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zebby
17-01-2006, 12:48 PM
May be able to afford one soon.

Brand new,

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!goauto_content.dealer_vehicle?vehicle_id=2658462&current_rec=21&total_rec=21&sort_type=1&make_id=3&model_id=5100&state_id=7&search_distance=25

after 3200 klms and depreciation,

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!goauto_content.dealer_vehicle?vehicle_id=2658501&current_rec=20&total_rec=21&sort_type=1&make_id=3&model_id=5100&state_id=7&search_distance=25

Ol' Fart
17-01-2006, 12:51 PM
Thats about normal depreciation for most cars in the price range. :)

WogsRus
17-01-2006, 12:58 PM
yeah my mitsubishi lost $5000 by driving out the door

[TUFFTR]
17-01-2006, 01:16 PM
is it just me or have they used the same 5 pictures just changed the color :nuts:
idiots

M4DDOG
17-01-2006, 02:45 PM
As soon as you leave the dealership you lose 30% of what you paid lol. Guys this is an ex demo, thats why its so cheap.

thatdbeme
18-01-2006, 06:57 AM
As soon as you leave the dealership you lose 30% of what you paid lol. Guys this is an ex demo, thats why its so cheap.

maybe that 30% is true for australian built cars, they depreciate disgustingly. most other cars wouldnt be as bad

xman333
23-01-2006, 05:37 AM
maybe that 30% is true for australian built cars, they depreciate disgustingly. most other cars wouldnt be as bad
if you want (percieved) great value... look at a three year old 7 series bimmer! roughly half of the (ridiculous) new car price!
A three year old calais would still bring around $35000. better resale than a top line euro? um.......yeah!

thatdbeme
23-01-2006, 08:10 AM
if you want (percieved) great value... look at a three year old 7 series bimmer! roughly half of the (ridiculous) new car price!
A three year old calais would still bring around $35000. better resale than a top line euro? um.......yeah!

nah a i cant believe a 3 year old calais would sell for that, even if it was advertised as for as much, i saw a 2 year old statesman v8 at a private market for 25 000 two weekends ago!

tasman
23-01-2006, 08:43 PM
I'm sick of losing money on Mitsubishis. First my 2000 NM Pajero then my Ralliart Magna (new price = $48,000 in 2002. Dealer offered $18,000 in 2005. = 63% depn in less than 3 years)

Ralliart 410
23-01-2006, 08:45 PM
I'm sick of losing money on Mitsubishis. First my 2000 NM Pajero then my Ralliart Magna (new price = $48,000 in 2002. Dealer offered $18,000 in 2005. = 63% depn in less than 3 years)

:stoopid:

tasman
23-01-2006, 09:03 PM
I didn't say I actually sold it for that price.

rex_man
23-01-2006, 10:10 PM
Depreciation is a killer. Unless you can use as a tax dodge or as a company car I can't understand people buying new, especially if they sell 2 years later. I guess if they keep it for 10 years then it's not so bad. My mate bought a new WRX in june 2005 and sold it 3 weeks ago. So he had it for 6 months, drive away $41'990 and he sold it recently for 32'000. Thats a 10K loss in 7 months. Part of the reason was he got an auto WRX in ice blue colour, which is least popular. It had only done 25'000kms... anyway thats my 2 cents.

Rod
23-01-2006, 10:27 PM
Depreciation is a killer. Unless you can use as a tax dodge or as a company car I can't understand people buying new, especially if they sell 2 years later. I guess if they keep it for 10 years then it's not so bad. My mate bought a new WRX in june 2005 and sold it 3 weeks ago. So he had it for 6 months, drive away $41'990 and he sold it recently for 32'000. Thats a 10K loss in 7 months. Part of the reason was he got an auto WRX in ice blue colour, which is least popular. It had only done 25'000kms... anyway thats my 2 cents.

why would u buy an auto WRX in the first place?

BCX7
23-01-2006, 10:29 PM
Depreciation is a killer. Unless you can use as a tax dodge or as a company car I can't understand people buying new, especially if they sell 2 years latermy dad does this, he always just upgrades to the next model of car after the warranty runs out... he's sick of problems with cars, so long as the car has warranty, he gets them to fix anything and everything for nothing.

he also buys hyundai, now with 5 year warranty and when they are new, they are already cheap as chips with all the luxuries... someone i know got a brand new accent with power windows, power mirrors, imobiliser/alarm, tint, spolier, mags, 5 year warranty, full tank of fuel, floor mats, automatic, a/c, undercar protective tar/rustkill stuff and all on-road costs for under $14,000. elantra is not too much more, a few more thousand and my dad's elantra is pretty quick for a 4 banger auto... quicker and more fuel efficient than my car.

i'm over old cars and fixing them :bowrofl: my own car, my mates cars, they all need attention. this is a good plan really... sell the car just before the warranty runs out... let someone else deal with the cars problems later.

rex_man
24-01-2006, 05:55 PM
No idea why he bought an auto WRX, it was at least 1 sec slower 0 - 100 than a manual. I think before you buy a car new or second hand you need to take into consideration how easy it will be to sell, depreciation etc not just run out and get your dream car then go "doh" when you find out a)u cant sell it b)it's halved in value.

FFEEkY
24-01-2006, 07:26 PM
Hmm... speaking of bad resale....

lexus sc400 new in 1991 would have been $140,000

same car today, $14,000

i think that 90% depreciation in 15 years is a little harsh

Righty
24-01-2006, 07:27 PM
Depreciation is a killer. Unless you can use as a tax dodge or as a company car I can't understand people buying new, especially if they sell 2 years later. I guess if they keep it for 10 years then it's not so bad. My mate bought a new WRX in june 2005 and sold it 3 weeks ago. So he had it for 6 months, drive away $41'990 and he sold it recently for 32'000. Thats a 10K loss in 7 months. Part of the reason was he got an auto WRX in ice blue colour, which is least popular. It had only done 25'000kms... anyway thats my 2 cents.
Well, we bought our VS commodore brand new in 1995 for i dunno, whatever they got for, 36 grand-ish? Sold it 10 years later for 2.5 grand :P But we got 10 solid years of use from it.

FFEEkY
24-01-2006, 07:29 PM
Depreciation is a killer. Unless you can use as a tax dodge or as a company car I can't understand people buying new, especially if they sell 2 years later. I guess if they keep it for 10 years then it's not so bad. My mate bought a new WRX in june 2005 and sold it 3 weeks ago. So he had it for 6 months, drive away $41'990 and he sold it recently for 32'000. Thats a 10K loss in 7 months. Part of the reason was he got an auto WRX in ice blue colour, which is least popular. It had only done 25'000kms... anyway thats my 2 cents.

the 10k loss in 7 months could be that it was on its way to do 40,000+kms in its first year... most cars might cover that in 2. some can take 5......

adz89
24-01-2006, 07:32 PM
The SC400 generally sells above $14k today but you are correct to say that it was around $140k new (not including on road costs). Though this car was a fantastic vehicle (& still is) its bad depreciation is largely due to the number of Toyota Soarers imported which are cheaper and most people see the cars as the same car (which they practically car) and if you can import a Soarer for $7-8k why would you pay $14-15k for one just for the 'L' on the front, rear and on the steering wheel?

FFEEkY
24-01-2006, 07:59 PM
The SC400 generally sells above $14k today but you are correct to say that it was around $140k new (not including on road costs). Though this car was a fantastic vehicle (& still is) its bad depreciation is largely due to the number of Toyota Soarers imported which are cheaper and most people see the cars as the same car (which they practically car) and if you can import a Soarer for $7-8k why would you pay $14-15k for one just for the 'L' on the front, rear and on the steering wheel?

because it is so much more than JUST an "L"

the "L" adds an experiance... the experiance that you only get when someone said, hey, lets put a v8, 4ws, rwd, traction control, abs, a super smooth super smart auto, hydros, and every luxury feature available at the time in the one car and then tune it all to run perfectly with each other better than anyone has ever done before. and! lets also put a hyper space button under the accelerator that allows the engine to go 1000rpm into redline and make some sort of banchii like howl while disconnecting the speed limiter for the driver to use if they so feel the need.

that is what lexus said at the time, and thats what they did, they created a car where you can put the steering on full lock and floor the biatch and it doesnt loose traction, it just keeps getting faster and faster and faster... almost on the same spot! (issac must be rolling round in his grave!)

however, you can daudle down to the corner store at 40k's an hour tops and not even notice your in the same car.

rex_man
24-01-2006, 09:22 PM
Nah it had done 25'000, I think the killer was that it was a naff colour and auto. If he'd got it in hatch version he probably would have never sold it!

FFEEkY
25-01-2006, 06:00 AM
Nah it had done 25'000, I think the killer was that it was a naff colour and auto. If he'd got it in hatch version he probably would have never sold it!

yes, thats correct, 25,000k's in 7 months.

thats over 3550k's/month

the equals 42,600k's per year. which is a lot of k's for a 1 year old car. see what im getting at? it may only be 25000 k's, but its 7 months old, not 2 years old.

Tim-E
25-01-2006, 11:23 AM
yes, thats correct, 25,000k's in 7 months.

thats over 3550k's/month

the equals 42,600k's per year. which is a lot of k's for a 1 year old car. see what im getting at? it may only be 25000 k's, but its 7 months old, not 2 years old.

but it hadnt done 42 000kms, it was on its way yeh, but didnt get there :nuts:

25 000kms in 7 months is only about 12000kms above average, big woop? Where as an auto WRX, now thats a concern lol