G'day all, I am keen to lower my TJII Sports but I dont want it "on its guts" Low, just nicely lowered and lookin better.
I know in commodores about 2 1/2 inches works great, but am new to the Magna world and want to know which brands work well, and by lowering how much (e.g 1 inch, 3 inches???)
If anyone has some good feedback I would be very keen to know what works.

Fully Sick Doof, Doof drivers need not reply please!!!:rant:

Fully Sick Doof, Doof drivers need not reply please!!!
lol
i wonder if ne one will reply mate!

G'day all, I am keen to lower my TJII Sports but I dont want it "on its guts" Low, just nicely lowered and lookin better.
I know in commodores about 2 1/2 inches works great, but am new to the Magna world and want to know which brands work well, and by lowering how much (e.g 1 inch, 3 inches???)
If anyone has some good feedback I would be very keen to know what works.

Fully Sick Doof, Doof drivers need not reply please!!!:rant:
I think lows all round is a good combo for both looks and driveability. Maybe even go superlows at the front if you want it lower, but then with wider rims i hear you can get issues with rubbing. I know i'm getting lows all round :).

G'day all, I am keen to lower my TJII Sports but I dont want it "on its guts" Low, just nicely lowered and lookin better.
I know in commodores about 2 1/2 inches works great, but am new to the Magna world and want to know which brands work well, and by lowering how much (e.g 1 inch, 3 inches???)
If anyone has some good feedback I would be very keen to know what works.

Fully Sick Doof, Doof drivers need not reply please!!!:rant:

I'm offended!! lol
I reckon you should speak to a guy on the forums called "choonga"

His car is low.... but not low enough :bowrofl:

I think lows all round is a good combo for both looks and driveability. Maybe even go superlows at the front if you want it lower, but then with wider rims i hear you can get issues with rubbing. I know i'm getting lows all round :).

This is the sort of thing I was after, but I do have questions.....
When you say Lows do you refer to a particular brand???? excuse my ignorance on this one.
I have played with Commodores as I said and would say inch lower than FE2, with shortened shockers kind of work well etc as you have said "Lows all round work well" but who makes them and where do u ya get them from? I will probably install them myself unless its not a lot different in price.

engineering cert = as low as you want, in n.sw

the most common setup for 3rd gen magnas are King Springs, with superlows in the front, and lows in the rear. From memory, that drops the car about 60mm and 40mm respectively. Thats what i have in my TE, with 235/45/R17 tyres and have never had rubbing issues?

The only issue i have is going up my driveway cos its a bastard, but is fine if i go up on an angle.
As for pics, there is a pic of my car in my profile, and there is literally tons of pictures of magnas with the superlow/low setup on here. Try the "post your ride" thread in the 3rd gen section :)

P.S. there are some "fully sick doof doof drivers" on here who have gone much lower than that, but i personally think it looks bloody ridiculous!

the most common setup for 3rd gen magnas are King Springs, with superlows in the front, and lows in the rear. From memory, that drops the car about 60mm and 40mm respectively. Thats what i have in my TE, with 235/45/R17 tyres and have never had rubbing issues?

The only issue i have is going up my driveway cos its a bastard, but is fine if i go up on an angle.
As for pics, there is a pic of my car in my profile, and there is literally tons of pictures of magnas with the superlow/low setup on here. Try the "post your ride" thread in the 3rd gen section :)

P.S. there are some "fully sick doof doof drivers" on here who have gone much lower than that, but i personally think it looks bloody ridiculous!
This is what i meant by "driveability".
I dunno about you, but i'd hate to have to do that all the time.
Sure superlows at the front look better, but you have to drive the car as well :). Depends on how comfortable you are i guess and personal opinion.
I was referring to King springs in my post/s. Lovells lower the same amount as kings minus 10mm i think?

But honestly I have never regretted getting superlows in the front. My driveway is the only one which gives me dramas, and when i say dramas i only mean that if i go up it normally it just scrapes the towhooks a little.

And yeh Lovell lower the car all round 50mm.

Yeah gotta love those tow hooks :D

Day i got mine lowered i went to pull back in to Malcom's drive and didn't realise how low it was now :( (aslo the speed didn't help) luckily the tow hooks are lower than the bumper so didnt do any damage.

S/low front low rear is a great combo.

Just take it easy around sharp drives. but to this date 7 weeks... i havent scraped since :)

Superlows on front, lows on rear.

It's what i have:
http://theweb.net.au/tqo999/a.jpg
http://theweb.net.au/tqo999/b.jpg

I do scrap on some steep drive ways and exits to some places, but only if i'm going fast.. take your time and it's fine. But every day use, i can get up my driveway fine, and most peoples. I've never had a problem on a dirt road, and speed humps are no drama

This was my VRX with superlows front and lows rear.

Without Pacemakers the car was above legal height (barely) with Pacemaker extractors it was 10mm below legal (90mm) - Speedhumps and generaly driveways were issues.. But if you dont mind slowing down for anything above a pimple then its fine.

*edit* If you have the Sports, yours will be a bit higher as the sideskirts on the VRX are lower.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/miltonf/car/mitsu/MagnaVRX/vrx5.jpg

Yes I like driveability (with a nice looking ride height), so I reckon the lows would be fine for my needs at moment.
Dont get me wrong, I love low cars, but as my wife drives this one a few times a week, I dont wanna have to replace front spoilers at a great rate either.
Angled driveway acsents dont make much sense to my lovely lady!!!!:cry:

cheers guys,
Rich

This was my VRX with superlows front and lows rear.

Without Pacemakers the car was above legal height (barely) with Pacemaker extractors it was 10mm below legal (90mm) - Speedhumps and generaly driveways were issues.. But if you dont mind slowing down for anything above a pimple then its fine.
Bain just curious, is this with just you in the car? Is it much worse with a full carload?
I've seen a TJ with lows all round (i believe chelstj just has lows all round) and it looks pretty good, but not so low you have to worry about driving over bumps on an angle.

I cant lower my car at all which Im pissed about because of my driveway. If I lower it it will scrape the bugger out of my car.

i used to have lovell super lows .... they were really comfortable not to harsh

i now have compressed super lows and interms of handling they are awsome!!! just a bit more bumpy but thats to be expected

I cant lower my car at all which Im pissed about because of my driveway. If I lower it it will scrape the bugger out of my car.

Same same though it looks not as good but hey would you want your car scraping everytime? I decided not to do the lowering.

Go King Spring Super lows on the front, and Lows on the rear. Thats what i've got on my verada, and haven't had ne probs with scraping. I think u'd be disappointed with lows all round.
my 2 cents.

wen ive lowered my cars in the past and used kings ave had nuthing but problems i havent lowered my magna as yet but kings damaged my corolla wen i had it and was a very uncomfortable in my pulsar priar to that i rather go pedders or custom

hey mate, check my profile for a picy of kings lowered..30mm f&r. and yes my exhaust tip scrapes up my driveway with a full tank of gas.

*turns down music to answer question :P*

ive got lows all round and i never have any probs with scraping at all. if you go lows, you wont be dissapointed, it still has some ride quality, excellent cornering ability, and the sort of drivability where you can drive straight into driveways without scrapage.

the only scraping i get with my car is my exhaust tip which hangs about 3 or so inchs below my bumper

Car Quest in Perth will be doing either of these for me.


Sport low drop around 35mm and super low close to 50mm from standard.

I’m just note sure.. See I love the Verada because it has an extremely nice feel about it, its smooth and I don’t feel a bump. *It does however look like I’m driving in the clouds, its so damn high it looks funny. The 18" rims would have something to do with it.

It does however look like I’m driving in the clouds, its so damn high it looks funny. The 18" rims would have something to do with it.

rims dont raise the car at all, unless you've got the wrong sized tyres!!


honestly superlow all around, isn't as low as you might think. its what ive got and its about perfect (once the wheel arch flares were fitted, there was only a *slight* gap between the tyre and the wheel arch)

just make sure you do the shocks at the same time, as mine has gotten pretty rought riding on standard shocks for a couple of years now.

Bain just curious, is this with just you in the car? Is it much worse with a full carload?
I've seen a TJ with lows all round (i believe chelstj just has lows all round) and it looks pretty good, but not so low you have to worry about driving over bumps on an angle.
That was with me only in it.

Add in passengers and the car at the front of the rear wheel would be about 6cm off the ground. Looked great, but not so good for driveability.

I think the best handling suspension for the TJ is Kings lows all round, koni or Monroe sports, thicker front and rear sways and a strutbrace. (without blowing out your budget on Hotbits coilovers)

Forgot to mention, if you have 18 inch or larger rims, you will be slightly higher than the normal ride height with 17's.

i wanna get lovell super lows cause i wanna dump my TE. but Im insured with NRMA and cant really change because im getting a bloody unreal deal. Can someone correct me if im wrong but the height drop they allow is only 30mm's Correct ????

I know lovells SUper lows will go lower. but by how much. and does it really matter if i just tell them that ive lowered it by 30mm but infact its lower by 85 or howeva much lovels lower it by ?

i wanna get lovell super lows cause i wanna dump my TE. but Im insured with NRMA and cant really change because im getting a bloody unreal deal. Can someone correct me if im wrong but the height drop they allow is only 30mm's Correct ????

I know lovells SUper lows will go lower. but by how much. and does it really matter if i just tell them that ive lowered it by 30mm but infact its lower by 85 or howeva much lovels lower it by ?

30mm is correct.

Its totally up to you if you want to lie to your insurer..

Who cares if they void your insurance on a technicality of you having springs that arent allowed... :doubt: - P.S If they really want to get picky, they can check the model code on the springs to see what type of coil they are.

30mm is correct.

Its totally up to you if you want to lie to your insurer..

Who cares if they void your insurance on a technicality of you having springs that arent allowed... :doubt: - P.S If they really want to get picky, they can check the model code on the springs to see what type of coil they are.


im sensing a fair amount of unneccesary sarcasm there old bainy boy

whats the likely hood of them voiding a claim coz my springs are lower than stated in the policy, more to the point whats the likelyhood of them even noticing ???

im sensing a fair amount of unneccesary sarcasm there old bainy boy

whats the likely hood of them voiding a claim coz my springs are lower than stated in the policy, more to the point whats the likelyhood of them even noticing ???
hahah

well the way i see it, youre giving them XX amount of dollars to insure something they possibly will void. Its a risk that only you can decide on what to do.

Chance of them picking it up? Probably 1 in a million, but do you want to risk not being paid out if you have an accident (ie writing off the car)

I got the front 2 windows redone on my XR6T because they were 20% tint. Stupid for me to be paying 1k a year on a policy that they can void from stupid window tint.

yeah u actually have a good point.

well wat springs will lower it by only the 30mm's King Lows or Lovell Lows ????

yeah u actually have a good point.

well wat springs will lower it by only the 30mm's King Lows or Lovell Lows ????

Kings lows will settle about 5mm lower (after about 500kms) if you are using standard shocks (still legal as you have the correct springs in there)

Not sure what Lovell lows are 20 or 30mm

ahk ive actually got VRX springs in there at the moment. stiffer and slightly lower. like 10mm maybe.

i might Pm anthony
well the new guy anyways.

Kings lows will settle about 5mm lower (after about 500kms) if you are using standard shocks (still legal as you have the correct springs in there)

Not sure what Lovell lows are 20 or 30mm
King lows only 5mm? must be a typo? I still have to check with RACV on how low they let you go, probably 30mm.
I think i'll go with king lows all round, wont worry too much about shocks until i need to replace them :). The main thing i'm after at the moment is to make my car not look like every other 4wd magna on the road :P.

*EDIT*
Sorry just thought about it, do you mean they'll sit lower 5mm with stock shocks, as opposed to upgraded ones?

Dont you mean 50mm lower?

Dont you mean 50mm lower?
lows wouldn't sit that low, superlows sit about 60mm, i'm pretty sure someone said 40mm for king lows.

No he means that when you first get king springs your car is NOT as low as its going to end up, after about 500km they settle another 5-10mm or even more on our Lancer hehe :)

Edit: I have King lows placed in by the dealer, the car has gone a slight noticeable bit lower after doing 1000k in the month ive owned it :)

No he means that when you first get king springs your car is NOT as low as its going to end up, after about 500km they settle another 5-10mm or even more on our Lancer hehe :)

Edit: I have King lows placed in by the dealer, the car has gone a slight noticeable bit lower after doing 1000k in the month ive owned it :)

So you have king lows all round? seen as your car is the same as mine, could i get a side on pic of it? That way i'll know exactly what mine will look like :D.

http://www.safetygaz.com/magnaside.jpg

*EDIT*
Sorry just thought about it, do you mean they'll sit lower 5mm with stock shocks, as opposed to upgraded ones?

Correct as your standard shocks will be compressed more than a set of sports shocks.

Correct as your standard shocks will be compressed more than a set of sports shocks.
Ah ok, stock shocks should be able to handle just king lows for awhile yeh?

Thanks for the pic Brett, that's pretty much exactly where i wanted my car to sit :D. King lows for me :). Hows this sat looking baino?

I'm gonna ring RACV now and find out if its ok.

A little bit on topic.

Western QBE in Perth just gave me the A-Ok for 50mm drop. :) No affect to my insurance at all.

Ok just called RACV:
Cannot lower by more than 30mm
Lowest part of car must be higher than 100mm
Cannot lower by more than 1/3 of original height.
lowest part of the car cannot be lower than the rim (dunno how this would work though).

So will king lows be ok bain?

What size wheels you got, i have 17"s and i have NRMA who said the EXACT same things as you and mine is fine :)

lets think about it, King lows are 30mm drop so thats ok!
Lowest part of the car will NOT be less then 100mm to the ground which is the LAW so thats ok!
It WONT be more than 1/3 the original height so thats ok!
The lowest part of your car won't be below the rim if you have larger wheels with low profile tyres because that would be lower then 100mm ground clearance which is illegal and your car won't be that low..

i say, DO IT :D

Ok just called RACV:
Cannot lower by more than 30mm
Lowest part of car must be higher than 100mm
Cannot lower by more than 1/3 of original height.
lowest part of the car cannot be lower than the rim (dunno how this would work though).

So will king lows be ok bain?

lows are fine mate :)

What size wheels you got, i have 17"s and i have NRMA who said the EXACT same things as you and mine is fine :)

lets think about it, King lows are 30mm drop so thats ok!
Lowest part of the car will NOT be less then 100mm to the ground which is the LAW so thats ok!
It WONT be more than 1/3 the original height so thats ok!
The lowest part of your car won't be below the rim if you have larger wheels with low profile tyres because that would be lower then 100mm ground clearance which is illegal and your car won't be that low..

i say, DO IT :D
lol our cars are gonna be identical, i'm hoping to colour code and get a vrx spoiler as well :P.
Yeh i have 17's, i thought about it, and you'd have to have pretty damn small rims for it to be higher than the car (if it's even possible).
Well that's all great to hear! Cant wait to get her lowered now, just pm me when you can confirm you're free Bain, and what's your choice of beverage, i'll buy you a bottle of something for helping :).

I went Lovell Super-lows all round with 17's back in 2000 and the Altera is still going strong with no problems. The front was dropped about 70mm which sounds a lot but in reality, the stock Magnas are ridiculously high. The rear was dropped about 40mm.

Go with Super-lows.

There doesn't seem to be much comment on ride quality after lowering (I've searched:D ) so I'm assume it pretty much remains unchanged? I'm more concerned with soaking up big bumps compared to normal ride height standard springs?

My mates 92 cressida has king lows all round and his rides ok. However with 4 people on board the rear bottoms out on almost every bump because he didn't get the progressive rate springs. Do the Magna's need progressive rate?

Anyways having said that, I'm lowering mine in the next fortnight with 17's and from what I've read will probably just go with king lows all round me thinks. I don't want a spine shattering ride, I want it legal and I usually only have 1 extra passenger at the most so bottoming out shouldn't be a problem.

superlows will void my insurance, nuff said.

There doesn't seem to be much comment on ride quality after lowering (I've searched:D ) so I'm assume it pretty much remains unchanged? I'm more concerned with soaking up big bumps compared to normal ride height standard springs?

My mates 92 cressida has king lows all round and his rides ok. However with 4 people on board the rear bottoms out on almost every bump because he didn't get the progressive rate springs. Do the Magna's need progressive rate?

Anyways having said that, I'm lowering mine in the next fortnight with 17's and from what I've read will probably just go with king lows all round me thinks. I don't want a spine shattering ride, I want it legal and I usually only have 1 extra passenger at the most so bottoming out shouldn't be a problem.

Superlows you feel the bumps, some people like it as you get more of a feel for the road and how to react/handle the conditions youre in. Others hate it.

Lows is the best all round in terms of comfort and driveability.

And it doesnt void the insurance.

ride quality also depends on type of shocks ur using aswell

Superlows you feel the bumps, some people like it as you get more of a feel for the road and how to react/handle the conditions youre in. Others hate it.

Lows is the best all round in terms of comfort and driveability.

And it doesnt void the insurance.
:stoopid: This is exactly why i'm going kings lows all round, as you can see on brett's TJ, doesn't sit high at all, and is LEGAL.

I was hoping to retain the standard factory shocks because the cars only done about 70K.

My mate replaced the shocks in his cressida (the shocks were original and had done 250k +) complaining about the ride being too soft even with the king lows. Once replaced it still rides like factory as far as I'm aware and still bottoms out with 4 aboard.lol He had progressive rate king lows in his 93 Corolla and whilst it rode firm, it wasn't uncomfortable and never bottomed out with a car full. Thanks Bain, I'm going to just go king lows all round so i still have a comfy ride.

Just take ya springs right out !

that'd b low :D


oh yeah, Maddog, LOW springs from Kings will void your insurance Mate.

Superlows - 50-60mm drop
Lows - 45mm drop
LowSP - 30mm drop