yeh, we ran over a medium strip last nite. didnt know it was there. it was in an area in which they are developing, and due to the insufficient light, i run straight over the blasted thing and f*&ked up my undercarrage of my car. im very disapointed. and if i didnt have anyone in the car, i guarantee i wouldve cried. (something which came later after a few beers)

can anyone help with wat ive done, by the look of teh fotos? also i have a new rattle in the engine which wasnt there prior to my leap of faith.

Cheers

Trav :cry:

yeh well if you cant read the notes on the fotos. it actually says

SOme cotton stuff coming out of the exhaust bit area

damaged some of the exhaust bit (the header of extractors maybe) (no i dont have extractors, but those kinda thingys)

Mangled some metal that runs down the centre of teh car.

Some white cylinder has oil crap all over it.


some more shocking fotos :cry:

Sorry to here mate :( #-o looks bad....but can be fixed.... :)

Sorry I cant help...I am not mechanically there....but everything can be fixed....

yes I would have cried also :-#

The white canister is your engine oil filter, and the metal box next to it is the engine oil sump (holds oil in the bottom of the engine). The white cotton is used as dampener to stop rattles between the heat shield and exhaust pipe.

Yeah.. I knew bout the Oil Filter and the Oil Sump!

SuFz :evil:

Buy the looks of the photos, you have bent you oil sump cuasing the seals to leak, and the oil filter that is coverd by oil thats now leaking from dammaged seal somewhere on the block.

don't worry about the white cotton stuff from the exuast, its just insulation, it sits between the exuast piping and the cover piping(2 half pipes of bigger diameter stuck around the zorst)

Doesn't look to bad, but could be pricey to fix, looks like a bit of labour might be needed to fix all the damage

yeh cheers boys

so wat about wat i gotta do? prices?

help? is it drivable?

Trav

The damaged box thingie is the sump....
the fisrt thing is to remove it and make sure that the oil pick up has not been damaged... DONT RUN THE CAR unil you find this out...!!!!
you will need a new sump gasket and of course Oil...
The oil leek every where Im hoping is because the sump seal is stuffed and the oil is leaking out around the seal.
The stuffing is more than likely just the packing in the flex joint...
I dont reckon you can fix that.. adn it will requre replacement...
SO EITHER... get a second hand one from the wreckers.... or use the money towards some headers....

"Mangled some metal that runs down the " that is just part of the engine protection bars... and gives a bit of extra strength to the under body... as long as it aint touching the bottom of the engine then it should be ok... they are VERY Strong BUT!!! once stuffed they need to be replaced .. since they are a hollow section they cannot be beaten back into shape..

Haydn

First thing I would do is take photos of the accident area again! if it was road works, but the council failed to put up appropriate warning signs, you can raise this with the local council and get them to pay for your repairs, however, this is assuming that you did not see any signs and/or poor lighting at the time. You may want to consult with your legal adviser for suggestions.

See a Mechanic for a quick diagnoistic, and while you're at it, get the quote for the council to pay for.

good luck,

car is probably still driveable, as you've driven it afterwards to get home, don't push it hard, keep a close eye on the engine oil level, pay attention to your exhaust smoke, look for dark colours (dark blue in particular as it is burning engine oil, possible gasket leak).

also observe idles, is it rough or normal, etc, hopefully none of the Conrods are damaged, it shouldn't be, and hope the camshaft is still in good shape.

A big knock like this may be altered the tolerances, they'll need to be checked (i think get the Mechanics' oppinon first.)

Cheers

what road did that happen on...

AND WTF WERE YOU DOING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD!!!

singing cindy lauper songs were you ....

Im not having a go at you... But that is in the middle of the road.....

ive seen a old skyline go right over a road sign once... funni as since he was on wannaroo road.. the sign was on a joining road (i cant remember the road but its Down wannaroo towords where theres a pizza place red rooter and a video store...)

was hell funni cause the car leaped in the air!!! and he shouldnt have even hit it... but he veered off and did it....

Hmmm

So come again how did you do this!!!

Oh and did anyone see fireworks???

Some reason herb Grayem reacreation centre had fireworks???

sorry to hear that mate :( looks like you screwed half of your engine there. the light side it could be just the sump gasket and some oil lines that goes underneath your car, the worst you might've cracked the engine block. let's hope the later does not happen.... :D

stop hooning :lol:

With a tap like that you would have written off the car to crack the block and for the record there is no sump gasket just a silicone seal which is probably leaking. Some of that oil looks like it has been there a while as well.
Remove and replace the pan, these engines have a 2 peice sump so check the allow part bit ig it is damages it should be obvious. (change your oil fileter while your at it as you will have to drain what is left of it first.
The exhaust if not to badly damaged, remove the heat shield, re position the padding and fir it to gether again.
Make sure you get the wheel allignment checked to be safe as these things tend to move things.

could have been worse.... my friend drove over something similar in his civic and tore off his Spoon headers right off the engine block!!
oh well, at least you got an excuse to get RPW headers!!

Cheers for all your help/concerns/responses guys. Much Appreciated

Gave it to Dave at RPW today to have for the week. Looks like a maximum of about $700 (worst case scenario), but he won't know till he actually gets around to havin a look. So im without a car for about a week and more than likely out of dosh :cry:

ah well she'll be right. just have to start umpiring a little more :lol: great, cant wait :roll:

thanks guys

Trav

Cheers for all your help/concerns/responses guys. Much Appreciated

Gave it to Dave at RPW today to have for the week. Looks like a maximum of about $700 (worst case scenario), but he won't know till he actually gets around to havin a look. So im without a car for about a week and more than likely out of dosh :cry:

ah well she'll be right. just have to start umpiring a little more :lol: great, cant wait :roll:

thanks guys

Trav

make sure you take pics of the scene. note that it looks like they havent sprayed any reflective paint on that island. id send the council the bill. in fact i would go down there and speak to one of the guys and hope they would just settle by giving you the money (you can only hope) 700 wont seem much moola to them.

i know someone who got paid because stupid gutter concrete guys sprayed concrete down one side of his car , whole car respray and to think he was inside and all they had to do was knock.

also take pictures of where the road markings take you . by the looks of that they havent erased they previous centre markings so in reality they guide you straight into the island.

Looks nasty. But mechnically, I have little idea of what I'm looking at, so it mightn't be that bad :)

So did you actually go over both the islands?

How fast did you hit?

yep both, only at 50 km/h, speed limit of course. stil enough to do damage thou obviously :(

Trav

yeah but what was yee doin in da MIDDLE of Dee Road :P

heheh sorry i just wanna know!!

did you drink anything that night!! or did you just get confused disorientated by this hot chick that was walking the streets :P

Seroiusly dude what happened details :P

GET YOUR STORY RIGHT HERE FIRST before ringing the council and complaining...

Im sure we can make up something good :P

Aww u poor thing, that's sooo sad! :cry:
Did u hit the corner of the island, and then hit the middle bit where pedestrians walk hitting that side and going over it? Or did u just hit the corner and miss the middle bit? If any of u understand that, then u get a gold star.
If u hit all those curb bits on the island, that's pretty bad especially if ur car was weighed down with ppl.
Even though ur worried about ur engine parts etc, i'd be more worried that u bent your axle, or strut, or whatever they're called, because i hear they are veeery expensive to repair.
Oh and were ur wheels out of line when driving home?
Anyway it'll be fixed soon so dont worry :D

ps. that was so cute that u wanted to cry but didnt... haha

hey guys, well got it back on friday, and well i dont think she'll ever be the same. at one stage if you had asked me, i woulda told you i was gonna sell it. just doesnt feel the same. doubt it ever will, i just hate having stuff wrong with my car.

anyway, $847 later, shes fixed and back on the road.

im in the mis of putting a letter togther to the council. hopefully with the help of TurboHead (off the Mogwa forums)

any queries, or suggestions for the letter, please reply or email/PM

Cheerss

Trav

hey guys, well got it back on friday, and well i dont think she'll ever be the same. at one stage if you had asked me, i woulda told you i was gonna sell it. just doesnt feel the same. doubt it ever will, i just hate having stuff wrong with my car.

anyway, $847 later, shes fixed and back on the road.

im in the mis of putting a letter togther to the council. hopefully with the help of TurboHead (off the Mogwa forums)

any queries, or suggestions for the letter, please reply or email/PM

Cheerss

Trav
Shit,sorry to hear wat happened man :(
So wat exactly had to be replaced,fixed,that cost that much money?

Labour - $254
2nd hand flex pipe - $75
Custom engine mount - $160
Engine cross member - $115
Sump - $45

etc

Service - $110

Trav

Quite costly mate :?
Did you get any quotes from other places 1st?
Least ur beast is all good now 8) 8)

Should have sold it 8)

But thats just my wallet talking...

pretty close, i was in a bad way for a while. still am. hardly drive it now. just need some more money, so i can hopefully get rid of the gay noises still coming from under the bonnet somehwere. ahve to talk to dave soon again

Trav

Speaking (off the record) as an employee of a local government (but not from WA).. if it were in Queensland this would how things would pan out.

A) More than likely a road in a development area is the responsibility of the developer themselves, not Council

B) Developers have a fatter wallet... go after them and your more than likely to get some cash out of them.

C) Depending on the developer, they may not have as many bulldog lawyers watching their backs. They are also more likely to settle, as council will do anything it can to crush you to make sure that it doesn't set a president and they get flooded with claims.

D) Council would find some way of not finding themselves liable.. you need a $10-20 million public liability insurance coverage just to put some chairs on a footpath outside a restaurant.

E) Liability would be passed onto the developer as part of their development approval and conditions imposed on them. Council may also wish to investigate for non-compliance with a condition of a development approval.

yeh cheers mate. i did send a letter to the developer. and i got a phone call shortl;y after, and they wanted to have people come out and check things out. and they wanted to know if they wanted them to go through me, or my insurance company.

to tell you the truth, i havent got back to them. iw as far too busy with TAFE etc at the time. i am still in debt for the accident, paying off my girlfriend and my parents.

i will hopefulyl soon write another letter saying how disapointed i am with the outcome, as i coudlnt even be sent an apologetic letter saying that they were in the wrong (like they would anyway)

Trav

an appologetic letter would have been an admission of guilt. if you can get that out of a developer, you've got them by the balls, then go for settlement

Not trying to be unsupportive of a member or anything can i ask how you ran over it, did the headlights not pick it up, if the road was changed to the last time you were there were you not looking out for changes etc?

thats exactly what i was thinking. its not councils fault if your headlights dont work or if you werent watching where you were going. its doesnt matter if the road had changed you should have know there was work going on and been more cautious. anyway hope it all works out for ya. it could have been worse. a tree could have fallen in front of your car going at 90kms an hour that the council was supposed to have cut down 2 months earlier. thats what happened to my mate. needless to say they were more than happy to pay up to avoid any nasty law suites.

sorry too butt in.....

but... TELL THE STORY ALREADY!!!!
from the moment u went into 2rd to the moment u went on to up the island

and dude... its werid... $800 buck to fix all that shit udner ur car...... $1100 bucks to fix a dent on my front left fender.... :lol: :lol: ....... :cry:

hahaha thehkway, u win!! haha

nah, poor visability, no signage, modified road, light coloured island with no sign. all these factors saw me go over the island.

Trav

Well again not flaming you but do not drive in vic as most traffic islands in Vic are light coloured, given the road is black i thing it is a good move really.