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Nexus
13-02-2006, 09:30 PM
I was quoted fitting Ferodo brake pads with Machining of the brakes for $195.00? For just the front and another $195 for rear from KMart. Is this alright or am I being ripped off as I havent done them yet. Is it required that we have our brakes machined?

Some quotes from you guys would help.
Thanks in Advance! Oh I am back in Perth.

Nexus

Dpack_1
13-02-2006, 09:35 PM
I was quoted fitting Ferodo brake pads with Machining of the brakes for $195.00? For just the front and another $195 for rear from KMart. Is this alright or am I being ripped off as I havent done them yet. Is it required that we have our brakes machined?

Some quotes from you guys would help.
Thanks in Advance! Oh I am back in Perth.

Nexus

If your replace brake pads because they're worn and not just to upgrade then its recommended to get the rotors turned, but no way in hell should you be paying 100 bucks per rotor! more like 10 or 20 per rotor!

Nexus
13-02-2006, 09:55 PM
sounds like KMart gave me ok price for machining as is about $50.00 a pair but the pads were like $90? Sounds like they are premium price.

Delphia
13-02-2006, 11:02 PM
My wrench quoted me $400 to do all 4 disks with pads and a brake line flush.

For $300 i got RDA slotted for the front with pads, do it all myself, it will end up costing the same amount, but i get a set of slotted rotors for my time.

SARRAS
14-02-2006, 04:55 AM
Go get a quote from your local Midas and or Ultratune, and with the Magnas, its more important (than machining) to get the pins on the sliding calipers re-greased. Machining disks is a bit of a furphy - there are technical arguements for and against it. Some places want to machine anyways but SPECIFICALLY ask about the Caliper pin re-greasing - if they give you the 'What?' treatment, go elsewhere.

magnus
14-02-2006, 05:05 AM
200 about normal price

make sure they are machined on the car not off

mysti
14-02-2006, 05:46 AM
200 about normal price

make sure they are machined on the car not off

Why is that?

magnus
14-02-2006, 08:45 AM
about 45 each disc
between 60 and 90 lab per hr
front dics pads 60

Ol' Fart
14-02-2006, 08:50 AM
My old falcon is almost up to 300,000 and its never had the disks machined. I'm just about to replace em now. If they aint grooved or have a big lip on em, why bother. Once they have been machined a couple of times they are under thickness, sometimes I think a lot of brake places just machine em for the money, not for any sound reason. :)

For the price you've been quoted you could probly replace the lot (non slotted) yourself. :)

Meh thats my 2 cents worth.

Righty
14-02-2006, 03:59 PM
I just paid about $260 for new front breaks and machined discs.. seemed a bit pricey, but what can ya do :doubt:

SteveTJ
14-02-2006, 05:37 PM
If any of you guys are In Brisbane, check out Slacks Creek Brake and CLutch, they do Bendix Ultimates for $90 front axle set for the Magna and most others by the way. WHen I got mine for my last car, Autobahn were selling the ultimates for $135 axle set, 50 % more than ScBC. They did rda std rotors for my GTS4 for $75 each.

Nexus
14-02-2006, 05:41 PM
thanks for the help guys, at least I got some ideas about the prices, and more info about machining the brakes

teK--
14-02-2006, 06:02 PM
Why is that?

When you remove the discs, you are machining the frictional surface in reference to the disc hat. When you fit the disc to the car's wheel hub, the lateral runout of the hub must then be matched with the runout on the disc hat using a dial gauge, otherwise you might as well not machine at all. A lot of shops don't use the dial gauge technique as it can add some 10mins to each corner of the car. If you machine with the disc on the car, then you are machining the frictional surface in referance to the wheel hub, which means he effective lateral runout will be much closer to 0.

FFEEkY
14-02-2006, 06:29 PM
I was quoted fitting Ferodo brake pads with Machining of the brakes for $195.00? For just the front and another $195 for rear from KMart. Is this alright or am I being ripped off as I havent done them yet. Is it required that we have our brakes machined?

Some quotes from you guys would help.
Thanks in Advance! Oh I am back in Perth.

Nexus


That is a good price for bendix/lucas.... not ferodo. dont go ferodo is you like to use your brakes, you'll regret it when they fade away just as you need them......

Nexus
14-02-2006, 08:45 PM
That is a good price for bendix/lucas.... not ferodo. dont go ferodo is you like to use your brakes, you'll regret it when they fade away just as you need them......

ok...but I have heard same thing about using bendix as well.... I am only a normal user for brake pads, and I am no racer. Maybe I should try ultratune to see what are their prices like too.

Bruno
15-02-2006, 05:08 AM
Unless you are racing the car why bother?
I have replaced quite a few brake pads over the years and the only time I have had the disk machined was in an XD Falcon because they were warped, so what if they have a few marks on them, the pads will wear into those groves PDQ.

Leo11
15-02-2006, 01:06 PM
No need to machine the discs unless they are warped, badly grooved or badly worn. In most cases it is just extra work to make more money from the job.

Nexus
15-02-2006, 06:08 PM
thanks for the extra info dudes, I really had no idea if machining was a necessity as they could always tell you that you should always do it.

kempeowen
15-02-2006, 06:55 PM
A few years ago i put my car in for a re-line.
Went shopping and trotted back round after a few hours and the brakes were in bits.
He said he tried to machine the discs and there was no "meat" left, basically they were below minimum specs.
I wonder if they really needed machined as there was no vibration or anything
Had no option but to approve getting 4 new rotors and had to go shopping for another few hours.
Needless to say never went back there again, but it had a bonus.
Got myself a workshop manual and just about do every job myself now :cool:

magnus
15-02-2006, 07:40 PM
When you remove the discs, you are machining the frictional surface in reference to the disc hat. When you fit the disc to the car's wheel hub, the lateral runout of the hub must then be matched with the runout on the disc hat using a dial gauge, otherwise you might as well not machine at all. A lot of shops don't use the dial gauge technique as it can add some 10mins to each corner of the car. If you machine with the disc on the car, then you are machining the frictional surface in referance to the wheel hub, which means he effective lateral runout will be much closer to 0.

in english ..machining on the car stops brake peddel and steering wheel shaking