hey ya'll i was wondering if it is at all possable to turbo and supercharge a magna (i know noones done it) hmmm it would be interesting would it not

There are several people who have turbo'd there magnas and 1 or 2 with the supercharge option, doing it from scratch is very costly but gains can be made

search "turbo" or things along those lines for results

i was thinking of doing both if its at all possable i dunno cause i heard a guy at a performance shop saying he was working on doin it to a WRX or was he just blowing smoke

hey ya'll i was wondering if it is at all possable to turbo and supercharge a magna (i know noones done it) hmmm it would be interesting would it not

although it is possible to supercharge and turbocharge there is no point to do this, as you cannot put the supercharger on (say its a 4cyl) 2 cylinders, and the turbo on the other 2, this wouldnt work as they would not be applying pressure at the same time, and if they were on all cylinders, then the difference in pressure may affect the amount that goes in and it would be almost impossible to sense the right amount of air entering each cylinder, therefore making the engine run lean or rich depending on the revs, and velocity of the exhaust,

You would be way better off either turbo charging, super charging, or twin turbo charging (my prefered option :P ).

i was thinking of doing both if its at all possable i dunno cause i heard a guy at a performance shop saying he was working on doin it to a WRX or was he just blowing smoke

id say he's a grade A tosser

id say he's a grade A tosser

looked strangly at me when i said i owned a magna

looked strangly at me when i said i owned a magna

it probably wondered what that was, if u asked him he probably would have said a rare breed of dog :bowrofl:

it probably wondered what that was, if u asked him he probably would have said a rare breed of dog :bowrofl:

i dunno why but i just got a image of greyhound racing with midgets riding them like jockey's lol

i dunno why but i just got a image of greyhound racing with midgets riding them like jockey's lol

lol, hehe, the only dog able to do the 1/4 mile in under 14 secs

well i tell you what mate u might wanna work on twin turbocharging your ride rather than supercharging as i think there is more potential in the twin turbo option, maybe work the turboes in series? Aparently this is better, but i havent thought about it much and cbf poking holes in it to see if its true

looked strangly at me when i said i owned a magna
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: And that guy was talking of supercharging AND turobing a car lol I woulda laughed in his face. Tool :bowrofl:

It's been done many times before.
For EG: Lancia Delta Intergrale S4, 550 hp turbo and supercharged 1.8l 4 cylinder - Rally car.
The real problem is finding someone who knows how to do it and funding it as the cost would exceed double that of a turbo or supercharged car.

Matthius

there is a twin turbocharged and supercharged wrx in the states or the UK. can't remember which one it is, but i was reading through it on a forum a few months ago.
Had pics, and damn there was like no room under the bonnet

Is this the one you were talking about?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=840806

Crazy....:badgrin:

maybe just buy the sprintex kit, and as that uses the original intake n stuff, bolt on dave's twin turbo kit

Wasn't there a few supercharged and turbo charged cars? Like the Nissan March Super Turbo?

yeh its gunna be soooo expensive but possible nun the less..

way cheaper to just get a Sprintex Kit,


wait you have a 3L Auto

better off selling and buying a 3.5L Manual for better gains

Is this the one you were talking about?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=840806

Crazy....:badgrin:
Can't believe that crazy setup only made 443hp atw. I was thinkin more... :confused:

Why is it such a crazy idea?
I was under the impression that superchargers had alot down low, but died out in higher rev ranges, and you can tune turbos to do the opposite quite easily. I know of a lancer that had both a turbo and supercharger, they managed to tune it so as the supercharger cut out, the turbo kicked in. Instant boost all through the rev range. In theory is an awesome idea, but the amount of tuning you would need to do is huge.

Now there are two ways of doing this:
1. intake into the turbo from there it feeds into the supercharger then through the intercooler onto the T/B.
2.the little nissan mach super turbo had this set up where you have two intakes one to the supercharger and one to the turbo from there they merge into one pipe then into the intercooler, at the merging point there is a flap so lower in the rpm the s/c provides more air so it closes the feed from the turbo, at about 4000rpm the turbo comes into life as the s/c is starting to die off and as the turbo is now providing more air the flap moves and closes the s/c air feed side of things.

if the 2 option was to be used you would need to figure out a turbo/supercharger set where the supercharger is starting to die off and the turbo is just starting to come into life.

i seen a torana with that set up it looked crazy

http://www.warriorfilms.com.au/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,3/page,view/catid,5/PageNo,1/key,32/hit,1/
http://www.apbworks.co.nz/torana.htm

i seen a torana with that set up it looked crazy

http://www.warriorfilms.com.au/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,3/page,view/catid,5/PageNo,1/key,32/hit,1/
http://www.apbworks.co.nz/torana.htm

I've got that LJ on my wall.

:D

I can't remember if they dyno'd it, or if it ran any 1/4's, but I don't think it'd be able to put down any usable power. It'd be a tyre fryer for sure though.

More of a concept car I reckon.

i seen a torana with that set up it looked crazy

http://www.warriorfilms.com.au/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,3/page,view/catid,5/PageNo,1/key,32/hit,1/
http://www.apbworks.co.nz/torana.htm
OH MY GOD :drool:
That is one sweet looking machine. Would love to see the acceleration of that thing.

Why is it such a crazy idea?
I was under the impression that superchargers had alot down low, but died out in higher rev ranges.


Nope they dont die out up top, screw/roots type superchargers produce more and more power as your revs increase as the boost they produce is linear with revs, if your geared to run 7psi and 6000 rpm, then you'll have 6.2summin at 5000, 5.4summin at 4000rpm etc. The only time a supercharger runs out up top is if like any turbo can be it's not matched properly, IE: someone went to a wrecker and went "i've got a fantastic Idea I'm going to get this tiny huffer and make my car go wicked fast"

Nitro funny cars are a case in point - 60psi boost, 5000+hp at 9000rpm in a 400ish cubic inch motor, that certainly isnt running out of puff.

The reason to use a turbo over a supercharger is efficiency, the cost is heat.
The reason to use both is the turbo provides boost for the supercharger therefore removing all of it's driving losses making the supercharger run as efficiently as a turbo, to do this setup properly without funny fuel like methanol requires huge amounts of intercooling as your compound charging the air, so you heat it to around a 100 degrees with the turbo then you add another 100~ with the supercharger, which uncooled equals intake detonation.

Matthius

k i think i'll go with the TT option here hmmm maybe even score some audi TT badges and etch it into the magna garnish on the back lol would be classic

I still don't really see the point in diong this. I mean the only reason I can really see is the wow factor. If you want boost down low, go two smaller turbos, a synchronous turbo setup or a supercharger. I honestly can't see why you'd spend so many $$$$ :nuts: .

I've got that LJ on my wall.

:D

I can't remember if they dyno'd it, or if it ran any 1/4's, but I don't think it'd be able to put down any usable power. It'd be a tyre fryer for sure though.

More of a concept car I reckon.

1100hp, i think, but i will check
and it was quick

coulnd find figures, but got pics...

tanks to street machine website

that car use to be owned by steve at redcliff dyno and performance the engine got sold separate to the car and yes that car was driven at summer nats and at powercruise it's a machine, the same place has the world fastest n/a cortina