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KH_BNE
29-10-2003, 06:29 PM
I recently bought a K&N pod for my KH Verada i got an adapter for it that has a 3 inch circle that mounts straight onto the air flow meter. After running it for a month i was blowing black smoke and my car was running rougher. I took it to a mechanic who said that i stuffed my O2 sensor and needed another one. He ended up replacing all my spark plugs as well as the O2 sensor saying that my pod stuffed it because it was not fully open on the air flow meter. After driving it home and stalling it about 15 times i am not sure what is going on. I am going to ring the guys tomorrow and talk to them. they said my pod is not suitable for my car? Any ideas would be great?

EuroAccord13
29-10-2003, 06:34 PM
Some are going to say that the POD you got is wrong and it needs to be the OVAL one... Not True... I've used different PODS before and had no such problems...

Your car is an auto right? Maybe it could be something else that is stuffing up the air flow sensor. One of my cars had this problem and it turned out that there was a piece of "dirt" stuck on the sensor....


CHEERS

Killbilly
29-10-2003, 06:37 PM
Yeah I've heard that the round ones are fine as well. Sam6G72 has used a round one on his Diamante and never had a prob. I've also heard of plenty of 3000GT guys that use a round pod on their cars which have the same MAS sensor as the TR/TS range.

KH_BNE
29-10-2003, 06:55 PM
My car was blowing a shitload of smoke at about 2000 revs and up i was freaking, now i got my standard air box back on after taking it in today and it stalled about 15 times on the way home the mechanic said that my computer has to register the difference and that this will be normal

cthulhu
29-10-2003, 07:13 PM
On the other hand this is exactly the problem that a non MAS friendly pod is supposed to cause, isn't it?

NVRMND
29-10-2003, 07:19 PM
take ur negative battery terminal off and reset ur ecu ;)

KH_BNE
29-10-2003, 07:29 PM
Good point i think that i might just get an oval pod. Now that my car has the standard air box back on it seems to be running even worse though. Does my computer need to adapt or do i still have a problem

KH_BNE
29-10-2003, 07:30 PM
If i do that how long will it take for my ECU to be runnung right?

NVRMND
29-10-2003, 07:39 PM
it should go back to default settings. Leave ur negative terminal off for a few minutes then put it back on. Then ur ecu is back to default.. happens every time i am installing shit in my car.

EuroAccord13
29-10-2003, 07:40 PM
Try NVRMND's suggestion but with the POD you have now and see what happens... I think it's generally down to slowly narrowing out the problem..

CHEERS

KH_BNE
29-10-2003, 07:45 PM
Yeah the adaptor for the pod is circular and the air sensor is kinda an oval shape so i am blocking off some of the air sensor would that be stuffing up the air intake

Killbilly
29-10-2003, 08:23 PM
It's true that these probs are what the wrong pod can cause yes.

I was just saying that I've heard mixed reports on the use of circular ones.

TBuTcher
29-10-2003, 08:40 PM
I have a round POD on my 3.5l ... however it is a 5" dia... not 3"
so there is no part that is covering over the honeycomb section.

I would remove it and get either an oval or a large round like mine.... (If you wanted to keep a POD)

I reckon it could have caused problems since you are running the MAS at only 60% or so... by having the 3" round...

To reset the ECU I have heard you need at least 15 min disconnected ... not just a minute or two.

Haydn

Redav
29-10-2003, 08:48 PM
Also, if it's the 3.5, it will probably prompt you to tell it what size engine you have. Someone else on a Lancer forum was saying their pod caused their cat to die something fierce. Can't see how that happens. What colour smoke is it?

Sam6G72
30-10-2003, 01:22 AM
It's obviously not the round filter that is cuasing problems if your car is running even worse with the stock air box back on.

Mitsiman
30-10-2003, 08:57 AM
For those interested

Firstly, it will be the pod which initially caused the problem of running rich. What has happened is that the air flow meter has got confused and has run between very rich to very lean.

Now teh reason why its still running badly is more than likely because the spark plugs are all coated up as well as you may have also damaged both the cat converter and oxygen sensor.

If any of the above three or combined are not working correctly anymore then the car will not run properly.

My suggestion start with basics - go replace all teh spark plugs again, then remove your O2 sensor and make sure its not coated black. If it is replace it and then move onto and check yoru cat converter.

And finally, as I have always said 90% of cars in the mitsubishi range will have probelms with a non oval shaped MAF sensor adapter system.

the 10% that don't are generally modifeid cars that like the extra fuel or the car is running lean to start with which is not uncommen from mitsubishi.

The thing i absoloutly garauntee with the oval filters we sel and use is you will never have the above problems again.

MagnaArt
30-10-2003, 09:14 AM
I've got a circular pod,but have the hexagonal adaptor to fit on perfectly on to the Sensor.
Everything's been fine,so what has happened to you KH_BNE,is really strange,considering you have a K+N Pod,which is well suited to magnas :?
Very odd
Sorry to hear man,good luck in fixing it too 8)

TBuTcher
30-10-2003, 09:53 AM
I've got a circular pod,but have the hexagonal adaptor to fit on perfectly on to the Sensor.
Everything's been fine,so what has happened to you KH_BNE,is really strange,considering you have a K+N Pod,which is well suited to magnas :?
Very odd
Sorry to hear man,good luck in fixing it too 8)
But what size is the opening on yours?
As I have said I have a 5" diameter... so it is outside the edges of the MAS...
The problem from above is with a 3" dia POD

Haydn

MagnaArt
30-10-2003, 01:18 PM
It covers the whole MAS area(Honeycomb bit)
then goes into a circular shape into the pod.
Not sure how big it is maybe 3-4"
not sure sorry