Just watched the news. Mitsubishi to cease production of the 380 for one month because of slow sales. Dissapointing to hear. They will be launching a new marketing campaign next week to boost sales..

Just watched the news. Mitsubishi to cease production of the 380 for one month because of slow sales. Dissapointing to hear. They will be launching a new marketing campaign next week to boost sales..
That's good news! let's keep our fingers crossed

Not suprising that sales are slow, the car performs well but my god it is ugly. I don't know what MMAL are thinking bringing out a car to replace the Magna series and making it as attractive as a hat full of a'holes. They were so close to getting it right with the tl if it wasn't for the headlights.

when series 2 come sout im sure they'll make an improvement, just like with what they have done to the toyota

Not suprising that sales are slow, the car performs well but my god it is ugly. I don't know what MMAL are thinking bringing out a car to replace the Magna series and making it as attractive as a hat full of a'holes. They were so close to getting it right with the tl if it wasn't for the headlights.
And that's your opinion, whereas i think it looks ok.

The 380 will have a bit of trouble with the Avaion, however, people will see that the 380 is a decent car, with a better setup, that looks ok (not great), but drives fantastically. The last time I drove a Toyota, the Camry that I drive had the worst drive of any car I had ever sat in. My Magna was MUCH better, and the 380 was better still. Hopefully, with the future relaunch, the future advertising campaign, will help the model.

Mitsubishi also need to look at making the GT and VRX trully sporty, with a better engine, and better running gear. From the rumors I have heard, AWD looks probable for the Ralliart, so the Series II AWD looks good. MMAL, PLEASE, reposition the 380 as a premium family car, not as a Falcodore, or Avaion.

Avaion

Aurion

Just watched the news. Mitsubishi to cease production of the 380 for one month because of slow sales. Dissapointing to hear. They will be launching a new marketing campaign next week to boost sales..bummer, but everyone saw it coming....

']when series 2 come sout im sure they'll make an improvement, just like with what they have done to the toyota
A series 2 won't be arriving any time soon.
BTW: In VRX form it looks fine to me, but I do agree that the basic 380 does look a little plain.

Just watched the news. Mitsubishi to cease production of the 380 for one month because of slow sales. Dissapointing to hear. They will be launching a new marketing campaign next week to boost sales..

I WAS talking about the 380 in this post! (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=452970&postcount=1) I don't see how anybody could possibly think that the numbers I posted were relating to new Toyota models.

FF

I dont like the cream steering wheel.... give me black anyday.

Aurion

I was merely combining the two names. I know what it is.

i think the car looks not to bad ... just overpriced

cease production forever?

don't worry sales will pick up --- they need to reduce the RRP when series 2 or 'update' model is released by around $2.5 - 3k on the base model and possibly change the lights.. giving a similar formation to the VRX and GT but make the lights red orange and white, but retain the sportier shape and skeleton like image (basically the same as VRX,GT but make them red and delete the tail) I think that would change ALOT of peoples epinion about the base models looks.

Interior actually isn't as bad as people think, I mean yeah it doesn't look as good as say, a Mercedes interior, but in comparison to the interior offered by the current Falcon, Commodore and Camry it beats them all hands down. Only the Maxima is up in the stakes in terms of interior essence, but the LX and GT is nearly on par.

Perhaps MMAL needs to look at ways to win over existing Mitsubishi Magna customers with promotions such as staff pricing etc. The more out there on the road the more interest it will generate.

What good is the 380 sitting in the freakin holding yards? :nuts:

they wont give staff pricing etc because that will drop the value of the 380.

The last time I drove a Toyota, the Camry that I drive had the worst drive of any car I had ever sat in. My Magna was MUCH better, and the 380 was better still.

If your dishing a v6 camry, especially the 98-2002 model, then your complaining about the lexus es300 suspension, drivetrain and floorplan chassis as well - although granted it is a bit soft.

Beware Toyota, they have the best build quality and reliability of all australian built cars, their sales are exceptional, they have a fully differentiated line up in every single market, bar high end prestige, and globally they have so much capital most analysts wonder why they havent bought out another of the big brands entirely (well, not really, most of the other big brands have junk share status).

The initial 380 launch didnt really ever overcome the status of the TL, I would suspect the biggest problem with sales is that the fleets are scared of MMAL undertaking discounting, I suspect dumping the awd has cost at least police car/govt sales, all this is before individual consumers questioning the going concern status of MMAL both locally and globally. Likewise, I'm sure MMAL have had their hands tied, with restrictive budgets set OS.

I'm also of the opinion their consumer market testing failed, especially in regards to the interior of the car. To constantly re-read reviews that complain that the rear vents can't be shut off, or the dash plastics are too hard and mismatch on the base models drives me insame. It would have been beneficial to have had this picked up prior to release.

Anyone who compares the Aurion to the 380 is off their heads. It's not even released yet. :nuts:

Anyone who compares the Aurion to the 380 is off their heads. It's not even released yet. :nuts:
True but on paper it appears to be some serious competition.

And that's your opinion, whereas i think it looks ok.

and working with them day in and day out.. it has grown on me to the point where i love the look of the rear end of them (only VRX's and GT's.. especially in red, black, electro blue and adrenaline :cool: )

hopefully their new advertising campaign will do it some good.. the first one was pretty crap..

While the 380 is out of my price range, and unless I get a job with one provided then it will be a while until I get my hands on one.

Some people have the belief that it is a Mitsubishi; therefore it is ugly.

I love its looks, mybe the front is a bit too much like a Commodore, but I thought that was to shut the people up that say it is not like a "real" Aust car.

And I love the rear, the lines make it quite European and I can't wait until MMC or private owners start painting them and dressing them up a bit.

I see there are quite a few Gov 380's on the road in Tassie now, and the more people see them I think (hope) will get used to their lines and like them.

Jusy my thoughts on the 380
Bruno

True but on paper it appears to be some serious competition.

It's paper though, it means nothing really...

Lets just wait and see. I dont think the Aurion has anything to worry about imho.

ON paper the Aurion looks heaps better than the 380, it even has a better name. lol

Disagree guys support da 380 u guys dish it abit too much
its a rockin car jus needs a cpl of mods n will be fine. How
come u guys up da toyota ****boxes so much, stuff that
u mitsubishi supporters here or what? Or is this da toyota
forum? Get on with it guys, **** toyota rock on mitsubishi
besides we've seen da 380, heaps of peeps have test
driven it, seen it, know mates who own em n co, da aurion
is jus a model n a show car which we all know never turns
out as good on da road, so we'll see n besides focus on da
upsides da 380's won da awards that matter in australia n
obviously fleet buyers like da commonwealth bank who bought
almost a 1000 of these babies feel da same about these n
for me thats all that matters go da 380....Mitsubishi for life

True, regardless of what Toyota make, they are always visually boring cars. The Aurion is classy, not sporty, with a nice interior. But still it's a Toyota and I wouldn't be seen dead in it. It's time to support MMAL and not think about how good or bad other brands' cars are.

If your dishing a v6 camry, especially the 98-2002 model, then your complaining about the lexus es300 suspension, drivetrain and floorplan chassis as well - although granted it is a bit soft.

Beware Toyota, they have the best build quality and reliability of all australian built cars, their sales are exceptional, they have a fully differentiated line up in every single market, bar high end prestige, and globally they have so much capital most analysts wonder why they havent bought out another of the big brands entirely (well, not really, most of the other big brands have junk share status).



While I agree with this post mostly and would have no problem getting a toyota for my missus, you wouldnt catch me owning one, they're the epitome of a shopping trolley, you don't have to think about them, they have no soul, they do the job etc - basically they're as much fun as an appliance and should wear the cardigan tag.

Also in re to reliability, they should be reliable, parts costs for toyotas are extortion - a CV joint for a mazda which costs $87 dollars for a similar sized toyota costs $140 and even with these prices Landcruisers have many many more breakages than their biggest competitor the Patrol - gearboxes and diffs being the main culprits.

I like the fact that toyotas always(try to) make strong cars, not tissue boxes like some other companies but I've yet to be in a toyota that was really inspiring, fast yes but fun - not compared to other makes.

Matthius - and yes I dish Lexus suspension, they're as inspiring as a toyota wrapped in a coffin :( although theres a ****load I haven't been in.

I don't see the 380's 175kw 3.8l V6 as inspiring when it produces 46.05kw/litre when the old 140kw 3.0l V6 prodcues 46.67kw/litre, fair to say that a older engine was more power efficient?

in anyway case, here is the break down of the competitors

Toyota Aurion 190kw, 3.5l V6 (double VVTi) stands at 54.25kw/litre
Holden Commodore 175kw, 3.6 V6 (48.61kw/litre) there higher performance 3.6 V6 (52.78kw/litre)
Ford Falcon 190kw, 4.0l straight 6 (47.5kw/litre)

i think its fair to say, based on the figures, MMAL hasn't quite got the nail on the head just yet, i hope their figures improve or they'd be looking like plain jane amongst the competitors.

I don't see the 380's 175kw 3.8l V6 as inspiring when it produces 46.05kw/litre when the old 140kw 3.0l V6 prodcues 46.67kw/litre, fair to say that a older engine was more power efficient?

in anyway case, here is the break down of the competitors

Toyota Aurion 190kw, 3.5l V6 (double VVTi) stands at 54.25kw/litre
Holden Commodore 175kw, 3.6 V6 (48.61kw/litre) there higher performance 3.6 V6 (52.78kw/litre)
Ford Falcon 190kw, 4.0l straight 6 (47.5kw/litre)

i think its fair to say, based on the figures, MMAL hasn't quite got the nail on the head just yet, i hope their figures improve or they'd be looking like plain jane amongst the competitors.

good post
toyota will probably have the best v6 on the block

I don't see the 380's 175kw 3.8l V6 as inspiring when it produces 46.05kw/litre when the old 140kw 3.0l V6 prodcues 46.67kw/litre, fair to say that a older engine was more power efficient?



Thats efficiency, you ever driven one ?
Like I said no fun, it really doesnt matter how fast something is - a jetliner travels fast, does it feel fun/fast ? nopes it's insulated from everything around it. Thats what most toyotas feel like, what I was talking about has no place on paper, on paper Honda would win everything.

Matthius

Thats efficiency, you ever driven one ?
Like I said no fun, it really doesnt matter how fast something is - a jetliner travels fast, does it feel fun/fast ? nopes it's insulated from everything around it. Thats what most toyotas feel like, what I was talking about has no place on paper, on paper Honda would win everything.

Matthius

if my car will beat the guy next to me, then it feels fast...