Can Anyone tell me where I can buy Lucas Brake Pads from? I live in the Chatswood area and non of the auto shops (Auto One, Repco, Auto Barn) sell them :confused: . Otherwise I'm gonna have to go to buy Bendix unless someone can recommend something for my TE Magna?

Thanks

Try a brake and suspension joint mate. See how you go :)

Can Anyone tell me where I can buy Lucas Brake Pads from? I live in the Chatswood area and non of the auto shops (Auto One, Repco, Auto Barn) sell them :confused: . Otherwise I'm gonna have to go to buy Bendix unless someone can recommend something for my TE Magna? Thanks

Do you have standard rotors or after market ones ?
Nic
WA

They're just standard rotors.

if uve got standard rotors afaik u need standard pads, due to the diffrent compounds used in the pad (well thats what the bloke at bridgestone told me, and what i learnt in engineering studies at school wen we studied braking systems)

if uve got standard rotors afaik u need standard pads, due to the diffrent compounds used in the pad (well thats what the bloke at bridgestone told me, and what i learnt in engineering studies at school wen we studied braking systems)

Thats pretty well right manifesto, so any aftermarket pad with standard caractoristics of the std mitsubishi pad will do !

Nic
WA

So if I wanted to look at the next level up from Standard what should I be looking for? also bear in mind that this is the rear brakes, so I assume I would need to upgrade the front brakes also so that when I brake the rear of the car won't want to overtake the front?

Try Auto Brake Services (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/www.autobrakeservice.com.au)

try Philcom rally (at the bottom of the start page under sponsors)

i got mine through them

IMO Lucas are the best out of QFM, original mitsu, and all the Bendix models. very high boiling point but alot of dust.

IMO Lucas are the best out of QFM, original mitsu, and all the Bendix models. very high boiling point but alot of dust.

Amen to that. Its OEM in most european countries. Just have a look at a merc or bmw or
audi and even astra and vectra and notice the blackened wheels. I had a set on my old ks
at the front with dba slotted rotors and the wheels will be black within two weeks after
washing.

very high boiling point but alot of dust.

Your brake pads boil? :shock:

I think he means "fading":)

Funny that I have been saying how good the Lucas were here on the forums for years and all of a sudden now they have been "discovered"

They are dusty, can also be noisy, but are very fade resistant, the burn temp is higher than those crap ultimates.

YOu can get them at ABS.

You CAN run them on standard rotors. People who think that DBA, even the slotted, are "harder" are delusional. The softer the rotor the better (to an extent) as the braking will be better, just look at BMW and Merc's, they have rotors replaced very often.

Funny that I have been saying how good the Lucas were here on the forums for years and all of a sudden now they have been "discovered" They are dusty, can also be noisy, but are very fade resistant, the burn temp is higher than those crap ultimates.
YOu can get them at ABS. You CAN run them on standard rotors. People who think that DBA, even the slotted, are "harder" are delusional. The softer the rotor the better (to an extent) as the braking will be better, just look at BMW and Merc's, they have rotors replaced very often.

You are deluded Madmagna as you my friend have no idea what you are talking about...
go ask a brake fitter to skim or grind a set of DBA's like I did and ask him how hard they are !

Also with the rotors... wrong again... the softer the meterial the more heat absorbtion the quicker the brake fade and warping ! Thats a fact !

The harder the material in the rotor the harder the material like kevlar in the pads then you have longjevity in brakes !

You really need to work on your knowlege of metalic compounds both ferrous and non ferrous or even metallurgy !

Like I said in my other thread when you flamed me madmagna... I have a background in engineering and Ill ask the same question you did of me but in reverse... do you a degree in mechanical engineering ?

Nic
WA

You are deluded Madmagna as you my friend have no idea what you are talking about...
go ask a brake fitter to skim or grind a set of DBA's like I did and ask him how hard they are !

Also with the rotors... wrong again... the softer the meterial the more heat absorbtion the quicker the brake fade and warping ! Thats a fact !

The harder the material in the rotor the harder the material like kevlar in the pads then you have longjevity in brakes !

You really need to work on your knowlege of compounds !

Like I said in my other thread when you flamed me madmagna... I have a background in engineering and Ill ask the same question as a reverse... do you a degree in mechanical engineering ?

Nic
WA

Then explain to me how my lucas pads lasted longer than my dba slotted rotors. Both brand
new and fitted at the same time. The pads were down to 20% and the rotors were below
minimum thickness after 10000kms.

You are deluded Madmagna as you my friend have no idea what you are talking about...
go ask a brake fitter to skim or grind a set of DBA's like I did and ask him how hard they are !

Also with the rotors... wrong again... the softer the meterial the more heat absorbtion the quicker the brake fade and warping ! Thats a fact !

The harder the material in the rotor the harder the material like kevlar in the pads then you have longjevity in brakes !

You really need to work on your knowlege of metalic compounds both ferrous and non ferrous or even metallurgy !

Like I said in my other thread when you flamed me madmagna... I have a background in engineering and Ill ask the same question you did of me but in reverse... do you a degree in mechanical engineering ?

Nic
WA

The only degree you have is in masterbation.....

I have been in the trade for 20 years, I have been around performance and street cars for just as long.

You are the one who is deluded, I, in the last post, clearly stated that I knew you had a third gen, you can only read pictures. Pity your ban expired really:nuts:

Thanks VLAD< seems that some of us have tried what we speak about first, needabetter car needs a brain before he gets a better car

Then explain to me how my lucas pads lasted longer than my dba slotted rotors. Both brand
new and fitted at the same time. The pads were down to 20% and the rotors were below
minimum thickness after 10000kms.

Simple explanation is the compounds between the pads and rotors where incompatable !

Nic
WA

Simple explanation is the compounds between the pads and rotors where incompatable !

Nic
WA

The lucas pads were recommended by DBA. I rang before hand to make sure the Lucas
pads suited the rotors.

The only degree you have is in masterbation.....
I have been in the trade for 20 years, I have been around performance and street cars for just as long. You are the one who is deluded, I, in the last post, clearly stated that I knew you had a third gen, you can only read pictures. Pity your ban expired really:nuts:
Thanks VLAD< seems that some of us have tried what we speak about first, needabetter car needs a brain before he gets a better car

hey madmagna... In the forums on acceptable behavior it said there is no tollerence for flaming and alike and people like you seem to be oblivious of this and post "above" words like mastibation dilusional and nuts !

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Whats up with that bain ?

Nic
WA

Back on topic?

As Vlad states, DBA also recommend the Lucas, they are a great pad if you can put up with some dust and the occasional squeal.

Through the spures in Melb, I have put these to the test, from memory they have a burning temp of around 600 deg c

I'm not a fan of brake dust. Infact I hate it. That's why i'm getting Shadow Chrome rims :bowrofl: The Ralliart pads make heaps of dust. Thinking after these pads die i'll get a set of EBC Green Stuff.

Back on topic?

As Vlad states, DBA also recommend the Lucas, they are a great pad if you can put up with some dust and the occasional squeal.

Through the spures in Melb, I have put these to the test, from memory they have a burning temp of around 600 deg c

So no go with Lucas pads on DBA rotors? I currenttly have Qfm's on the front. They seam to do an alright job (nothing spectacular) Has anyone else had experience with Qfm's compared to Lucas?

In my own opinion DBA standard slotted rotors are crap. Next set of rotors I'll look into the RDA range.

So no go with Lucas pads on DBA rotors? I currenttly have Qfm's on the front. They seam to do an alright job (nothing spectacular) Has anyone else had experience with Qfm's compared to Lucas?

In my own opinion DBA standard slotted rotors are crap. Next set of rotors I'll look into the RDA range.

Or get the EBC range together with the Lucas and wash your wheels every fortnight. :badgrin:

I'm getting the feeling here that this might come down to personal preference? there is no clear consensus on one brand / model being particularly better than another just that particular people like particular kinds of rotor / pad combination? (obviously like everything else the more money you throw at it the better the performance)

Or get the EBC range together with the Lucas and wash your wheels every fortnight. :badgrin:

RDA is the EBC range of rotors, EBC make pads:P

Has anyone else had experience with Qfm's compared to Lucas?


yup. lucas **** all over qfm's. i *** hated them! changed them out after about a month. but be warned.... they produce lots and lots of dust. and also, i dont think they make them for the rears of our cars, so i had to go with bendi(cks)....

and yes, down mt dandy, with any of the other brands i mentioned, towards the end of the run, i basically had no brake pedal left (ie, foot went all the way to the floor without slowing the car down). but with the lucas..... gold!

oh and Mal, i think they're rated to 750 degrees

Yes and for those who wonder how hot brakes get,
I have been in a members car on mt dandenong when the pads on both sides let go, giving us only backing plates to stop on, sparks were amazing, the stoppin power, well it blew

Supercheap sell Lucas pads, I looked at them before I bought a complete set of QFMs for my VS wagon. I might give the Lucas pads ago on the Verada, after having complete brake fade a couple of times on QFMs I refuse to touch the crap. I seem to remember DBA saying to avoid EBC pads when useing DBA rotors. As for hard rotors/pads, the ONLY advantage they have is they last a long time. Some might even cope well with high thermal loads. But they won't stop worth a damm and will usually eat the partner for breakfast. OE European pads and rotors are fairly soft as they are required to be able to stop the car repeatedly from high speed with out fadeing. The down side is they don't last long, hence why most Euro cars have pad wear sensors, are dusty and noisey. Australians are foolish in that we prefer quiet, clean and long lasting brakes that fade badly when asked to work. Oh yeah, most Euro's don't permit skimmed rotors.

Supercheap sell Lucas pads, I looked at them before I bought a complete set of QFMs for my VS wagon. I might give the Lucas pads ago on the Verada, after having complete brake fade a couple of times on QFMs I refuse to touch the crap. I seem to remember DBA saying to avoid EBC pads when useing DBA rotors. As for hard rotors/pads, the ONLY advantage they have is they last a long time. Some might even cope well with high thermal loads. But they won't stop worth a damm and will usually eat the partner for breakfast. OE European pads and rotors are fairly soft as they are required to be able to stop the car repeatedly from high speed with out fadeing. The down side is they don't last long, hence why most Euro cars have pad wear sensors, are dusty and noisey. Australians are foolish in that we prefer quiet, clean and long lasting brakes that fade badly when asked to work. Oh yeah, most Euro's don't permit skimmed rotors.

Hey Mr Stationwagon good post !

The magna's are so under braked by far !

I used DBA rotors with green stuff pads on my 1998 TF magna with 274mm rotors and wore a set of pads out in about 5000ks ! Ive also warped 3 sets of rotors in the last 2 yrs !
Ive used every combination of pads and rotors but found this the best combination so far !

Ive just fitted ralliart callipers and 294mm EDU rotors and Green Stuff pads and hope I have the best combination possible !

I do a lot of autokhanas classic rallys and speed events here in perth !

Nic
WA

links
http://www.classicrally.com.au
http://www.speedeventseries.com
maxaction@actionalarms.com.au

Also if you do motor cycle enduros like I do :
http://www.trailandenduro.com

Supercheap sell Lucas pads, I looked at them before I bought a complete set of QFMs for my VS wagon. I might give the Lucas pads ago on the Verada, after having complete brake fade a couple of times on QFMs I refuse to touch the crap. I seem to remember DBA saying to avoid EBC pads when useing DBA rotors. As for hard rotors/pads, the ONLY advantage they have is they last a long time. Some might even cope well with high thermal loads. But they won't stop worth a damm and will usually eat the partner for breakfast. OE European pads and rotors are fairly soft as they are required to be able to stop the car repeatedly from high speed with out fadeing. The down side is they don't last long, hence why most Euro cars have pad wear sensors, are dusty and noisey. Australians are foolish in that we prefer quiet, clean and long lasting brakes that fade badly when asked to work. Oh yeah, most Euro's don't permit skimmed rotors.

Thanks Mr Stationwagon, what you said about the euro ones is exactly what I stated.

The Lucas pads are good for stopping and fade resistance, the heat tollerance in not created by hardness of the pad, it is the compount.

It also prevents the heat from traveling to the claiper thus causing the common "hard hot pedal" you get as the fluid starts to expand before it boils.

Also for everyone serious about the brakes, look at the fluid you are using, standard dot4 wil not cope with a real lot

does anyone know the part number for the lucas pads? might ring round to get some prices. i hate the pads that are in now.

to suit a 3.5 th sedan

does anyone know the part number for the lucas pads? might ring round to get some prices. i hate the pads that are in now.

to suit a 3.5 th sedan
forgot the part no. sorry, but just so you know - they are great pads, but very very dusty.
Luke