what would you lose or gain by loosing the runners and having the plenuim chamber straight on top tf the lower manafold (no runners)

or

have 6 butterflys 1 for each clyinder, no plenuim, a conecting pipe to airflow meter fron the 6 ports???

6 throttle bodies on a magna??? wow...

If you have ever driven a Pulsar GTi-R you will know how crisp that throttle is.

Shorter runners = more high end power but less torque.

Longer runners (see Ez's engine bay) = more torque, but less power available in the top end.

But if you have that much torque, you dont want to run your engine out to 6K RPM all the time, do you?

i made the manafold on me patrol long because there wasnt enough power on the sand the longer manafold helped this a lot...
thats why im thinking of making the magna shorter sort of like the old 4.3 265 hemi with tripple webbers, as they had real short runners between the carb and head they also redlined at about 6000rpm

Well the longer primaries will help with torque, so that's why you got petter performace on the sand. The engine 'pulled' better.

I'd go with longer runners for more torque, if an engine is peaky with lots of power up high, but no pull down low, it just turns into a massive chore to drive. Automatics can feel like a different car when they get just a little more torque than standard.

A really good setup would pull hard down low... that's the key to driving pleasure. Just give it a liitle more loud pedal and it just pulls away.

This is why Ez is looking at longer primaries on his extractors, and longer runners on his manifold.