I did a Search on the Topic and when my Tax return comes in this year I am looking at Getting my 6G72 Extracted and a K&N Panel Filter, So my Question is

Who Make the Best Value for Money ??

Who Make the Most in expensive ( They will be more then likely the ones I go for)

Do you think $1500 Should cover it ??

UPE (Ultimate Performance Exhausts) came on a while ago if my memory serves... they quoted $565 for Pacemakers for AMC members.

I don't know about you, but that's the lowest price I've seen.

umm dont phillcom do them cheaper at around $400+???

umm dont philcom do them cheaper at around $400+???

Is that fitted?

nope....

if you do a search on ebay pacemakers vary from $433-$475 that is the cheapest i have seen pacemakers for. I think EZ BOY does wildcats for $550 fitted.

Cheapest would be Anthony for pacemakers at around $400+ freight, then around $150 for fitting. Arm yourselves with those prices, goto an exhaust shop and see if they can beat it. If they can, your doing well, if not, you still have yourself a better price.

Anthony would probably be the cheapest for panels as well. Nobody could match his price for my pod.

Yeah Pacies from Anthony are the way to go!

He was gonna do it for me for $410, but I was able to source them myself for cheaper. Otherwise I would've bought from Phillcom Rally.

you will have to check with anthony but he was by FAR the cheapest for pacemakers when i bought mine, expect to pay around $150 for fitting

I had mine installed for $520 by accident (They didn't know what to charge me as they hadn't worked on a Magna before) but you would be hard pressed to get it done by a zorst shop for less than $550 for Pacey's I hear these days... I'd still push for a cheaper install.

Some people install themselves but I personally wouldn't.

I dont think my Gorilla sized mits would fit behind the Back of the engine to undo the Bolts..

More then likely I will go with Wildcat..

Pacemakers are generally the best value for money.

As far as I know, the most expensive (excluding customised fabrication) are RPW race spec headers, and you can make them extra expensive by getting them HPC coated. From memory, the headers themselves come in at $660, the HPC coating takes the package up to around $1,100.

$1,500 should more than cover the cost of freighting these headers to your door, and fitment by a local exhaust shop. This is the option I chose, and everyone who's seen my engine bay has commented on the quality of the headers.

Important to note that both pacemakers and RPW race spec headers are designed for 3.5L engines. They still fit 3.0L engines, as many members will verify - but with the issue of hanging lower because of the 3.0L's shorter block. I'd also like to add that the front bank of the RPW race spec headers are now the lowest point on my 3.5L, and have had the misfortune to scrape them a couple of times (with only kings low springs all round).

*edit* - it's been a long day................ I see now that you also want k&n panel filter included in $1500 budget, and you will most likely get the most inexpensive....... so you can pretty much disregard everything I've said above.

do your research before deciding on wildcats, i'd go paccies or get a custom job done

Pacemaker

Pacemaker are the only Australian header manufacturer to produce their products with pipe over cone design. With pipe over cone design there are no protruding pipes inside the collector cone. The result is better gas flow and increased horse power.

Precision cut and machined thick flanges to eliminate leaks and warpage

Emission hookups provided where applicable

Primary pipes fitted through the flanges

Heat proof tested to 1270°

Secondary and outlet pipes fitted over primary and outlet cones


Wildcat

All Wildcat Headers are designed to give maximum performance but still maintain cost effectiveness as a full replacement manifold, Wildcat Headers are made with the same attitude to quality as our Genie Header range.

800°c High Temp Coating - subtle metallic grey colour - long term anti-corrosive benefits

All Wildcat Headers are pressure tested to ensure they have NO air leaks

Press bent primary & secondary pipes designed to minimise crushing of tube



This is a bit of info i found just then, also note pacemakers use mandrel bends not press.

I researched pretty much every extractor for magnas, and pacies were my hcoice. 1 1/2" diameter primaries which are very long, mandrel bent, through hole welded (not butt welded) at a VERY good price. They're hard to beat on performance vs price.

I have specs on a lot of the extractors with pics as well....I'll post them up one day when I get a round to it.

From memory the wildcats didn't have very long primaries

UPE (Ultimate Performance Exhausts) came on a while ago if my memory serves... they quoted $565 for Pacemakers for AMC members.

I don't know about you, but that's the lowest price I've seen.
we do pacemakers at work (autobarn mildura) for $550 the only thing that would be different would be freight, and usually, i can arrange to have them shipped direct to your door, rather then them coming from me in mildura.

if anyone is interested, lemmie know

we do pacemakers at work (autobarn mildura) for $550 the only thing that would be different would be freight, and usually, i can arrange to have them shipped direct to your door, rather then them coming from me in mildura.

if anyone is interested, lemmie know
the $565 from UPE WAS fitted

For the 3.0 model vehicles, as I have always said the Pacemaker design is the best with its smaller 1 1/2" primary pipes. The RPW race series, with its larger diameter of 1 5/8" primary pipes are too large for the 3.0 motors.

Can't comment on the wildcats other than they are not a tuned length system and mandrel bent not the best combination for a V6 engine.

Also just had a new batch of headers arrive - have some more RPW 4wd Race design systems in stock again for those with the 4wd models.

And also note - the TL model magna on Mitsubish has changed the sump pan and added some extra webbing. We recently found that our street design, and probbaly the pacemakers although can't confirm the pacemakers were fouling on the sump pan. Our RD series fitted okay but only just cleared this extra webbing.

I had mine installed for $520 by accident (They didn't know what to charge me as they hadn't worked on a Magna before) but you would be hard pressed to get it done by a zorst shop for less than $550 for Pacey's I hear these days... I'd still push for a cheaper install.

Some people install themselves but I personally wouldn't.

They really arent that hard to install on the V6, whether that be the 6G74 or the 6G72, its simply 7 bolts on the front and 7 bolts on the rear of the motor, torqued to spec or if you dont have a torque wrench then hand tight and an extra turn or two with a 1ft bar. Just make sure you use new gaskets as exhaust gaskets can not be reused or else you'll have a leak that will screw with your O2 sensors.

you will have to check with anthony but he was by FAR the cheapest for pacemakers when i bought mine, expect to pay around $150 for fittingDoubt it..



Hi All,
Ive sourced the wholesaler for Pacemakers here in Melbourne.
Magnum Performance
18 Mickle Street, Dandenong South
03 9706 6554
You can pick up a set of PH9370 Pacemakers for $348.21 +GST = $383.03
If you have a Pacemaker wholesaler in your city (which everyone does) you can get them for the above price or most likely cheaper now.

O and the people im quoting above will Courier to anywhere in Australia.. (melbourne it costs $10)

To the Originating Poster:
More expensive doesnt necessarily mean better..

Bain what do you doubt about 150 for fitment ? 2 hours labour = 150 ? sounds about right ?
of course bafoon lol

Also, to the original poster, you could get your whole exhaust system done for $1500, which might be worth considering


later :cool:

Bain what do you doubt about 150 for fitment ? 2 hours labour = 150 ? sounds about right ?
of course bafoon lol
He doubts Anthony being the cheapest. Thing is, I think there was a price rise or two between him buying them and now but the other dude could still be cheaper.


To the Originating Poster:
More expensive doesnt necessarily mean better..

Definately. It's stupid to put your money down on something juse because it's the most expensive.

what brand does anthony sell? you may have mentioned it but im on dog watch and im not thinking

Pacemaker and RPW

Well for $1500 I will be designing a Simple Yet effective System
I intend to use Headers, Y Piece into a Cat, Run a Single Central Hotdog then Split it again into two Rear Mufflers.

I Designed my last Exhaust for my Mondeo , only it was a 4 and not a 6 an whilst it Did Increase top end , it didnt loose any at the bottom and this is what I am hoping will happen with the Magna...
( I had to design the Exhaust as No one had ever done a Dual exit System on a mondeo in Australia, mine was a first)

I am not running a Full Duel System as Two Cats , Two Centrals and Piping will send the system out of my Allocated Budget..

Why don't you just get Pacemakers? It will save a lot of money, heaps of time, they are a proven performer and you won't have the issues that can come with custom headers. Realistically, they will give you probably the same gains that anything 'custom' (because custom is sic - year right) will give you.

(And don't answer 'to be different, everyone has Pacemaker', that's just another silly ideal)

Food for thought: a car with 240+ kW at the hoops has a 2.5l exhaust, Pacemakers and the stock induction.

Why don't you just get Pacemakers? It will save a lot of money, heaps of time, they are a proven performer and you won't have the issues that can come with custom headers. Realistically, they will give you probably the same gains that anything 'custom' (because custom is sic - year right) will give you.

(And don't answer 'to be different, everyone has Pacemaker', that's just another silly ideal)

Food for thought: a car with 240+ kW at the hoops has a 2.5l exhaust, Pacemakers and the stock induction.

What car would that be? Im saving for some pacyes at the moment, hope I will get a noticeable increase because I honestly felt no difference with my exhaust.

And also note - the TL model magna on Mitsubish has changed the sump pan and added some extra webbing. We recently found that our street design, and probbaly the pacemakers although can't confirm the pacemakers were fouling on the sump pan. Our RD series fitted okay but only just cleared this extra webbing.

Interesting. As I've just had a service at my Mitsubishi dealer and they found a leak on the engine sump. Not sure whether it was to do with the fitting of my pacemakers recently..:confused: Anyhow they fixed it as part of the warranty...

Doubt it..



nice to see your still your blunt self bain...

what do you doubt? anthony being the cheapest?

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15443

for the record i payed $17 more than you(my price included freight) and my money went to a bloke that has givin me outstanding service in the past...