Hi guy's

I've pretty much completed my system so far I have

Eclipse 5444 Deck
Apline V12 1x1000 powering Titanium series 12" Eclpise Sub (750 Wrms)
Alpine V12 4x100 powering DynAudio System 240GT's (splits) and some busted ass 7 year old pioneer 6x9s that have been in every car I ever owned (3 so far)

Obviously this is a fairly high quality setup except for the 6x9's and most people tell me it's no big deal, the 6x9's are just rear fill you dont really need to change them and you prolly wont notice that bigger differance. Well that may be so but I will never be happy unless I completly round off this system with some high quality 6x9's.

So I need some suggestions! I am happy to spend say another $600 on them as long as they sound nice and crisp and can handle a good wack of mid bass. I listen Mostly to Drum and Bass, but like to crank up the heavy metal on occasions to!

So what Do you reckon ?? Or do you think with this kinda system I shouldnt be a tight ass and spend a little more on the 6x9's ????

Oh and yes I am Obsessed! :nuts:

What have you got in the way of door/boot prep?

Sound deadening? Baffles? Sealed your service holes?

The system is only half done otherwise...

As for rears, your Dyn's should be loud enough as it is? If so, why muddy your stage and imaging with rears?

Do you go to a concert and stand backwards?

Tim , Enough with the Staging Stuff.. Not everyone Likes a Front Focussed System.. Do you go to a NightClub and Wear Headphones??(Not Unless your the DJ)

I would be llooking at Going Eclipse, VIBE or Boston for 6x9's to accompany that Set up..

For MidBass attack, Soundstream and CDT would be the Way to go
Only Problem you have to be Careful of is Mounting Depth..
Too deep Magnet Structure will hit the Boot Struts..

Tim , Enough with the Staging Stuff.. Not everyone Likes a Front Focussed System.. Do you go to a NightClub and Wear Headphones??(Not Unless your the DJ)
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Depends on taste really, obviously it depends on where you like the focus. I find at concerts where all the speakers are up front, to be lacking a little in the rear. That's why i like clubs and that's why i have rears in my car :). Though i'm sure Tim and others see it the opposite way, all comes down to personal taste :).

rears are important because in magnamaras car when i drove it the jl audio 6x9s rears did not like being with the alpine type s splits. when driving the car and had to do a head check it sounded like only one side of my head was under water. a very uncomfortable feeling. so spend some money just not nearly as much as the front setup

Yep, I agree with Magnat. CDT definitely.... also look at Focal, Hertz and Boston. The Vibe jobbies are quite nice and are fairly cheap compared to others.

Don't think Dyn does 6x9's (can't think ATM), but although I also like all-round sound, I would not be running these at anywhere near the level of your splits. I'd go no higher than 40% level.

I doubt you've even heard a proper SQ system Magnat (no a proper SQ system is not just one with the rears turned off), so please hold your judgement until you do. I have heard and used to be the same in terms of rears and 6x9's then I got into car audio and know how good a car can sound by doing a few simple things (even with budget components)

Evidently staging has nothing to do with headphones, as headphones with speakers right next to your ears don't stage at all.

Anyway back to helping people out... still interested what Jorre has in the way of prep. Money might be better spent in other areas.

jorre what do you want from your setup? Primarily as loud as possible? If so spending that much on your rears sounds like the plan. Most 6x9's will handle more power with less rattles. If you want a well rounded setup with good frequency response and sharp imaging, consider not running your rears as high(if at all), definetly not overpowering your fronts.
As always baffles are the way to go, it also helps if you can seal off the boot as much as possible from the cabin, (to stop cancellation from the rear wave)
Deadening your rear parcel shelf helps stop unwanted resonances

They are great for entertaining rear passengers, and at low levels can help raise your soundstage.

Peace

Tim

I am more Keen on sound quality than quantity! Staging isnt really a problem as the eclipse 5444 has time alignment. The boot is in the process of sound deadening but nothing has been done with the factory 6x9 hole's but I will look at doing that when I get the speakers.

Basically I do prefer the sound to be coming all around! rather than just from the front and I'd like a good quality set off 6x9's to replace the **** one's I currently have. ATM they are running about 20-30% of the power the fronts are. thats not likely to change much as the SQ from the fronts is always going to be better than 6x9's so I dont want the 6x9's overpowering them.

Sorry for my delays in replying I work 12hour days and it takes a while for me to get a chance to respond! But I appreciate EVERYONE's input

I doubt you've even heard a proper SQ system Magnat
They are great for entertaining rear passengers, and at low levels can help raise your soundstage.

Peace

Tim

jorre Asked for 6x9's, not a lecture on Prep..

I have Heard Countless SQ Systems s_tim_ulate from 4-way Front Door Set ups with Time Alignment and all the Fancy Stuff in between to simple Splits up front to woofers down back with No Subs in site..
Not Everyone Wants an SQ system, lets advise them on what they want to hear...

Lets focus on helping and less on argueing..

You only want a Subtle ambience from behind
If this is the Case, why not Retro fit a Set of 6.5 inch 2-way's into the Factory hole??
This will give you the rear fill you desire ??

Hi guys, Ive said it a few times but I will say it again.. I worked in a car stero shop for several years and set my system up for SPL at some stages and Sound quality at other times.

Time Alignment is great - Most high end decks can help you out with that.

You only want a Subtle ambience from behind <-- This is true.

$600 is about all I would spend on rear speakers.

Get some 6 x 9" Two ways so you dont drown out your front splits ( not sure about the DynAudio System 240GT's ) I havent played around with them myself.

If your front are 6" and tweeter look at getting a 3way set so you cover more range in the front.

RE the 6 x 9" make them a good brand *I can tell you will @ $600 LoL and pump them with at least 100rms. This will give you the added mid range Bass that your system needs for SQ.

- Adam