my drivers side door pilar is seriosly bent and panel beaters dont want to fix it without replacing half my car...$4000 worth.
i want to buy two new doors and keep all my other pats and just bodgy up my door pillar ne suggestions on how i can achieve this.... i was thinking about taking the interior off the door pilars and placing a acro prop inbetween them and pushing them apart duz ne one think this will work without bending the other door pilar

Panel beaters won't fix it for a reason.

If it's not perfect - your doors will not shut correctly or at all.

dude jus get ur self a new car cpz it wont be worth it to fix ur car. is ur car insured???

my car only has third party ppl no it aint im that guy that keeps posting about how to fix my car lol

i carnt afford a new car i just want a temporary fix....

i carnt afford a new car i just want a temporary fix....

There isn't one.

thanks guys 4 ur input :gtfo:

ok ill just have to face the facts :neutral: the only car i have now is my s13

well obviously, you've said it...it will cost $4000 to fix properly, and i'm guessing the panel beaters don't want to do a half arsed bodge job coz well...lets face it, it wiill just suck.

There is no 'temporary' fix because you either have it done properly, or its still 100% stuffed. Does your door not close atm?

Something like your door pillar is a 'major' structural part of you car. Hell, I wouldn't want to be sticking jacks n stuff on pillars bending them back.

Kinda reminds me of materials. Think about it...the steel has already yielded, hence internal structures have been changed. If you go and bend it back or whatever you're just screwing with it more, possibly making it weaker.

i know :owned:

i know :owned:


so...umm...feel like giving me the verada now? :D

Got any pics?

Some things can be cured, some cant.:D

no one is getting my verada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and thanks ol fart ill take some pics tomorow and show u. this pic does not give ne indication of the extent of the damage btw

what hit the side?

a rabbit!!!!!! lol it was a toyota hilux dual cab

whos fault?

Hey Buffy..............what if he eats a ****load of baked beans, seals it up, gets inside and let pressure do the work. I wouldnt smoke though.:bowrofl:

only gaggin guy:D

if it was mine i would take off the interior stuff on the pillar door trims etc

the secret is to go soft and slow
if you dont you may pierce the metal

With a rubber mallet and pieces of wood only
start at the bottom and top of the pillar slowly start making it come out
try not to disturb the floor pan or roof line
get back to me if there are spot welds they need to be seperated carefully if you need to get behind the space to punch it out
use soft pine timber and in different sizes and lengths
try and look at where the pillar should line up to
at supa cheap there is also pannel beating tools in a kit but you need a panel puller and a drill that might help

You can always hit it back in and sideways after then body fill and paint and respray later
wow u know ur stuff i appreciate that thank u

when panel shops repair that damage they cut a section of the roof and floor with the pillar and weld it in. you need to get the car on a jig to to check if the chassis is bent.

Then try the baked beans.lol

Make sure you do a lot of measurements first, preferably from an undamaged car. The eye will lie to you about when something is straight. You measure across inside the car at a number of points and also the diagonal at lateral measurements of the door openings between the A and C pillar.

Patience is the major key as the Buffmeister said, nice and slow and spread across the whole surface. Dont try to move it in 1 go.:)

cheers to magna buff and ol fart for helping me!

btw my pillar is over 100mm pushed in and my doors are completely no use they have holes in them and they dont even work if u looked at my car from a top view wer the damage is it would look like there is a big v bend in my car:confused:

yes TJ sports I agree but the fellow is 19 and no insurance give the guy some slack he musnt be feeling too good at the moment

not having a go at anyone but the pillar was the only thing that stopped the other car from entering the cabin.

not having a go at anyone but the pillar was the only thing that stopped the other car from entering the cabin.

damn right thats y i dont want anther one this one is a lucky one i say! :D

I would not even attempt to fix this at all. These is a reason that the panelbeaters want $4k for a repair.

The B pillar is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR structural part of the car. Along with supporting the roof and helping stop side intrusion, it is a major part of the entire passenger cell (along with the front and rear windsreens would you believe?). Take one bit away from it, and in the next accident it will crumple like you wouldn't believe.

Just be glad that they don't want to replace your roof also, that would add another $4K to the bill. I know, I have hail damage to fix.

Basically thay will need to cut out the old pillar, fix up and probably strengthen the metal around the area too. Then they would need to weld in a new pillar, file it smooth, prime it and paint. There would also be some beating required to your roof, but that would be minimal.

Please don't bang it back with a mallet and wood, not only will you probably do more harm than good, you will be lulled into a false sense of security. Even if the next car hits you side on at only 25-30 clicks, they will go straight through your car. There will be all sorts of metal fatigue and fractures in the pillar that you can't see.

Not only that, but if you 'fix' it (and I use the term very lightly here), and sell it later to some unsuspecting person, and they get seriously injured (or worse, killed) in an accident, YOU can be held accountable. At least the panel shop will give you a certificate that everthing is fixed to standard and if there is any accidents down the track, they (and their insurer) holds the liability problem.

It just isn't worth it mate, I plead with you to stop, think about the rammifications.

I love reading about bush mechanics and panel beaters, do tell more.

The best one yet is the one about the wood and mallet, thats excellent.

Tie a bit of string around it or a piece of garden hose, get a hilux to line up with the damage and reverse, the unbrakeable force of the hiluxe should pull your hinge pillar straight out and the verada will be perfect.:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

mitsimonsta i may just have to deal with the truth because yes my car is in a write off sort of way thats what the panel beater said! he didnt even WANT to fix it! ....... i guess ill just have to let it rust in my backyard! and get my silvia registered!

You can always sell the parts of the verada.

mitsimonsta i may just have to deal with the truth because yes my car is in a write off sort of way thats what the panel beater said! he didnt even WANT to fix it! ....... i guess ill just have to let it rust in my backyard! and get my silvia registered!
Anything is fixable with enough cash.... just like any engine is installable with enough cash!
Technically I would say it is a writeoff, but the repair is less that the total value of the car, so it isn't a writeoff yet.

As I said, just don't do a backyard job. $4K is a cheap price. Take it to a few others and see what they say. I'd reckon $6K is a much more realistic figure.

As was already mentioned, there could also be chassis problems. Best to leave it to the experts. I say sell the silvia and get the Rada fixed!

My hail damage is going to cost me at least $8K to fix, Just the panels alone will be about 2K, but becaus ethey have to rip the roof off, and then weld a new one on and file finish the new 3/4 panels to it on the C pillar, that adds another $4k. Then paint & finish etc. But I will have a totally reskinned car!

If you do "let it rust"... can I have first dibs on your remaining panels for my TF? :redface:

EDIT: do you have leather in that Rada?

mitsimonsta i may just have to deal with the truth because yes my car is in a write off sort of way thats what the panel beater said! he didnt even WANT to fix it! ....... i guess ill just have to let it rust in my backyard! and get my silvia registered!

Its a hinge pillar, its not the structural be all and end all of the motoring universe. The car is repairable, hell you can cut a car in half and weld another half a car onto it and most of you bush mechanincs would never be able to tell.

The reason your car is a write off is because:

Repair costs = more than value of car repaired - value of wreck in current condition.

Meaning, your car is worth about about $7000 approx, the cost to repair your car is around $4000 to $5000, the value of the wreck is probably around $2500 - $3000. Therefore the sale of the wreck would net $3000. take this away from the pay out value if your car was insured, and you would have a $4000 cost to the insurance company, the least expensive option for them.

Hears another way of looking at it, Sell the wreck, combine what you have got for it and add that to what you would have spent fixxing it. you will be able to buy another Ke Verada Ei.

Simple.

well if i am going to fork out 4k to get it fixed i aint doin that! i will buy a stuffed te and put everything verada in and on it! (convert it into a verada) then yes u can have whats left:D

well if i am going to fork out 4k to get it fixed i aint doin that! i will buy a stuffed te and put everything verada in and on it! (convert it into a verada) then yes u can have whats left:D

And you think that will cost you less then fixing your Verada.:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

ive seen te's unregistered 4 $3500

or i can buy another write off if i have the parts to fix it 4 cheap!

I've gotta see this car. :D :D

ive seen te's unregistered 4 $3500

And you are going to change everything over and get the car painted and include the parts that are broken or not there or need to be replaced and then you are going to register it for $500, resulting in a total payout of $4000?:bowrofl:

Just fix the Verada or sell it and buy another one. All this talk and you have no money anyway. You just posted on the for sale thread you have $50.

I've gotta see this car. :D :D
its a no go ol fart i carnt drive the darn thing it is in that bad condition

:cry: im just confused coz i love my car

Where is it? :D

Where is it? :D
in my front yard with no drivers side windows lol

Everybodies a smartarse. lol lol

Care to try a city clever clogs.:D

:nuts:
Everybodies a smartarse. lol lol

Care to try a city clever clogs.:D whats that mean?

:rant:

There have been a couple of sugestons said in jest that I have done before.

Once, pulling the the back of a car out we chained it to a tree and pushed the car away till the slack was taken up, the crunching sound is off-putting. We keep on doing it faster until most of the bend was pulled out, then we did it slower until it was close enough.

If you use ropes and can use another car with a bull bar or tow bar to roll away from your car(do not drive it), you can get the right angle and speed to pull it out.

At the end of the day, spend a few hours with a couple of mates on a project that "may" work.

Good luck

lol i actually thought of that lol

I'd sell everything I could on it individually like the stereo and mags, and then sell it to a wrecker. Then use the funds to buy a cheap car (TS Magna, VP Commodore, EB II Falcon ~$2k each), and then buy another Verada once you can afford it.

should make 3k just in parts

Bite the bullet, slap yourself around the head for not having full comp insurance, and sell it off for parts, cos you should get quite a bit, especially for interior stuff.

Buying a 3L manual TE and transferring everything over would be sweet, but seems like you cant afford it :confused:

The reason your car is a write off is because:

Repair costs = more than value of car repaired - value of wreck in current condition.

Actually, a lot of write-offs are statutory write-offs, it's got nothing to do with insurance, the RTA in NSW for instance will class a car as written off, never to be re-registered if certain items of the following occur:

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/publicationsstatisticsforms/downloads/45070618.pdf

my drivers side door pilar is seriosly bent and panel beaters dont want to fix it without replacing half my car...$4000 worth.
i want to buy two new doors and keep all my other pats and just bodgy up my door pillar ne suggestions on how i can achieve this.... i was thinking about taking the interior off the door pilars and placing a acro prop inbetween them and pushing them apart duz ne one think this will work without bending the other door pilar

The door pillar is an integral part of the ROPS (roll over protection system) and SIPS (side intrusion protection system) same as the front and rear windscreens are part of the ROPS ! It must comply with with these australian standards so if its bent its lost its strucual load carrying integraty or stress load weight interraty and must be replaced !

Nic
WA
Ps. oh and the reason your here today asking about the pillar is... the SIPS (side intrusion protection system) did its job !

my drivers side door pilar is seriosly bent and panel beaters dont want to fix it without replacing half my car...$4000 worth.
i want to buy two new doors and keep all my other pats and just bodgy up my door pillar ne suggestions on how i can achieve this.... i was thinking about taking the interior off the door pilars and placing a acro prop inbetween them and pushing them apart duz ne one think this will work without bending the other door pilar

WTF....

"IF" you did this i hope and pray that car was never in a side on or roll over again!!! say good bye to the driver!

They will replace the pillar with a new one not bend it back! its not only there to hold a door...

if you like your car then just save the 4000. i know its a lot but my car was a "write off" sill damage and doors pushed in. so far bout 450 and doors are done now 550 for sill. i love my car and its taken four months so far with max of two left. just work towards it. and good luck