View Full Version : What would a rising rate FPR have on an N/A engine?
[SEIRYU]
05-01-2006, 10:10 AM
as the title says... would a rising rate fuel pressure regulator have any positive effect on the higher compression engine of the ralliarts?
cheers
Unmodified? or modified..
Unmodified: Id say you wouldnt see any beneficial results as the car should be running fine on its stock fuel lines/pump. Unless your car is leaning out somehow, then there wouldnt be a need for one?
Black Beard
05-01-2006, 11:09 AM
I found it fitting one improved throttle response and helped eliminate the 'flat spot' usually associated with a certain brand of aftermarket air filters.
Having said that - it could have been a "placebo" effect brought on by paying $300+ for a piece of metal and a few rubber hoses and hose clamps.
Honestly, I felt an improvement. Was it worth it?? - I guess thats all relative. I've got a feeling you have the "Barry" fuel rail kit fitted to your car (or else I'm confusing you with someone else) - if so, it is likely you will get less benefit from a FPR than someone like myself who previously fitted the FPR to a car without the fuel rail kit installed.
Hope that helps.
[SEIRYU]
05-01-2006, 12:01 PM
ok cheers mate :thumbsup:
yes i do have the "barry" lean out kit lol
and bain, its for my car, being said ralliart, being slightly modified... lol
i got a rising rate on mine,
they suggested this one because i will be goin turbo later on,
it also helps with the happy-G
[SEIRYU]
06-01-2006, 04:59 AM
so there would be no real benefit until i put a turbo on?
MAGNA
06-01-2006, 06:25 AM
']so there would be no real benefit until i put a turbo on?
Looks like you're going to have to put a turbo on it then! :badgrin:
[SEIRYU]
06-01-2006, 08:12 AM
thats the plan... lol
just need some money to get me started :bowrofl:
dexsta
06-01-2006, 08:17 AM
best FPR on the market is the SARD Racing i've been told
[SEIRYU]
06-01-2006, 08:19 AM
$ value?
u'll also need a special adaptor made up so that u can take out the original one...
i have a spare one of these ;)
[SEIRYU]
06-01-2006, 08:36 AM
ooh awesome...
goody n shiit :D
might investigate what these are worth, then ill get ya on msn :thumbsup:
the kits are $300+ some crap like that
ohh i also have a spare reg in my garage too
cept it dont have the top bolt and these are just impossible to find...
otherwise its like $190 i payed for mine to be installed
dexsta
06-01-2006, 08:48 AM
SARD Racing fpr's can be picked up on evilbay for $200 and under.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SARD-Fuel-Press-Reg-SILVIA-SKYLINE-WRX-EVO-SUPRA-200SX_W0QQitemZ4600068703QQcategoryZ43808QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
']so there would be no real benefit until i put a turbo on?
Or high comp NA..
Read up on what a FPR does Seafood. You need to get a good understanding of the products before just forking out $$$ for them.
No point in installing items that will have little to no benefit until you fork out thousands of dollars on additional mods
Dpack_1
06-01-2006, 09:23 AM
I'm with Bain on this one, my understanding of a rising rate FPR is that they increase fuel pressure inline with force inducted boost. This keeps a constant fuel pressure in conjuction with the huge air increase and thus keeping the A/F ratio at an optimum rate.
Seeing as you'll have no boost on a N/A car it'll do very little bar running off of intake vacuum thus leaning the A/F mixture a little under normal driving conditions (i guess saving a little on economy over piston life) and return to the normal fuel pressure under WOT conditions.
Personally i think the 200-300 dollars would be best saved until you have the mods to support the need for a rising rate FPR.
[SEIRYU]
06-01-2006, 09:47 AM
no worries, cheers :D
cthulhu
06-01-2006, 10:22 AM
I'm with Bain on this one, my understanding of a rising rate FPR is that they increase fuel pressure inline with force inducted boost. This keeps a constant fuel pressure in conjuction with the huge air increase and thus keeping the A/F ratio at an optimum rate.A rising rate FPR increases fuel pressure disproportionately with manifold pressure, hence the name rising rate.
Don't confuse a rising rate FPR with a boost sensing FPR. They do different things.
[SEIRYU]
06-01-2006, 10:27 AM
Don't confuse a rising rate FPR with a boost sensing FPR. They do different things.
you're a mechanical N/A buff... would it be good or waste of time?
cthulhu
06-01-2006, 10:35 AM
an N/A buff maybe, but certainly no expert lol
I've got one on my car though.. primarily because I needed a higher rail pressure than the factory regulator could supply. Whether the rising rate feature is adding anything, I don't know, but I can't see how it would be hurting to be increasing fuel pressure faster than it's "required".
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