Just wondering would a strut brace for a TH magna fit the Tj ?

Yes it will

Agreed, Whiteline only have the one for all 3rd Gens.

Thanks for info. :cool:

question :- do front wheel drive cars need a strut brace?

question :- do front wheel drive cars need a strut brace?

No car NEEDS a strut brace but they certainly do help, but dont just take my word for it. Take a read of:

http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/articles/AS_susp_01_0202.pdf
http://www.whiteline.com.au/articles/strutbrace_H4s_2001a.htm

Its not needed on a road car, nor do they affect handling at that level of driving.

Its not needed on a road car, nor do they affect handling at that level of driving.

Thats the biggest load of crap ever. I've proven you wrong on this and so have many other people on here on many occasions.

Stay out of threads to do with strut braces.

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14940


mine, a vl, a skyline; 32 and 33. i had before and afters on the skylines front and rear braces.. they do help but my point is that the car is for road use and shouldnt be pushed anywhere near the limit.. they are noticable but as far as increasing handling and allowing more g's who knows

my car has one because i pulled it off my spare car before i pawned it off


So never on a magna.


no offence but all the cars you quote except for yours are rear wheel drive, in my understanding you can't compare a steering and suspension mod from a front to a rear wheel drive car its like comparing... doesnt matter

but yeh just something to think about for next time, i know ill get one soon as i have some spare dosh lying around after i eventually get my exhaust.

cheers y'all
jaz

Definately a improvement on handling by fitting a strut brace on a magna. :D

Huge improvement when i got mine, Over here in the US the state of West Virgina is known for its big twisty highway mountain roads, without my brace i had to take the turns at around 50mph (limit is 65), any faster and the body would roll enough to jerk the steering wheel and make the car very unstable. With the strut brace i'm good up to about 75mph on the same turns before it starts feeling unstable.

The biggest notice is when turning at a T Junction though, you can accelerate hard from a dead stop into a left or right turn and you wont have everything in the car shift to the opposite side!

well it does help wen cornering

Its not needed on a road car, nor do they affect handling at that level of driving.



Go back to working on your POS rollerskate

oyoyoy lets not turn this into an abusive thread!

We all know Turbo_Charades opinion on strut braces, but we all know other peoples as well. He is allowed to vioce his as long as he aknowledges that he hasnt had one on a magna.

I put one on my TH Sports and noticed a fairly big difference even when just going around round-abouts at a normal speed. The front end sits much flatter.

Cheers
Pete

Thanks Pete.

I may have never driven a magna with a strut brace, but that isn't my point. Sure you might be able to notice a difference in how the car feels, and by all accounts it may be positive towards handling, my point, from what I understand, is that at the level of driving around suburbia and even some aggressive driving, it isn't going to be making a difference. It could simply be over come with a different driving technique.

I havent noticed bugger all difference in my current car with the brace. Looks cool but.:cool:

I have always added braces on my cars...
It DOES help cornering stability- there can be no question about it.....Its a law of physics!
If you want the maths prove to this effect - look it up in the net.

The question that you should ask yourselves is if you drive in such a manner that you will notice it....Just take a corner at the limit of the car - without braces....and then try it WITH braces....you WILL be able to turn in faster in terms of car stability - dont let anyone fool you.


NOTE: Think of braces as a means to expand the physical limits of your car - if you never drive near the limit, you will not notice a difference.

Chantra :gtfo:

Strut braces do something. There isn't much rigidity around the engine bay, its a big hole waiting to be flexed. Just remember how much rigidity is lost in convertibles without roofs. They're known to flex and bend and have nowhere near the chrisp handing of a normal roofed car. And on the other side, roll cages also add a hell of a lot of rigidity.

Nobody is wrong or right, surely a lot has to do with general suspension setup? If your car floats like a boat and high soft springs, the difference will be negligable. Firm the suspension up a lot and the force has to go somewhere...through the mounts and into the body? And of course the harder you corner the more noticable it will be?

:think:

Thanks Pete.

I may have never driven a magna with a strut brace, but that isn't my point. Sure you might be able to notice a difference in how the car feels, and by all accounts it may be positive towards handling, my point, from what I understand, is that at the level of driving around suburbia and even some aggressive driving, it isn't going to be making a difference. It could simply be over come with a different driving technique.

And this is where I pointed out in yet another thread that that isnt right either.

You said it'd be the same effect if you turned in harder but you are incorrect as it doesnt work. The strut brace stiffens up the front so the initial "bite/turn in" whatever it's called is much much more immediate than before. It makes for more precise cornering, less lag from the input to the response.

Until you actually put one on a magna TC there's no reason for you to comment in regards to it.

I havent noticed bugger all difference in my current car with the brace. Looks cool but.:cool:

thats cos u dont know how to drive.

oh and it also stops you from havin accidents...... pity you didnt have one when u first bought a magna.

thats cos u dont know how to drive.

Or maybe it's because I have never driven my current car without a brace?:gtfo:



oh and it also stops you from havin accidents...... pity you didnt have one when u first bought a magna.
Oh noes! I had a stack over a year ago.:shock: We'd better all keep acting like babies and crying over it.:doubt:

Oh noes! I had a stack over a year ago.:shock: We'd better all keep acting like babies and crying over it.:doubt:

how many dints/scratches do you have on your car right now?

In a bid to get back on track, I bought a genuine VY/VZ SS strut brace (92112662) which barely needed modifying, and works a treat. Got this one cause their dirt cheap at around $45 from your local holden dealer. Im done now, please proceed :)

In a bid to get back on track, I bought a genuine VY/VZ SS strut brace (92112662) which barely needed modifying, and works a treat. Got this one cause their dirt cheap at around $45 from your local holden dealer. Im done now, please proceed :)
picsorban! How much modifying needed to be done?

at that price, even i would get one for a magna. stuff paying over 100 for one though.

at that price, even i would get one for a magna. stuff paying over 100 for one though.




STFU and :gtfo: of this thread

picsorban! How much modifying needed to be done?


:stoopid:

how many dints/scratches do you have on your car right now?For the purpose of this thread, NONE that a strut brace may have in any way prevented.

In a bid to get back on track, I bought a genuine VY/VZ SS strut brace (92112662) which barely needed modifying, and works a treat. Got this one cause their dirt cheap at around $45 from your local holden dealer. Im done now, please proceed :)
o rly?!

very intersted! come on mate! Share the wealth! what needed modifiying and what the product is and the number!


STFU and :gtfo: of this thread
mate get over it.. if anyone were in need of telling to stfu it would be you.:gtfo:

All depends on other mods and tyres too. See, if the tyres provide less grip, less lateral forces, no strut brace or similar device will help - cos the rubber gives in way before the stabilising factor becomes relevant.
But, add on wide, softer tyres and voila!
Needless to say I have a strutbrace....and other goodies too :D

What comes to necessities (TurboCha) and driving speeds - I guess if one drives 30 kph 24/7, no mods are never needed. Well, apart from brain transplant :cool:
Say, drive legal speed on good road, say 80 zone. A dog comes from the bush right in front of u. U dodge, steer away, avoid what ever - and survive with modded supension car. Different situation with standard suspension car. And this has nothing to do with speeding or how one drives - but only with sudden, quick and safe manouvering.
Since 1978 I have never owned a car (longer than 6 months :doubt: ) with std suspension on it. No way.
So there.

For the purpose of this thread, NONE that a strut brace may have in any way prevented.

yeah, you're right........ theres just no cure for poor driving.

(or shopping centre poles) :D

In a bid to get back on track, I bought a genuine VY/VZ SS strut brace (92112662) which barely needed modifying, and works a treat. Got this one cause their dirt cheap at around $45 from your local holden dealer. Im done now, please proceed :)

yeh c'mon man what do we have to modify on this :rant: ???????????????photos????

i'm gona make my own, i have all the necessary tools and some good articles, a carton of beer and a whole weekend.

i'm gona make my own, i have all the necessary tools and some good articles, a carton of beer and a whole weekend.You're going to make a strut brace out of a carton of beer? :shock: I don't reckon the cardboard will be strong enough, man :doubt: lol

yeah, you're right........ theres just no cure for poor driving.

(or shopping centre poles) :D

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:


lol

For those looking for info and pictures on the Holden strut brace, scroll down the following webpage for pictures "http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/archive2/topic.php/14769-1.html".

I've only just had a look, so I have no idea how much modification is required to the Holden strut brace.

I think that I'm getting old, what does picsorban mean? Maybe you have a dictionary hidden away for these terms.

Ken

picsorban = Pictures to view or we will ban you = pics or ban :thumbsup:

I Think ive got a pic floating around on pc @ home of before it was fitted lining it up so will post pics 2moro. But rea;;y not alot of mods if you got a mate with a welder, = piece of ....! If wanted a dodgy job u could just drill new holes, but i wouldnt think this is a good idea.... pics soon.

at that price, even i would get one for a magna. stuff paying over 100 for one though.


why waste your $45 ?


surely you could go to Autobarn or something and pickup a typeR air freshener or cup holder to add more value to your driving experience.

very intersting discussion here. As for making your own strut brace.... well, good luck. If it works for you, great. I personally prefer getting something that is well tested and has warranty. Seen a few home made strut braces going through bonnets or firewall.

Strut braces are not going to make a massive difference such that you suddenly have to counter steer going into your driveway. It does make a difference if you are in-tune with your car, even at 40km/h. I noticed a difference with installng one on a 1.5L carby lancer with 33kw.

If you want big difference in handling, get coilovers. If you can't afford, it then get strut braces and rear sway bar..... and some good tyres.

very intersting discussion here. As for making your own strut brace.... well, good luck. If it works for you, great. I personally prefer getting something that is well tested and has warranty. Seen a few home made strut braces going through bonnets or firewall.

Strut braces are not going to make a massive difference such that you suddenly have to counter steer going into your driveway. It does make a difference if you are in-tune with your car, even at 40km/h. I noticed a difference with installng one on a 1.5L carby lancer with 33kw.

If you want big difference in handling, get coilovers. If you can't afford, it then get strut braces and rear sway bar..... and some good tyres.


Well seeing as I have a 3axis CNC machine, lathes, tig welders, plasma cutters ect, I think I will give it a go. Plus 90% of the materials are free.

I'm a mechanical engineer I can certify my own work so no problems there. Plus I will over engineer it anyway.

I know it will cost me about $30 to do and it will be better then the ones on the net.

Thats fair enough then.

I think Anthony was more talking about a bodgey backyard job by someone who doesnt know what they're doing ;)

i made a "dodgey" strut brace at work about 6 months ago, hasnt popped through my bonnet yet. definately made a difference in hard cornering above 60km/h. Materials cost me $14, and a couple hours labour, made everything on it. has a left hand thread in one end and a right hand in the other, so it a piece of piss to fit/remove it.
Still been meaning to take it off and recess the holes so the nuts sit inside a bit, but seriously cant be stuffed.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/356000-356999/356409_32_full.jpg

I personally wouldn't call that bodgey.

But I would call you bodgey.

??? Didn't know there was ppl like that....!!! :bowrofl:


I think Anthony was more talking about a bodgey backyard job by someone who doesnt know what they're doing ;)

You will notice the difference of a strut brace if your car is lowered on say superlows and you have good shocks. It cuts the body roll by like 70%, thus improving handling and more control of the car around corners. I know it helps heaps as I had the whiteline strut brace on my TH.

I personally wouldn't call that bodgey.

But I would call you bodgey.

well if i had my way i'd call u a ****ing retarded p**fass c*ck smoking fudge packer. But seeing as though yur Admin, and can ban me...i'll just call u that on msn.

what if he blocks you on msn...

pffff he wouldnt block me on msn, he's got no-one else to talk to. lol

Painful...because it's true

Painful...because it's true

LOOOOOL :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: