressure info / pressure you use / quiet or noisy etc etc

expecting to pay ~$1000 on tyres and dont want to be disappointed by ending up with noisy, crap tyres.. any help will be greatly appreciated

Cheers,
Ben
Grid (I, II, III) suck..

Eagle F1's for performance with a nice price tag.

some 1 else asked the very same q not long ago , l have the grid lll and for the price of them l believe there has to be better tyres for this sort of money and l think a quick search will find at least a couple of of breeds that are better.

the 2 pirellis they got any tread leaft?

Grid IIs

Done nearly 45000ks on them (Rotate front to rear at 25000Ks) nearly worn out now tho.

Great handling, good wear but noisier than I would prefer.

Interested to hear peoples experience with other brands.

Cheers

MAXXIS MZ-V1, a great tire, unbelivable grip in the wet and dry and about $250 a tire

the 2 pirellis they got any tread leaft?

only done 27,000ks

']also got fairly good mileage out of them (25,000 driving like a nutter)

:shock: arent tyres supposed to last longer than that?? :shock:

F1 GS-D3's they are quite fantastic. They telegraph their loss of grip so clearly you can drive far better and more safely at speed. They never just let go, they are quiet and give a better a good ride. Also for 235/45/17 they seem to be quite a bit larger than competitors.

just been into beaurepairs... Eagle F1 GS-D3's are $280 each.. ($1120 for set of 4, fitted and balanced) so i bit the bullet and got them to order 'em in..

gotta go in late next week to book it in to get them fitted.. probably monday week..

THESE BETTER BE GOOD!! :rant:

probably too late now but Falken Azenis ST115 could be an alternative. Heard good things about them. ~$240 each I recall.

congrats on the purchase

THESE BETTER BE GOOD!! :rant:
Trust me, you will never go back. If my budget will allow i will be putting these tyres on my 19's in February.

The only tyre that has been rated better is the Michelin Pilot Sports @ around $500 each for 17's.. ($700 - $800 for 19's)

Pirelli are such an overrated tyre (especially for their price)

only done 27,000ks

u interested in selling the pirellis? :)

You really need to read what the mags say, everyone gets defensive over their tyre brand of choice.

That said, Bridgestone Pntenza G3s or S03s get my pick :badgrin:

In the latest issue of Car & Driver in the US they tested 11 high performance tyres. The best tyre was the Goodyear Eagle F1.
Have a look at this link;
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=4&article_id=10252

All the best for 2006 to everyone!!

just been into beaurepairs... Eagle F1 GS-D3's are $280 each.. ($1120 for set of 4, fitted and balanced) so i bit the bullet and got them to order 'em in..

gotta go in late next week to book it in to get them fitted.. probably monday week..

THESE BETTER BE GOOD!! :rant:

Good work. I have had them for over 12 mths now and are very happy with them. You gain a lot of confidence when driving in the wet with these buggers. They are a great tyre.

I've been recommended to the Eagle F1 G3's as well. Apparently the Bridgestone Grid series arn't all that up for shape, but the SO-3's are great, but don't come in the load rating we need for our cars, unless you plan on running wide rubber tyres which I don't recommend.

When I did a research a couple of months ago, the G3's are practically the best wet weather tyre in the world. Actually the Dec Motor mag had several comparisions, the G3's came at the top for wet weather driving, but not the best for dry performance driving use, but mind you, almost all the tyres in that >$250 performance tyre range (in 17" size) are that much better than your average OEM tyres.


I've been saving up for these G3's (sucessfully achieved), and now I need to find some suitable, affordable rims to fit these rubber on, hopefully I'll find something soon. I'm hoping the tyres will last at least 25,000k's, so I'm targeting (and budgeting now) a set of new tyres every 10 months.

nankangs are also the bomb, for what u pay for them.

but probably not compared to the eagles and what not
but i would def reccoment looking at nankangs at some stage they will be my next tyre choice

i know u made ur decision already so its too late to say i use federal had it for a yr now and still look brand new not much sign of wear from all our cruises here in qld. that its been through :cool:

u interested in selling the pirellis? :)

certainly would be.. i will be putting these in a thread in the F.S. section once i get my new tyres on..

so i will have:

2 x Pirelli P6000 225/50ZR17 94V

and

2 x Nexen N3000 225/50R17 94V

if anyone is interested, you can PM me or add me to MSN.. dunno what kind of price to expect, very little infact, but bare in mind that im in tassy and postage would be at your own cost and arrangement..

thanks for the comments everyone, by the sounds of things i should be impressed with the tyres..

the pirellis how much tread? 27000ks soft compond hard to tell.

the pirellis how much tread? 27000ks soft compond hard to tell.

id say they are still pretty good.. although i havent seen these tyres new, i would be guessing and saying that they have a good 65% left on them.. ill go take a photo..

ohh, btw, they have been on the back wheels up until now, only just put them on the front to get the ****ty nexens off there..

photo.. actually more like ~50% tread.. i dunno..

if your interested, PM me

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4953/s0016si.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Howdy folks..

particularly interested in peoples opinions on the Bridgestone Grid II's that came on the series 2 VRX's and the GTV Veradas.. what do you guys think of these tyres??.. anyone got the Grid III's??

I have been quoted $225 each for the bridgestones (grid II) which is pretty good i thought.. but does anyone know what the maximum pressure is that they can hold (ie. 51psi : normally printed on tyre wall, but not on the Grid II's)

Cheers,
Ben

I had 235/45 17" Bridgestone grid II on my TH and rotated every 5000kms and got 70000km out of them at 39psi. i am very particular about looking after tyres. I put Grid III's on them and have so far got close to 50000kms(ex's car now).....will not go another 20000kms though. i liked the Grid II's better in the wet personally. i would go with grid II's. not a bad price too.

Bridgestone Grid II's are what I have on VRX-II rims - very nice I think - good grip, wear well (and good grip even when nearly bald) and quiet - not sure what the maximum pressure is...

I am looking to get new ones too!

Grid (I, II, III) suck..

Eagle F1's for performance with a nice price tag.

Well it's time for my ralliart to get new shoes and I was looking at the Bridgestone GIII until I heard about the Eagle F1's and a few go on about them. What size has people got them in because I can't find 225/50 17 on their website.

I have also heard that the BS GIII are a great tyre and the Eagle F1 are a bit loud, do people who have them think this.

So as people have said on this it is a personal choose and the tyre dealer recommended these out of 5 different brands of that size tyre

If anyone is running on BS GIII I would like to hear your opinion of them also, if anyones knows what kind of K's can you get out of them

Hankook k104's

best tyres ive used.



incredible in the wet, quiet in the dry, last a long time !
very well priced also

got the Goodyear Eagle F1 DG-G3's in 225/50R17 put on last friday.. very very impressed.. fairly quite on dry roads, although on very course chip roads that make a little rumble, which is expected. Rained heavily today.. and they have awesome traction in the wet.. stick like **** to a babies blanket..

best tyre ive ever had.. thanks for the recommendations guys..

Good to see they worked well for you.

Well it's time for my ralliart to get new shoes and I was looking at the Bridgestone GIII until I heard about the Eagle F1's and a few go on about them. What size has people got them in because I can't find 225/50 17 on their website.

I have also heard that the BS GIII are a great tyre and the Eagle F1 are a bit loud, do people who have them think this.

So as people have said on this it is a personal choose and the tyre dealer recommended these out of 5 different brands of that size tyre

If anyone is running on BS GIII I would like to hear your opinion of them also, if anyones knows what kind of K's can you get out of them

like i posted earlier.....grid III's currently on TH(ex's)done around 50000 with probably another 5000 or so in them.....rotate regularly(obviously front to rear only)get balance checked regularly as well wheel alignments yearly. i ran 39psi. they can last a long time if you take care of 'em. and yes a very quiet tyre.

i have some kumho ecsta asx tires and been having them for a couple of months. i live in the TX and they are Great for all season. they are really quite and give you a smooth ride compared to the others that i have previously had

i have some kumho ecsta asx tires and been having them for a couple of months. i live in the TX and they are Great for all season. they are really quite and give you a smooth ride compared to the others that i have previously had


aah, the home of the Rockets!

welcome! start up a new thread in this section introducing urself, and post some pics of ur car!

and welcome again mate!

Have just read this thread, 1100 bucks for new tyres doesnt turn me on, has anyone found any budget tyres that are at least quiet. I dont do high speeds etc as I am old.

I need them for a Verada GTV, currently has 17 x 7.0-inch alloys wearing 225/50 Bridgestone Grid II tyres. I want low profiles still...

Have just read this thread, 1100 bucks for new tyres doesnt turn me on, has anyone found any budget tyres that are at least quiet. I dont do high speeds etc as I am old.

I need them for a Verada GTV, currently has 17 x 7.0-inch alloys wearing 225/50 Bridgestone Grid II tyres. I want low profiles still...

i was nearly going to get grid 2's and they were $900 for 4 ($225 each on special) and to be honest.. there isnt a great deal out there in 225/50R17 that are cheap let alone cheap and quiet..

if you're happy with the grid 2's, id suggest getting them again because they were probably the cheapest ones i could find..

i was nearly going to get grid 2's and they were $900 for 4 ($225 each on special) and to be honest.. there isnt a great deal out there in 225/50R17 that are cheap let alone cheap and quiet..

if you're happy with the grid 2's, id suggest getting them again because they were probably the cheapest ones i could find..
Dunno what its like down Tassie way :P, but up here there is heaps of 235/45/R17's under the $200 mark, although not heaps that are 94+ load rating, but still quite a few...


Have just read this thread, 1100 bucks for new tyres doesnt turn me on, has anyone found any budget tyres that are at least quiet. I dont do high speeds etc as I am old.

I need them for a Verada GTV, currently has 17 x 7.0-inch alloys wearing 225/50 Bridgestone Grid II tyres. I want low profiles still...

I recently got some Simex 235/45/R17's that cost $160 each and are A LOT quieter than my previous Hankooks ($140 odd). Grippier in the wet as well. I'm happy with them :)

I think the cheaper tyres just won't last as long. My 17s have been wearing cheap rubber their whole lives and average about 30 000kms per tyre :)

MAXXIS MZ-V1, a great tire, unbelivable grip in the wet and dry and about $250 a tire

AGREED BLOODY 100% GRIP INTHE WET and amazing grip all round won wheels sports tyre of the year, I had falkens and i thought i had to get new suspension and i found out the tyres were craP and wogs recommened MAXXIS MZ-V1 and they are wicked.

got the Goodyear Eagle F1 DG-G3's in 225/50R17 put on last friday.. very very impressed.. fairly quite on dry roads, although on very course chip roads that make a little rumble, which is expected. Rained heavily today.. and they have awesome traction in the wet.. stick like **** to a babies blanket..

best tyre ive ever had.. thanks for the recommendations guys..


If your going to spend $225.00 you mayswell go all out and spend $285ea and buy the best I have used and I do competitions with these !
I started off with $180.00 tyres and have worked up to Hankook Ventus RS2 235x45x17 ZR 94Y

by far out do all the dunlop goodyear and alike !

Nic
WA

If your going to spend $225.00 you mayswell go all out and spend $285ea and buy the best I have used and I do competitions with these !
I started off with $180.00 tyres and have worked up to Hankook Ventus RS2 235x45x17 ZR 94Y

by far out do all the dunlop goodyear and alike !

Nic
WA

i did go all out and spent $280 a tyre.. got good year eagle F1 DS-G3's.. awesome tyre..

thing is though.. magnas that came out with 17" rims as standard had 225/50R17 rubber on them and thats the only type of tyres you can replace them with without running the risk of being defected..

235/45R17's are waaaay cheaper and there are ****loads more to choose from, only thing is, they arent legal on VR-X's, GTV Veradas or Ralliarts.. its stupid

i did go all out and spent $280 a tyre.. got good year eagle F1 DS-G3's.. awesome tyre..
thing is though.. magnas that came out with 17" rims as standard had 225/50R17 rubber on them and thats the only type of tyres you can replace them with without running the risk of being defected..
235/45R17's are waaaay cheaper and there are ****loads more to choose from, only thing is, they arent legal on VR-X's, GTV Veradas or Ralliarts.. its stupid

Hey !
Your info cant be correct !!

The load rating is Y94 and thats what the cops really look at aswell as the width and 235x17 is only 10mm wider than the 225x17 which falls within the trafic specs variation from standard and most of the 225x17"s dont have a high enough load rating for the magna so I would like to see some evidence before Id be posting what you said as gospel !

Nic
WA

make sure you get the correct load rating for the car, the minimun is 95. The first set of tires BJ put on my car were 94 and the car felt ****, they sibsequantly put on a set of 97 load rated tires and it's a whole different ball game.

As for tire size i went form a 15" rim to a 17" rim and a 235 tire. I do however had a 7.5 wide rim. so not sure how that all works. I know my insurance will only let me go 2" over stock rims.

I stongly recomend the Maxxis tires. they Rock

Hey !
Your info cant be correct !!

The load rating is Y94 and thats what the cops really look at aswell as the width and 235x17 is only 10mm wider than the 225x17 which falls within the trafic specs variation from standard and most of the 225x17"s dont have a high enough load rating for the magna so I would like to see some evidence before Id be posting what you said as gospel !

Nic
WA


You want proof?
Here you go:
http://www.goodyear.com.au/showtyregy2004.php?tyre=0000000156263
http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/products/car/treads/gridII.asp (OEM VR-X tyres)
http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/products/car/treads/gIII.asp


By the way, for a direct replacement on the standard 17" magna wheels, the rubber used is 225/50's.


To the person who said having a load rating of 94 is marginally (or a lot more) worse than a load rating of 95, well thats utterly crap, the load rating does not define ride quality or stability. It's more probably because you changed the brand, or series of tyres, maybe even a difference in tyre size?

By the way, TH models and above (maybe pre TH-models too, but I don't know) have a load rating of 94 on the plycard.

actually load rating does define a lot about the tire, a higer load rated tire has a lot stiffer sidewals hence less flex, hence less roll, i had the same Maxxis MA-V1 in a 94 and now in a 97 and it's a different car, so don't kid yourself.

IT IS ILEGAL to dirve a car on incorrect load rated tires, don't belive me as your local cops, it is also an issurance problem.

I was basing the minimum of 95 for a TL, i think it was 96 for another 3 get not sure if it was th of tj

Im using Goodyear eagle, 235/45/R17 and work a treat, not the best but by far better than Silverstone or Nexen ****.
Costed me around $120 a tyre at the tyre factory, and have really good tread. Slightly noisy on concrete :)

actually load rating does define a lot about the tire, a higer load rated tire has a lot stiffer sidewals hence less flex, hence less roll, i had the same Maxxis MA-V1 in a 94 and now in a 97 and it's a different car, so don't kid yourself.

IT IS ILEGAL to dirve a car on incorrect load rated tires, don't belive me as your local cops, it is also an issurance problem.

I was basing the minimum of 95 for a TL, i think it was 96 for another 3 get not sure if it was th of tj

Umm, generally when a tyre maker makes a certain series of tyres, say the MA-V1 for instance, they don't change the tyre compound to allow differences in load ratings in the same size. The load rating is altered by changing the tyre's dimensions.

I had a look at the Maxxis tyre site quickly, and unless they are not posting up their complete tyre range, what I said above is true. If you did have a 97 load rated MA-V1 tyre, then the size according from their site is, 225/55R17 97V. And for the 94 load rated MA-V1 tyre, then the size must have been 255/40R17 94V.

And yes, TL Models which came standard with 15" or 16" wheels come with 95 load rating tyres, whilst the VRX with its 17" wheels come standard with 94 load rating tyres. But most likely you will find on a TL plycard that the required load rating is 94.

oh well i'll have to look into that. But form what i understoof the tire compound did not change but the stiffness of the sidewall. Anyway theya re a great tire. On the placesard for the TL on tires it says 85, hech i didn't have to pay for them so it's all good.

spoke to local tyre place, they were really cheap but said that legally I could put 235 / 45 on the car, said they were a bit wider but a lot cheaper as they were standard on fords and holdens.

quoted me $217 for the F1s, but recommended the Dunlop 3000A as they can be fully rotated where the F1s are directional, quoted me $208

Thoughts?

My Parents XR6 Turbo came with Dunlop SP3000A as standard and they were great tyres!

I have noticed they have dropped quite a lot in price recently and so am looking at getting them as my next choice in tyres.

do you know about the legals? anyone? Beuller? Beuller?

quoted me $217 for the F1s, but recommended the Dunlop 3000A as they can be fully rotated where the F1s are directional, quoted me $208

Thoughts?
One of my local chain/franchise tyre stores currently has a special on Dunlop tyres .. 4 for the price of 3. Maybe in your area too?

Another option for quiet tyres is the Dunlop LM 602 in 225/50-17. Beaurepaires do them for $255 each. They are OE spec on Fairlanes and don't appear in the catalogues for some reason.

I've had them now for 15,000km and they look like they will go the same again. I haven't been as good with pressures and rotation as I could have been. I run them at 35psi front and 32psi rear (most of the time).

The only other tyres I've had were the 205 Bridgestones so difficult to compare. Obviously these are night and day ahead of what I had especially in the wet due to their silica compound.

While we are on the subject of tyres maybe we should get a sticky organised so that people can put up what they are running with stats such as pressures and how often they rotate them along with comments especially compared to other tyres the've used.

My Parents XR6 Turbo came with Dunlop SP3000A as standard and they were great tyres!

I have noticed they have dropped quite a lot in price recently and so am looking at getting them as my next choice in tyres.

They are crap tyres.. They are on my XR6T and i absolutely hate them.. Performance tyre my ass...

do you know about the legals? anyone? Beuller? Beuller?


Anyone out there able to give a definite answer to the legals of 225/35r17. I came accross the same issue when getting quotes for my rims ( almost had em 1 yr and still not on my f*%$en car:swearing: :tantrum: ) people on here say illegal but tyre places say its ok.?????

I have now been told that they are definitely illegal

sorry for not posting this earlier...

Okay, for those die hard Aussie Magna members who have had trouble sleeping wondering what tyres I went with.

To recap, I have been told I must have the same size tyre on the verada as any other size is illegal.

becasue the GTV is an unusual size they want to charge me more.

Tyrepower have Toyo MP3 (?) for 200 a piece or Bridgestone G111 for 249. The owner of Tyrepower thoroughly recommended the toyo, said they were multi directional, well made and quiet, that I would get same k's out of them as the Bridgestones.

So, any thoughts on the Toyo?

Dont all reply at once...

toyos are a good tyre, well its up to you if you want a noisy tyre or a quite tyre.

Im using Goodyear eagle, 235/45/R17 and work a treat, not the best but by far better than Silverstone or Nexen ****.
Costed me around $120 a tyre at the tyre factory, and have really good tread. Slightly noisy on concrete :)

if ur getting gsd-3's for 120 a peice i will take 10 and sell em at my work!!!! we dont even get em that cheap! (i work in a tyre shop)

im so glad that the gsd3's are the win! :D

and bain, the 3000a's bad? ur one of the few people i have ever herd badmouth them, i get more happy ppl then sad with these babies

oh and if ur a tightass hankook k104's (im prtty sure) ftw

oh and no u cannot put a 235 on a 7" rim ffs