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Hydroxinol
24-01-2006, 07:54 PM
Hi Guys and Girls,

I was out taking photos of my Audio Install, and decided to take some more of my Cold Air Intake setup while I was at it.

Anyone with spare time on their hands should also think about creating a similar C.A.I setup for their own Carby TP. Colder air will improve fuel economy and will also help to keep the engine running more reliably; as the engine will not have to work as hard as it did before to produce the same result.

I installed a Weber 32/36 carby into my TP, so therefore I needed to get hold of an Aftermarket Air Filter with the right shaped base plate to fit ontop of the carby. I ended up getting a nice little rectangular redline air filter, problem with this is that it would be sucking all the hot air from the engine bay. So I decided to make my own C.A.I. :D

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/Hydroxinol/f8c8a3a0.jpg

The metal box on the top of the carby was made out of the sheet metal from one of those old computer case covers. I modeled the box on the dimensions of the Redline Air Filter and used its base plate to cut out the same shape on the bottom of my box. The box is placed ontop of the carby first, followed by the redline filter.
A hole was also made in the side for a small piece of PVC pipe to fit through.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/Hydroxinol/C.jpg

I fitted the rubber pipe that used to be connected to the existing Air Filter cover to the small piece of PVC pipe on the side of my box. I then connected the other end to pieces of PVC pipe, that I used along with some 90 degree pieces to direct the inlet snorkel below the car, and through that crappy plastic cover at the bottom.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/Hydroxinol/0a149096.jpg

Sorry if its hard to understand what I did. lol
Hopefully my general description and pics are enough to give ideas to those that are thinking of doing something similar. If you want more detail you can PM me. lol

Terrorsidic
24-01-2006, 08:26 PM
hope u dont catch the bottom part on a kerb :P

TM-Terror
24-01-2006, 08:37 PM
nice effort but i wouldnt place the air intake that low to the ground, you could easily run into a puddle scoop up some water and get a hydrualic lock in a cylinder which will destroy the engine. maybe also get another length of that flexible pvc pipe which looks good(from supacheap or similar) and join it to the current peice and run it to the front bumper/next to the radiator shroud instead?

ICUH8N
24-01-2006, 08:42 PM
Nice, two exhausts now :D

Hydroxinol
24-01-2006, 09:06 PM
hope u dont catch the bottom part on a kerb :P

I have scraped it on speed bumps and steep driveways quite a few times, if you look closely at the snorkle you can see that it is not perfectly round, and is slightly flat at the bottom. But it doesn't bother me, at least if it gets ground down it will have a larger surface area for sucking air :bowrofl:


nice effort but i wouldnt place the air intake that low to the ground, you could easily run into a puddle scoop up some water and get a hydrualic lock in a cylinder which will destroy the engine.

Yea, I am pretty worried about that. The day after I completed it, a fierce storm caught me unawares :D. It was heavy rain, and I even drove through some pretty deep puddles, but for some reason when I checked, the water did not make it all the way up the vertical PVC pipe piece. I have since been through alot of the same type of weather on many occasions, even hail, but it doesn't seem to get up the PVC pipe, maybe it isn't sucking very strong? :confused:
Maybe the fact that the snorkle is infront of the front wheels might play a part.

Hydroxinol
24-01-2006, 10:50 PM
...how does the car go without the anti polution pipes and exhaust pre heating i cant see that in the pics does it still have the short stop start problems ?

It goes great, I haven't noticed any differences at all in that department.



...just had an idea put in a computer cooling fan in at the black snorkle
or at the filter intake box you made

Thats a cool idea, I like. It would be like a homemade Hiclone thing :D

Although I doubt that a computer cooling fan on the filter box would be able to withstand the heat under the bonnet.

Gemini
24-01-2006, 10:51 PM
I was thinking of something like this for carbied 1st gens. I wish i had my camera so i can show you all my leet cai

Gemini
26-01-2006, 08:20 AM
i dont know how you got the pipe down between the gearbox and battery not much room


There is a hole infront of the battery (would have a plastic cap on it) and you can put the hose in it. I have done this with the hose you can get from super cheap but be warned, it takes because the hose is slightly bigger than the hole in the car.. I totally screwed my hand up and i couldnt move my fingers for a few hours

Bruno
26-01-2006, 10:31 AM
I like it, except for the intake. There are lots of very good reasons why they don't have intakes at ground level, there must be other options

D@ve
26-01-2006, 10:54 AM
i like it, its better then the stock one and i havent been able to find pics of a carbie CAI until now, good job.:D...........Why did i get the carbie 2nd gen :doubt:

mad lanté
26-01-2006, 02:21 PM
if your worryed about sucking up water, which i think youll find you will just get an air lock about 1/2 up the pipe which will cause the car to stall any way... but drill a mid sized hole on the first bend from ground up, then maybe a smaller one at the next bend, kinda like what vacuum cleaners have
also wheres your filter?

D@ve
26-01-2006, 02:36 PM
if your refering to me, its a ring air filter in the same place, i think its the same.

mad lanté
26-01-2006, 02:42 PM
nar i was talkin about Hydroxinols setup

Bruno
26-01-2006, 07:43 PM
What happens if you hit a big wet sloppy cow ****?
Or a mouse goes up there, then a snake after it?
It would be good it you could when you run over a cat it gets its collar caught?

D@ve
26-01-2006, 07:53 PM
i would run the cai behind some mesh and stuff. but i think i'll hold off of the cai until i make the body kit for the cai to sit behind.

Hydroxinol
26-01-2006, 08:23 PM
if your worryed about sucking up water, which i think youll find you will just get an air lock about 1/2 up the pipe which will cause the car to stall any way... but drill a mid sized hole on the first bend from ground up, then maybe a smaller one at the next bend, kinda like what vacuum cleaners have
also wheres your filter?

Sounds like a good idea to stop the water from coming up. But what sort of an effect would these holes have on the suction of the air? Wouldn't I lose the benefits of the CAI, as less air will be sucked in due to the loss of pressure? Similar to how holes in an exhaust pipe will reduce the amount of exhaust that can be extracted from the engine.

The filter is inside the rectangular box that sits ontop of the carby.




What happens if you hit a big wet sloppy cow ****?
Or a mouse goes up there, then a snake after it?
It would be good it you could when you run over a cat it gets its collar caught?

I agree that the snorkel on the end is abit of a risk :D. I was thinking of taking the last 90 degree PVC piece off, so that the CAI ends facing the road and cannot scoop anything up; but it hasn't given me any problems at all...yet, so I haven't been bothered to do it lol

Same reason why I haven't been bothered to protect the end of the pipe with a grill or mesh in order to stop things crawling up as D@ve suggested. lol

Terrorsidic
26-01-2006, 09:40 PM
Gemini, do you mean like this, but on the other side where the battery is?

http://terrorsidic.users.fatone.info/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=714&g2_serialNumber=2

mad lanté
26-01-2006, 10:57 PM
Sounds like a good idea to stop the water from coming up. But what sort of an effect would these holes have on the suction of the air? Wouldn't I lose the benefits of the CAI, as less air will be sucked in due to the loss of pressure? Similar to how holes in an exhaust pipe will reduce the amount of exhaust that can be extracted from the engine.

The filter is inside the rectangular box that sits ontop of the carby.

im only talkin like 2cm big holes
also you say loss of pressure?? what pressure, do u mean the pressure of suction?? i couldnt see it being a problem i mean the motors gonna suck the same amount up, and if u make the holes a different way to the way the airs flowing it wouldnt really matter i guess, you just want to make a diversion if theres a blockage

Hydroxinol
27-01-2006, 11:12 AM
im only talkin like 2cm big holes
also you say loss of pressure?? what pressure, do u mean the pressure of suction?? i couldnt see it being a problem i mean the motors gonna suck the same amount up

Yea, I was thinking of the pressure of suction, but was not sure on whether or not the loss of the pressure would have an impact. Although the small holes in the pipe would suck up warm air from the engine bay, I guess its a good compromise if it prevents any damage from occuring due to water being sucked up the pipe. I will think about doing it if the bad weather gives me a hint of trouble. Thanks for the tip

BEAKER
27-01-2006, 12:18 PM
Looks good
Hi people

I had a similar set-up on my Efi Tp
You shouldn’t have a problem with water unless the entire open end is submerged in a puddle. Its like trying to drink through a straw with a pinhole in it.

Dirt on the other hand, the first magna cruse I went on I found my self doing reverse doughnuts and when I went to take off I all my cai piping was full of dirt and grass.
Thank you K&N. lol
Apart from that time I had no troubles

Factory intakes are designed to extend service periods, cleaner air from the engine bay means longer filter life.

PeteW
27-01-2006, 08:45 PM
there is a difference between cold air intake and forced air with the scoop to the front like that u may get lean mixtures at speed my old efi setup run similar but no snorkal just facing the road then i went to removing the efi resinator box and use 83mm duct behind the headlight in front of the battery as its about cold air not forced air current setup seems to work better that the one ducted all the way to the splash plate