I have water leaking in through both front wheel wells. Has been since I got the car and seems to be coming from the windscreen.

Anyone else have this drama?

In my experience this can happen when the car has been in an accident. ie the chassis has been twisted and window seal has been broken/stretched etc OR a new window has been put in and not sealed properly.

Pour some water on the windscreen near the scuttle and see if it comes through, and if you can work out where its coming through...

You could be missing grommets between the cabin and the wheel arch or firewall... although its wierd to be missing grommets from each side, but if someone has changed the audio system and run cables from the bonnet inside the cabin they may have removed a grommet, or stuffed a seal.

It could also be the winscreen seals, but most windscreen places will tell you that its uncommon for a windscreen to leak from the bottom.. most leak from the top as there is an overhang at the bottom meaning water would have to be squirted up from the bottom of the glass to get in. That said, if it is twisted and you need the winscreen resealed it will set you back around $150...

Check also the side window seals and that the glass is touching the rubber and there are no gaps.

And does it only happen when it rains? cos if not, it might condensation or leaks in the air con..

You should do some research yourself to determine the problem first.. Use a jug of water
and do a section at a time to try and find the source of the leak.. It can be a costly exercise if you just keep trying to fix it when you are not entirely sure what the problem is.

Yep should have got this fixed 2 years ago ..... the leaking water has corroded the BCU and thats the problem with the Immobilizer. So $500 dollars later I'll pick the car up tomorrow and be chatting to a windscreen person asap.

I told the Mitsubishi Service people that allot of 3rd gens are having this water leak problem and they are going to look into it, for what it's worth.

check all rubber gromits in the fire wall, mine was doing this exact same thing. thought it was the windscreen at first

Rain in Melbourne and the Magna started leaking.... and playing up with starting. I spoke to a friend who had the same problem and he replaced the black plastic vent covers on top of the plenum as the seals deteriorate over time and fixed the problem. I just checked mine and the foam seals are worn but I noticed on the left there is a second plastic cover but not on the right.... I just spoke to parts at Preston Motors and he said it's only meant to be the left side.... so it's off to bunnings to get some of this foam stuff.

Covers do not much aside from keep some dust out and look good

There are grommets under the guard however another common problem is where the wiring goes through the inner guards into the cabin, the plug and seal set up can be dis lodged and cause a leak

I will be pulling the thing apart to find the leaks today, I don't wanna pay for another BCM within 12 months of getting the last one.

Seems to have worked, I resealed the vent covers better than the factory ever did and bought some new clips and replaced those plastic screws with real ones. Then got someone to run the hose over the screen for a few minutes and no leaks, before my feet would have been soaked.

Fingers crossed that a cheap $30 fix works long term.

I'm having a simlar problem, but I've been told on another fourm it may be the heater core :confused:

I'm having a simlar problem, but I've been told on another fourm it may be the heater core :confused:

If its your heater core, you should have a very distinct smell in the car (a cross between wet socks, and coolant).

Most wont leak if you dont use your air-con/heater**

**disclaimer - im not 100% sure if this is correct, take post with grain of salt.

If its your heater core, you should have a very distinct smell in the car (a cross between wet socks, and coolant).

Most wont leak if you dont use your air-con/heater**

**disclaimer - im not 100% sure if this is correct, take post with grain of salt.

The magna does not have a heater tap, the coolant constantly flows through the core and the air is either directed through or around it depending on the temp required.

Third gens often leak, there are 2 seals where the pipes attach to the core and these go hard and leak. Are only a couple of bucks each but is a dash out job to replace

Good to know, well, kinda......

Mal - wouldnt this design make the system rather bulky?

No, less bulky as there is a flap that either sends the air over the heater core or around it. There is no tap to jam up, leak etc so in a lot of ways is a better idea

If its your heater core, you should have a very distinct smell in the car (a cross between wet socks, and coolant).

Most wont leak if you dont use your air-con/heater**

**disclaimer - im not 100% sure if this is correct, take post with grain of salt.

My air con hasn't worked since a week after I bought the car (Janurary 09)
but I do have a slight smell, but that could be from the wet carpet lol

I'll see how I go after I have the air con fixed...

No, less bulky as there is a flap that either sends the air over the heater core or around it. There is no tap to jam up, leak etc so in a lot of ways is a better idea

Fair enough, im sure I'll get to rip mine out in the years to come.

As a side note - do these heater cores have plastic end caps? I've seen plastic end caps used on Mazda's, after a while as you can imagine the plastic gets brittle and cracks on the inlet or outlet connection (tap design aswell from memory).

Well with the rain we had today if this little fix was ever going to fail it was with that bucketing.... and it held up! :facejump: :facejump: :facejump:

Oh I got the rubber from Clark rather than Bunnings.

Well done!..could've just moved to Adelaide.....never rains.

Well done!..could've just moved to Adelaide.....never rains.

But then I'd have to talk slower and think in a backwards way!

But then I'd have to talk slower and think in a backwards way!

derrrrr........................!what.............. ?:snooty:aww yeah,take our Magnas and then abuse us.

hee hee ..... go PIES, the real Pies that is!

Well with the rain we had today if this little fix was ever going to fail it was with that bucketing.... and it held up! :facejump: :facejump: :facejump:

Oh I got the rubber from Clark rather than Bunnings.

Spoke too soon ..... so I've admitted defeat and went out and bought new vent covers for $37 and fitted them yesterday.

Fingers crossed!

Vent covers do not stop water leaks these are only leaf guards as discussed previously.

If you have water leaks you either have a grommit missing or another more serious issue.

First thing is to determine where the water is coming in from then you can move to fix.

Even if the leaf guards do reduce the water getting to the area leaking, it will not by anymeans be a cure.

ive had a water leak in front pass foot well, replaced the rubber like you did it slowed it but...i was missing a whole grommet behind the spring thingo on the pass side of engine bay. i think i left it out when installing sub and amp, check that out

Thanks will have a good root around tomorrow!

Mmmmmm So this gromment thing where is this??? I had a amp wire coming thru water leaking in my car So i fix it by taking the wire away and fitting a new plug STILL leaking, So i pulled the carpet back and shoved the sprinkler on the car and guess what still doing it. The fan is on the passengerside i put my hand in there and felt around and the left side is wet so water is getting in around the seam of it. I might go and pull my wheel off and inner guard to see what i can find i cant continue to do my interior exchange until this is fixed as im not wasting money on sumthing that will just get ruiened

i had this problem i redid the leaf guard rubber thing that sits on the window and i pulled the plastic trim in the wheel arch off and went crazy with silicone and i think its stopped it. hasnt rained for ages so not sure.

Hey People.

The missus has a 1999 Sports and water is filling both foot well area. I took the plastic vent thing off (near the wipers and the rubber has completely perished. Im not sure how much good fixing this will be as water will still get through the vents and fill the area near the wiper motor. I have read here people talk about checking rubber grommets. Are these grommets the ones against the firewall in the engine bay or the ones aginst the firewall under the plastic cover thing?

This is doing my head in. Please help.

the grommit in question is in the front quarter pannel, you takle the splash guards off (after removing the wheel) and its sort of in line with the indicator but up a bit i guess?

the grommit in question is in the front quarter pannel, you takle the splash guards off (after removing the wheel) and its sort of in line with the indicator but up a bit i guess?

So are we saying that water runs down the windshield, through the plastic leaf cover, then inside the guard to drain out, but gets into the cabin via this grommett because it has persished?

Ok,

so today I puilled the wheel off and the plastic guard. I can see where the grommet may be an issue. The drain hole which allows water to down from the windscreen is just above the grommet and water flows over it. Unfortunately, in my case the grommet was in good order. As a test, I gaff taped up the bottom of the windscreen sealing the plastic leaf cover to the windscreen. NO LEAKS. I then took the gaff tape off and it started leaking. Im pretty sure the leaf guard does more than we think. I think it allows water to pass through the vents and this water is correctly channeled to an outlet, but if water gets in via persished rubber at other poits (our in our case, the whole windscreen,) then its causes leaks.

Ideas anyone?