Just want to know if anyone that has lowered the hell out of there car tried correcting the rear camber..

Mine is massive since i dropped it nearly 4inchs and its chewing my 20`s up hard.. wanna know if anyone as actually tried correcting it or has corrected it or even looked into doing it.. if your car is slightly lowered you wont know what i am talking about unless its real low..

I need to do my bad but not sure what to do yet as there aint much on the market for magnas..


All The Breast
Jason:D

I think Whiteline have camber pins for the rear... have you checked them out?

Not yet..:D

Will tomorrow.:D

When i had the coilovers i had crazy camber at the rear when it was dropped right down (i believe it was around 4" aswell, dropped right down), so i know what your talking about..

only person who i can think of who had a rear camber kit on a magna was Dan (ralliartboy) on his Blue Exec....

Problem he ran into though is that when he put the camber kit on the rims rubbed on the guards because they were sitting straight again rather than tucking under....

I thourght that the standard ones came with adjustment. I got mine done once i got it lowered

EDIT: it's toe adjustment. But i found that in the US they sell a kit to fix it for about $50 do a search for DIAMANTE

i got the whiteline kit it cost around the 100 buck mark.
it's not a hard thing to fit yourself its takes about a hour
of you time:thumbsup:

yeah i know exactly what u mean, have been meaning to get a camber kit but something else keeps coming up...

lol i like severe camber haha its very jap but munches the hell out of your tyres ..

haha how many times have u looked at ur tread and thought " yeah easy i got stacks left" and then check the inside and realise u need new tyres fast haha

haha how many times have u looked at ur tread and thought " yeah easy i got stacks left" and then check the inside and realise u need new tyres fast haha

I do it every day.. I do 1,200 km a week on 20`s with crazy camber.. rotating my tires every four weeks gives me 4-5 months tire life.. For those who have seen my car there is no way possible to push the tops of the wheels out..they are 3mm from the guards now.. i have to work on pulling the bottoms of the wheels in..:cry: is that possible..??

Dont know how but ill have to come up with something.. Maybe time to pull out the welder and drill out..:P

time to FLARE YOUR GUARDS! GOGOGOGO!

so do whiteline do a kit then?

time to FLARE YOUR GUARDS! GOGOGOGO!
Yeah this is probably the cheapest option, otherwise you'd need some major engineering and fabrication. Mass $$$$$:shock:

I do it every day.. I do 1,200 km a week on 20`s with crazy camber.. rotating my tires every four weeks gives me 4-5 months tire life.. For those who have seen my car there is no way possible to push the tops of the wheels out..they are 3mm from the guards now.. i have to work on pulling the bottoms of the wheels in..:cry: is that possible..??

Dont know how but ill have to come up with something.. Maybe time to pull out the welder and drill out..:P

Dude you think you got bad tyre wear?? My last car (calibra) was lowered to about 3 or 4" off the ground, and the rear suspension was pretty screwed as well giving me badass camber problems / \ and massive toe out (+10° left and +14° right) giving me tyre wear down to the wires after a mere 3 or 4000kms. Thank god for the local 2nd hand tyre shop, was costing me like $90 every 2 or 3 months if i was lucky!

i got a rear camber kit.. apprently.. the bloke said he put one in.. but i don't know wot to look for..

i still have some decent camber though

u can see it here

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/EuroAccord13/PhotoShoot/ThreeRims/IMG_3601.jpg

i got a rear camber kit.. apprently.. the bloke said he put one in.. but i don't know wot to look for..

i still have some decent camber though

u can see it here


wtf are u talking about???

nice new rims btw.....

its chewing my 20`s up hard..

what did i tell you!!! fool!!

afaik, whiteline dont make camber kits for the rear. your only option may be to roll your guards, but i'd like to see that happening with the rear door getting in the way....

it will probably be cheaper to just keep buying new tyres....... or get non directional ones so you can swap the tyres around maybe :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Wouldn't a new adjustable lower control arm be the go? Whiteline make a few of them, see if they have something that may fit the magna???

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9256/adjlca4mq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I had hell camber wen i had my compressed superlows in and i got a whiteline rear camber kit from phillcom. There are two spacers that you put in - one is 0.5degree and the other is 0.8degree (total of 1.3degree camber).

There are a total of 16 spacers (4 of each on both sides) and its very easy to fit. I put the whole 1.3degree kit in but mine camber was still out by about 0.8degree each side - i think u can get bigger kits tho. Kit was about $80. Hope that makes sense :)

I had hell camber wen i had my compressed superlows in and i got a whiteline rear camber kit from phillcom. There are two spacers that you put in - one is 0.5degree and the other is 0.8degree (total of 1.3degree camber).

There are a total of 16 spacers (4 of each on both sides) and its very easy to fit. I put the whole 1.3degree kit in but mine camber was still out by about 0.8degree each side - i think u can get bigger kits tho. Kit was about $80. Hope that makes sense :)

so its just little shims put in to push the top out more?

so its just little shims put in to push the top out more?

Yup thats all it is lol - u could prolly get the same stuff from mitre 10 for about $20 but coz the camber kit has a whitline sticker that makes it $80 :confused:

When i had the coilovers i had crazy camber at the rear when it was dropped right down (i believe it was around 4" aswell, dropped right down), so i know what your talking about..

only person who i can think of who had a rear camber kit on a magna was Dan (ralliartboy) on his Blue Exec....

Problem he ran into though is that when he put the camber kit on the rims rubbed on the guards because they were sitting straight again rather than tucking under....

i did quite a fair bit of work the scrubing was becase of the flairs and being dumped

Dude you think you got bad tyre wear?? My last car (calibra) was lowered to about 3 or 4" off the ground, and the rear suspension was pretty screwed as well giving me badass camber problems / \ and massive toe out (+10° left and +14° right) giving me tyre wear down to the wires after a mere 3 or 4000kms. Thank god for the local 2nd hand tyre shop, was costing me like $90 every 2 or 3 months if i was lucky!


This is my story now.. last tires lasted 4000kms.. at $300+ a tire i need to fix.. and mine is 4 inchs off the ground..


it will probably be cheaper to just keep buying new tyres....... or get non directional ones so you can swap the tyres around maybe :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

I rotate and flip every 4 weeks.. direction and a drama..



I had hell camber wen i had my compressed superlows in and i got a whiteline rear camber kit from phillcom. There are two spacers that you put in - one is 0.5degree and the other is 0.8degree (total of 1.3degree camber).

There are a total of 16 spacers (4 of each on both sides) and its very easy to fit. I put the whole 1.3degree kit in but mine camber was still out by about 0.8degree each side - i think u can get bigger kits tho. Kit was about $80. Hope that makes sense :)
I need a kit to fix 4 degrees..




i did quite a fair bit of work the scrubing was becase of the flairs and being dumped
My flares are gone so thats no problem.. ripped them off when i hit the first bump out front of tire shop infront of highway patrol..:P

The problem is my wheels are 2mm away from a rolled guard so i have no room to move by putting in a top camber pin in.. the only option i have is to pull the bottom of the wheels in to correct the camber..

These would be perfect.. Will look into it tomorrow
http://www.mysti.org/albums/EGOPICS/whiteline.jpg

it may have sumthing to do with ur offset aswell and that ive seen ur car its quite low r they touching the bump stops yet

it may have sumthing to do with ur offset aswell and that ive seen ur car its quite low r they touching the bump stops yet


Offset is fine.. i got 8.5`s with 245/35/20s under the rear guards so it aint the wrong offset. very close to bump stops.. it hits the top of the wheel well before bump stops

the top arm is attached to the body with 4 bolts - why couldnt you just put washers or front wishbone type camber shims in their?

a white line camber kit was fitted to ralliart boys th i was ther wen it got done and the 8.5inch wide rim is the problem even for ralliarts ralliarts came with a 17x7 so you cant go wider then 8inch there 1 prob and the offset of the rim should be if i remember 38

what simon said is exacly what i did with mine i had about 4 degrees camber and it fixed mine perfectly i cant remember how many washers tho, but i do know you need new bolts as well as the washers. Ego you might have even more problems being 20" wheels cause i can barely fit my pinky finger inbetwen the guard and my tyre now hmmmm hard one mate good luck when i get my car back i will take a few pics for ya ok

Cheers

Heath

the top arm is attached to the body with 4 bolts - why couldnt you just put washers or front wishbone type camber shims in their?

Thats what i did to my TH 6yrs ago after i dumped it to the height it is today. My rear camber is set at 1.5degrees negative and i have 14mm of shims on the top arm mounting brackets (i replaced the bolts with high tensile longer ones and then add the shims in)

My car has been running this now for 6yrs and i have competed in track race days and had no problems at all.

really u have to compensate if u want it slamed and looking good evan with a camber kit that low ur still gonna chew tyres

who is the monkey that decided to lower it so much? :P should of thought about it before you got the 20's :P

P.s give me your 20's and you can have my 17's :P

who is the monkey that decided to lower it so much? :P should of thought about it before you got the 20's :P


bingo!!! rofl:bowrofl:

what about some pics of what were're talkin about and a write up........please.....

Lower the car so much wasnt a drama... I knew i was going to get tyre wear and all.. i rotate my tyres every 4 weeks and every 8 weeks i flip them on the rims..

I dont have a drama with tyre where if i do this and drive like a grandma.. on the other hand ive been giving the car a bit of a hard time in the last 3 or 4 weeks and has chewed the New rear tyres right out.. I was shocked as.. by driving it hard it makes the back drop even more and negative camber go through the roof... i have just under 4 degrees negative rear camber(when parked) and about 6mm of positive toe on each side..

The only way i have got any chance of correcting it is by pulling the bottoms of the wheels in as i have no room to push the tops out.. i gave 2mm clearance now with rolled guards.. So pulling the bottoms in is the only chance..

And for those that want to go on about i dont have the right offset should just ssssh as i have a 8.5 inch rim with a 245/35 tyres nearly 2 inchs up under the guard so there is nothing wrong with the offset.. Ring a trye show and ask them if you will be able to fit a 8.5 with a 245 under the guards and they will say no.. as 9 shops told me that..:nuts:

And for the shims at the top i wish i could do it as its a easy fix..

http://www.mysti.org/albums/EGOPICS/wheel1.jpg
http://www.mysti.org/albums/EGOPICS/wheel2.jpg
http://www.mysti.org/albums/EGOPICS/wheel4.jpg

Thats what i did to my TH 6yrs ago after i dumped it to the height it is today. My rear camber is set at 1.5degrees negative and i have 14mm of shims on the top arm mounting brackets (i replaced the bolts with high tensile longer ones and then add the shims in)

My car has been running this now for 6yrs and i have competed in track race days and had no problems at all.
Would you be able to post some pics of the mod. Cause I've got my car dumped on 17s and it's got about the same amount of camber as Ego's! Looks good just terrible on tyres! Another good thing is I haven't rolled my gaurds yet and I could definately fix my camber up that way. By the way where did you get the shims and the high tensile longer bolts from?

the only thing i can think of is ur width of ur rims there too wide 8.5inchs are illeagal evan for ralliarts if u go 8inch wide you will be able to bring the camber out or ther is the opioion of lifting ur car flairing it agian and but a bigger body kit on it to make it look low

Nothin wrong with 8.5" wheels with 245's!!! Prolly need an engineering cert in nsw but that's all.

To keep the top of the wheel pretty close to where it is now you need new ‘lower arms’, most likely new ‘trailing arms’ (ones that go on an angle towards the front of the car) and just hope that the ‘toe control arms’ have enough adjustment to get a reasonable toe in!

Now that’s gonna be a fun and expensive task!


BTW: How close are your wheels/tyres to the knuckle/upper arms?

Cummins.

Nothin wrong with 8.5" wheels with 245's!!! Prolly need an engineering cert in nsw but that's all.

To keep the top of the wheel pretty close to where it is now you need new ‘lower arms’, most likely new ‘trailing arms’ (ones that go on an angle towards the front of the car) and just hope that the ‘toe control arms’ have enough adjustment to get a reasonable toe in!

Now that’s gonna be a fun and expensive task!


BTW: How close are your wheels/tyres to the knuckle/upper arms?

Cummins.
Finnally someone talking some bloody sense.. its only takes 35 posts too..:D
The bottom arms is all i can do and the toe is all good there is 6mm each side now and lots left..

Just got to find someone who makes an adjustable lower arm for the Magna..

I got just under half an inch between wheel and knuckle.. that parts all good..:D


the only thing i can think of is ur width of ur rims there too wide 8.5inchs are illeagal evan for ralliarts if u go 8inch wide you will be able to bring the camber out or ther is the opioion of lifting ur car flairing it agian and but a bigger body kit on it to make it look low
What are yo going on about.. 8.5 with 245 are fine.. And yes they are legal and engineered..

before i fitted my wheels engineer told me i can go as wide as 9inch and its legal with a cert on Magna.. But as i knew they wouldnt go under guards..:)

agreed, there's nothing wrong with 8.5" on a magna. my old 19's fit just fine.

jas, see if you can 'trade' someone for a 20 x 8" rim? cos then you'll have a little bit more play to try and tuck the bottom of the wheel in.....

i dnt realy care about the width i want 8.5 but i know it gonna rub so ive held off

agreed, there's nothing wrong with 8.5" on a magna. my old 19's fit just fine.

jas, see if you can 'trade' someone for a 20 x 8" rim? cos then you'll have a little bit more play to try and tuck the bottom of the wheel in.....


The 8.5s are all good.. its independent rear so it will go in easy.. Just got to find someone thats makes a adjustable arm for magna or atleast one that can fit..:D

you could always raise the height of your car, put the flares back on and keep the same gap between the rim and guard u have now (so the car looks no heigher). that way u will get closer to a standard camber. just trim the flares to clear, its all i did with mine. would also help the ppl following u in carparks when u have to be a wanker and go over speed humps on dumb angles and a snails pace:D

i dont think it would make much differene ..admitedly my flares are only sports flares so they may be smaller but its only the matter of 2 or 3 mm difference ..it dosnt make the rear arch look any lower ......... on the front hpwever is a different story the srches make it look way lower

you could always raise the height of your car, put the flares back on and keep the same gap between the rim and guard u have now (so the car looks no heigher). that way u will get closer to a standard camber. just trim the flares to clear, its all i did with mine. would also help the ppl following u in carparks when u have to be a wanker and go over speed humps on dumb angles and a snails pace:D


My flares are fine.. i trimed them and put them back on and it was fine.. Just didnt like the look of them.. I guess i just got used to them off.. They just looked a little tacky so i took them off again..:)

Car is still 100mm off the ground so i never have to got out a driveway or speed humps sideway unless they arent made to RTA standards and are bigger then they should be... Your front is way lower then mine with that bar you have..:P

does the 20's raise the car off the ground that much to be 100mm off the ground :O ... mines about 55mm off the ground ... damn 20's are bigger than i thought haha ( never seen them ona magna for real)

does the 20's raise the car off the ground that much to be 100mm off the ground :O ... mines about 55mm off the ground ... damn 20's are bigger than i thought haha ( never seen them ona magna for real)


Well i had to keep it 100mm to get it engineered..:)

And so its half practical..:P

i reckon if u put 18's on it , it would be lower to the ground then mine easy :P

i reckon if u put 18's on it , it would be lower to the ground then mine easy :P


Yeah, heaps.. my rolling diameter is 22mm more than my 17s...:)

I'd try the idea of swapping for an 8" wide rim, that way you keep the sexy 20's and can push the top out with standard kind of kits to correct the camber. 8" wide tyres would probably be even cheaper too.

I'd try the idea of swapping for an 8" wide rim, that way you keep the sexy 20's and can push the top out with standard kind of kits to correct the camber. 8" wide tyres would probably be even cheaper too.


Not gunna change wheels or tyres as ive given a magna the "PHAT" look that i always wanted... :D

Well after two weeks of busting my brains to try and fix the problem i have a solution..

Kmac are gunna Custom make me some adjustable bolts for the bottom arms and then im hopping i can still push the tops out nearly 1 degrees.. the bolts will correct 1-1.5 degrees..

If i can knock two degrees off ill be happy.. that will get back to the one degree mark..

So ill will have top and bottom camber kits then..:P

Well after two weeks of busting my brains to try and fix the problem i have a solution..

Kmac are gunna Custom make me some adjustable bolts for the bottom arms and then im hopping i can still push the tops out nearly 1 degrees.. the bolts will correct 1-1.5 degrees..

If i can knock two degrees off ill be happy.. that will get back to the one degree mark..

So ill will have top and bottom camber kits then..:P

Oldddd news :P How you going chief, what time you leave Port?

Oldddd news

Just because you had first hand info..:P

It aint old news to the rest of these fools..

I left about 230pm Monday..


Oh im going back to Kmac this morning.. They may be gunna make me a fully adjustable bottom arm so i can correct more camber and not have to worry about the top at all..:P