Hi all...

I need a new clutch (Thanks to Heathcote lol) - so far the cheapest I found was from a brand called PBR....does anyone know this manufacturer?

Thanks!

from wat iv heard they are good. if that helps.

Hi all...

I need a new clutch (Thanks to Heathcote lol) - so far the cheapest I found was from a brand called PBR....does anyone know this manufacturer?

Thanks!
How much is "cheap" Chan? Make sure they quote you on the right clutch. Mine is a 11/97 build and it is right on the changeover from push to pull type clutches. The pull type ones are @ $300 dearer for the kit.:shock:

How much is "cheap" Chan? Make sure they quote you on the right clutch. Mine is a 11/97 build and it is right on the changeover from push to pull type clutches. The pull type ones are @ $300 dearer for the kit.:shock:


Yeah...I already found that out....

I have Pull Type...AU$ 455plus !

Yeah...I already found that out....

I have Pull Type...AU$ 455plus !
The pull type ones have a higher clamping force (so im told). I dont think you will get much change out of $900...:cry:

The pull type ones have a higher clamping force (so im told). I dont think you will get much change out of $900...:cry:

sucks...but I dont really have much choice now, do I?

OH...and you will have to edit your signature on Tuesday! hehe

OH...and you will have to edit your signature on Tuesday! hehe
Will do! Let me know how it goes:D

Alright....

Frag it.....getting it done Wednesday.....for heaps and heaps of cash :cry:

"What to do??"

Alright....

"What to do??"

Learn to change gears......or drive the car the way it was made to be driven :P

Learn to change gears......or drive the car the way it was made to be driven :PMy thoughts exactly.;)

Oh, and don't do things you can't afford. I can't afford a speeding ticket, so I don't speed. Just wish I knew if I was speeding.:redface:

Umm...."Yes":nuts:

Don't mind me, Chantra. I wish I had a clutch.:cry:

Am I forgiven?:doubt:

Learn to change gears......or drive the car the way it was made to be driven :P
At 200000 kms one would think that the clutch would be close to expiring. Wouldnt one? Especially if it was the original. Chan was showing some expert driving considering that he hadnt done the 1/4 mile before...:slap:

for $455ex you should eb able to get a heavy duty clutch NOT FITTED
abotu $200-250 for fitting

i would spend a little more and get a custom made clutch approx. 2400 pounds force
i got mine for $650 full kit, cheaper if you supply pressure plate and $200 fitting

Standard is about 1600pounds of force

Yes PBR have been around a long time, 40 yrs or more.

At 200000 kms one would think that the clutch would be close to expiring. Wouldnt one? Especially if it was the original. Yes, quite. Explain things simply to me and I understand. I just assume you guys are too hard on the clutch.:D

Chan was showing some expert driving considering that he hadnt done the 1/4 mile before...:slap: Hey Chantra, did you learn to drive in Germany? I've heard they're pretty unforgiving in Europe.:think:

Hey Chan sorry to hear about your clutch. What did you run down the quater??

i was quoted $700 for a daikin heavy duty and $1070 for a extreme super heavy duty clutch, im to hard on my cars so i'll be going with the extreme clutch and a fully streghtned box a the one i have is kinda broken.

i had mine done about a month or somethin ago. cost me $950 fitted.

the te onwards are the pull types, which are more expensive to do, more labour intensive, plus the kit costs more too.

see my recent story at

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29113

good luck.:D :D

The new clutch I'm getting is costing me $595, I'm fitting it myself (not that hard, just time consuming).

I'm going a top line Exedy (before you get into the jap made ones which are ludicrously expensive...and they're not available for the magna anyway)

$900 is Chum Change... Try $2400 for a Mondeo Clutch

The Mondeo had to have the K Frame and Strut Bars underneath removed and replaced as the Whole Gearbox had to come out as well as the Exhaust... Now you know why I sold it..

Imported Cars are too expensive for Parts.., the Mondeo was a great car but Way too expensive for Parts...

Fitting clutch today (well- getting it fitted)

Going for standard aftermarket clutch (Need money for other mods)- thanks heaps for all the feedback guys!

@ MaxMum- LOL all good

@ Wrexed: check ma signature, man! 15.303 :D

Phew!:dancin:

Can someone explain to me the difference between getting a new clutch and having a rebuild, please?

Puck is getting a rebuild and his price is like what you guys are saying new.:confused:

@ mum :D


I gather "rebuild" refers to changing the actual clutch plates only - keeping the rest as is.
We commonly did that back in Europe....changing a clutch plate takes 30 minutes and costs a fraction of the complete kit.
Bad part - The pressure is generated in the clutch cylinder (or whatever u call it here) - a new clutch plate usually only gives "temporary relief"

Hope that helped! :doubt:

Puck's must be more involved than that. It's taking days to get fixed. Maybe he'll tell us about it when it's done.:doubt:

I think I'll have to ask Glenn to change my username.:redface:

i got a full button clutch for 700 bucks extreme hahaha no slip cause you cant ride it

How much is "cheap" Chan? Make sure they quote you on the right clutch.



Took me 3 days to get me a clutch for mine.. all the clutch places had the wrong details in there computer.. make sure all the measurements are right.. thats the only way we got mine.. mitsubishi changed the clutch a few times in most models..:)

Got that hard i just went to mitsubishi to get one and from what i heard they are PBR clutch re stamped mits..

genuine mitsu cluches are daiken

...I gather "rebuild" refers to changing the actual clutch plates only - keeping the rest as is.
We commonly did that back in Europe....changing a clutch plate takes 30 minutes and costs a fraction of the complete kit.
Bad part - The pressure is generated in the clutch cylinder (or whatever u call it here) - a new clutch plate usually only gives "temporary relief"...My clutch is getting rebuilt at the moment - should be finished today.
Included in (Clutch Kit) rebuild is...
- Cover / Pressure Plate
- Drive Plate
- Thrust Bearing.

Should I do the Clutch Cylinder too? ...and is this something that needed to be done while the clutch was out or can be done afterwards? - given my clutch will probably be back together within an hour or so - I hope I don't need it or it can be done afterwards.

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Puck's must be more involved than that. It's taking days to get fixed. Maybe he'll tell us about it when it's done.The only reason it took days is because we were waiting on a new pressure plate.
My mechanic advised me to get an RPM Clutch (coz that's what he usually uses - not because they are better or worse than others). But we were kept waiting on the pressure plate for 4 days before the stockist finally said oops we don't have any in stock. :redface: RPM are apparently redesigning it and have none of the old ones in stock. :confused: So now I'm getting a Heavy duty Daikin/Exedy Clutch. Part arrived 2mins ago (woo hoo) should be ready this afternoon. :D

For the record, the options I was given were...
RPM or Daikin/Exedy Clutch...
- Standard Clutch: approx. $270-$330
- Heavy Duty Clutch (HD Pressure Plate): approx. $400
- Button Clutch (HD Pressure Plate & Buttons etc.): approx. $675
Fitting: approx. $230-$250
However I did call one place who quoted $475 for fitting - so I'm quite happy with my mechanic's price (if it stays there).

I had a standard clutch when I first bought the car.
I replaced it with a RPW Button Clutch when I did the rebuild about 2 years ago.
So this time I'm gonna try a Heavy Duty (non-button) clutch.

I'll post up the final costs and what I think about the clutch when I have the car back.

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The new clutch I'm getting is costing me $595, I'm fitting it myself (not that hard, just time consuming).
I'm going a top line Exedy...Your getting your clutch done too :shock: - When did yours fail/start to fail ? I think you got yours about a month or two before mine. What type of Exedy clutch are you getting this time?

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I think I'll have to ask Glenn to change my username.hmmm, maybe 'MAXiMUM' / 'MaXiMuM' - as in the highest, upper limit, extreme, etc. while still retaining a bit of your previous name? :think:

dude 475 for a clutch fitments a bit steep but 250 good price

Your getting your clutch done too :shock: - When did yours fail/start to fail ? I think you got yours about a month or two before mine. What type of Exedy clutch are you getting this time?

It failed on the 27th Dec on the way home from a mates place lol

I'm going to get the heavy duty cushioned button, its one the newest exedy ones made as the last step before going to a full button clutch...if you want I can see if I can get one for you mate? My friend works at auto pro...gets me discounts :D

Heavy Duty Cushion Button Kit: MBK-6411HDCB

http://www.exedy.com.au/catalogue-details.asp?id=38999699

http://www.exedy.com.au/products2.asp?type=sports%20tuff

"CUSHIONED BUTTON SPORTS CLUTCH
The cushioned button line is our newest sports clutch line and is recommended for use in moderately tuned vehicles that are driven on a daily basis.

This product utilises the positive aspects of an extremely durable ceramic material which has the capacity to transmit increased engine torque while maintaining a relatively comfortable engagement feeling attributed to the unique process of attaching the ceramic material to the clutch plate segment or marcel.

To complement these unique clutch plates, our cushioned button clutch kits are also supplied with high performance clutch cover assemblies with increased clamp loads."

hmmm, maybe 'MAXiMUM' / 'MaXiMuM' - as in the highest, upper limit, extreme, etc. while still retaining a bit of your previous name? :think:Actually, I cringe when some of the guys call me Mum. Thinking more along the lines of Chicky-Babe.;)

re: clutch - hope it works perfectly without getting the cylinder done.:)

...I'm going to get the heavy duty cushioned button, its one the newest exedy ones made as the last step before going to a full button clutch...if you want I can see if I can get one for you mate? My friend works at auto pro...gets me discounts...oops too late - she's already in (or will be within the next couple of hours). maybe next time :redface: - please not within the next few years :pray:



Actually, I cringe when some of the guys call me Mum. Thinking more along the lines of Chicky-Babe.Nah - you could be the official AMC Mum :bowrofl:
(but I think there's a few of the 'female with children' variety on AMC already, so you may have a fight on your hands for that prestigious title).

Hey Chantra, did you learn to drive in Germany? I've heard they're pretty unforgiving in Europe.:think:

Actually....I got my license in Sri Lanka when I was 15 (it works over there).

Transferred it to German one in ....um.....1987 I think...and transferred that to an OZ one 2 months ago!

I never really "learned" to drive in a driving school or anything like that.
<Now THAT should explain it! :D )

But to put you all at ease:
I have driven well over 500.000 km in my life....WITH clutch :badgrin:

My clutch is getting rebuilt at the moment - should be finished today.
Included in (Clutch Kit) rebuild is...
- Cover / Pressure Plate
- Drive Plate
- Thrust Bearing.
Should I do the Clutch Cylinder too? ...and is this something that needed to be done while the clutch was out or can be done afterwards? - given my clutch will probably be back together within an hour or so - I hope I don't need it or it can be done afterwards.
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The only reason it took days is because we were waiting on a new pressure plate.
My mechanic advised me to get an RPM Clutch (coz that's what he usually uses - not because they are better or worse than others). But we were kept waiting on the pressure plate for 4 days before the stockist finally said oops we don't have any in stock. RPM are apparently redesigning it and have none of the old ones in stock. :confused: So now I'm getting a Heavy duty Daikin/Exedy Clutch. Part arrived 2mins ago (woo hoo) should be ready this afternoon. :D
For the record, the options I was given were...
RPM or Daikin/Exedy Clutch...
- Standard Clutch: approx. $270-$330
- Heavy Duty Clutch (HD Pressure Plate): approx. $400
- Button Clutch (HD Pressure Plate & Buttons etc.): approx. $675
Fitting: approx. $230-$250
However I did call one place who quoted $475 for fitting - so I'm quite happy with my mechanic's price (if it stays there).
I had a standard clutch when I first bought the car.
I replaced it with a RPW Button Clutch when I did the rebuild about 2 years ago.
So this time I'm gonna try a Heavy Duty (non-button) clutch.
I'll post up the final costs and what I think about the clutch when I have the car back.


Okay, I said I'd post again when the clutch was done - so here goes...

CLUTCH UPDATE...
Car took way too long to fix - but it wasn't the Clutch Mechanic's fault - he was waiting on the parts.
Prices were a bit off too.
At first the Clutch Kit came invoiced to him at $675.
I said WHAT!!! :rant: - I could buy the Exedy Button Clutch for that much.
But after a phone call or two he managed to argue his supplier down to $550. I hate being in the country sometimes - limited places to buy things - don't get the buying power of the city.
I still know $550 was too much for the clutch but it's better than $675.
At least his labour charge was correct.

Anyway, now it's all back in and feels great!
The mechanic also informed me that it's a HOT PINK clutch - not that you can see it anyway lol - it's just Exedy's way of telling it's a Heavy Duty/Performance one.

ENGINE UPDATE
Then my car went to a new (recommended) Mechanic to get the engine checked. It's been blowing a bit of smoke for a while and I've been worried for a while. Last mechanic I went to GUESSED it'd be the rings - so complete engine rebuild ($$$$).

Had some good news tho. My engine is good. "Great" for it's age.
Only needs Valve Seals to fix the exhaust smoke issue.
Which is good news (a lot cheaper than replacing the engine).
He said that it'd be a waste of money to do anything serious to it now - the Magna V6 engines are pretty bullet proof and mine tested great - still very strong. he said given good servicing (oil change every 5K) - he wouldn't be surprised if I got 500K+ from it (it's done 340K now).

However, while it's good news and my wallet let out a big sigh, I sort of started lookin forward to having oversized pistons and a higher compression modified engine (which is what I would have replaced it with). - oh well.

Might investigate the timing belt as well, this is not a cheap thing to do but looking at other threads here on AMC - it's something to should consider doing about every 100K. I've owned the car for 60-70K and not sure when it was last done. Also when these belts go - it's bye bye engine (so I'm told).

Anyway, I'm going to book it in for the engine tune & valve seals (and maybe timing belt ?) soon. So the Puck-Wagon should be purring smoothly again soon :D .