PDA

View Full Version : manual verada, wiring issues



Ford fella
09-03-2006, 05:24 PM
Okay i have used the search thing and read up on this manual conversion thing, now i have a question, i noticed that the ecu bem and engine bay wiring harness gets changed, the big question is wtf to do about a manual BEM for a verada ??? anyone got any ideas on this will all the verada options work on a manual vrx or ralliart bem ??? will it run on a sports bem ???


some please help :D


edit: it's currently a kj tiptronic 4spd auto, well was till last weekend

Black Beard
09-03-2006, 06:28 PM
You'll have to excuse my morose question....... what's the BEM??

I know asylum replaced his auto ECU/TCU with the equivelant gear from a manual, and I've got a feeling someone else managed to do the conversion without changing the ECU over, but had to use a piggyback of some description, but if you've used the search function, then you probably already know more about it than I do. :D

I've got the 2002 auto tech encylopedia on my laptop, I know it has some pretty detailed info of the auto TCU and the manual ECU. Just sing out if that'll help.

Ford fella
09-03-2006, 06:33 PM
BEM body electrics module, yeah i have searched but if you need to replace the bem i am guessing the verada bem is different to a lower model like most cars so unless there is a way of do a conversion without changing the bem or knowing if the ralliart/vrx bem can be used the project isn't looking good

Black Beard
09-03-2006, 06:42 PM
would the complete automatic and manual wiring diagrams help identify whats different and what's the same??? cause I've got those........ don't mean **** to me though :confused: .

I assume you'll be at the Dyno day on Saturday, so I'll bring my laptop along.

Ford fella
09-03-2006, 06:51 PM
yeah will be there, so will si, but his car won't be now if ya could bring it could be very handy thanks,

oh yeah i saw your car on the tow truck very nice :bowrofl:

need a sticker for tha back now " as seen on today tonight"

wooley
09-03-2006, 07:04 PM
why was his car on a tow truck on today tonight? huh im confused? lol :(

Asylum
09-03-2006, 09:22 PM
i changed my BEM and ECU, coz one of them was fried, and it was going to save wiring hassles leter no doubt (i also changed the engine wiring loom aswell)

Guru has converted his TH Sports Tiptronic to manual aswell, but he already had a Greddy Emanage installed, so not sure if that helped or not. i know he did do a reasonable amount of wiring work, something along the line of tricking the trans-computer into thinking its always in neutral? i think he's even got his cruise control working too (something i'm still yet to get around to doing)

Ford fella
10-03-2006, 11:40 AM
well lets hope we can trick the verada,


any info you can share guru ???? ( where ever you are )

GuRu
10-03-2006, 12:14 PM
Hey.

Yeah, you should be able to keep your existing ECU's - infact, im *pretty* sure you dont even need a greddy (or other piggyback ECU) - the (auto) ecu doesnt seem to mind at all.

sorry I dont have exact pin numbers or anything but ill tell you what to do and you should be able to work it out...

all I did, was at the ECU, there is a wire that goes out to the inhibitor switch (on top of the gearbox) that loops through it, then back into the ECU. what this one does is basically stop you from starting the engine in gear (or anything other than P and N). I just shorted these two wires out at the ECU, and this lets the engine start. with the harness disconnected (from the auto box) when you start the engine, the N light flashes on for a fraction of a second, then clicks off - seems to check if its got a gearbox, then if it doesnt just reverts to manual mode ;)

the reverse lights and cruise are wired up like this: (thanks to PHILSTH)
Reverse light:
On the plug (10 pin) for the gear selector/inhibitor switch that's left from the auto, go to pin 8 white wire and pin 7 red with blue stripe wire and tap into these wires and run to the reverse switch on the manual pin 2 red/blu and pin 1 white. If you cut a plug (2 pin) of a manual at the wreckers the wire colurs will be pin 1 red and pin 2 red/blu therefore the white wire on the auto plug will go to the red wire on the manual plug.
1 2 3 4 5 6 are at the top of plug and 7 8 9 10 are on the bottom, all go left to right looking at pins or sockets


One way to fix your cruise:
Cut the blue wire with a red trace at pin 13 on your cruz ECU and the connect it to your clutch s/w this will give you the manual configuration which drops out the cruz when the clutch is pressed, something you really want.

Currently because you've shorted the inhibitor the cruz ecu pin 13 is getting an earth thru the starter windings. On the manual pin 13 gets the earth thru the clutch switch. By cutting the wire at pin 13 this will remove the earth and you can leave your short in the inhibior plug no worries. However as above fit a clutch switch and connect the wire from 13 to it to stop your car over revving.


GOOD LUCK :D
its so definately worth the hassle!

Ford fella
10-03-2006, 12:46 PM
Thanks for that, so you didn't need to change your bem ???