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Matty_J
07-04-2006, 03:48 PM
Hey guys, by the way i am a Noob here so go easy! Now i have a 2.4L Te and im wondering what i should do and what i shouldnt do, i already have my rims and yes i know it needs lowering which is my first Step! but performance wise i aint got a clue im thinking to start off with a sports exhaust system. Any ideas would be great. Cheers
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Nexus
07-04-2006, 04:19 PM
Welcome to AMC, as much as I do have a TE 2.4 too, I didnt tune it for performance. Do be careful on type of exhaust, though is one of the cheaper upgrades that can be done easily it also could make your fuel consumption higher. Do a search on exhausts and mufflers to learn more on these.

Good luck on your mods.

Ashneel
07-04-2006, 04:20 PM
performance wise u can get your self a K&N panal or pod filter. exhaust system will be great but dont know wat type or size will be good for a 2.4L 4cyl.

and welcome to the club bud

gremlin
07-04-2006, 04:27 PM
Mate, you might find this rude but this is how it is..

depending how much of a performance gain your looking for, the cheapest way to gain power COULD be to sell your car and get another magna with a V6 manual... might cost you a few grand change over but would work out cheaper I THINK in the long run than trying to get the 2.4 even equal to that of a stock V6

Matty_J
07-04-2006, 05:24 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, And yeh i have been told by a few ppl that im better off to buy a v6 manual if i wish to get max performance, but then again ive heard of ppl who have decent 2.4's. I really dont want to buy a new car as yet although i did pick mine up for 3,500 in GC. so i could get a bit more for it if i was to sell it! but im still confused LOL!

Nexus
07-04-2006, 05:46 PM
What is said was most true, if you are looking to rev it up, please dont bother to spent it.
In which why my car is not going for any lowering nor high class rims atm.

Spent on simple mods to make your car nice and enjoy the ride. I thought about it for a long time and decided my mods are pretty enough, anymore I am better off getting a newer magna. Take it easy and just go with the flow.

Matty_J
07-04-2006, 06:47 PM
Thanks Nexus, i dont think ill be doing to much to it! but after having a read on these forums i think ill be going ahead with getting my exhaust system! Just deciding which one would actually benefit the most! After all if im going to be driving it for the next yr or so i would rather drive with a tad more power! :D Has anyone here worked there 2.4?

Ford fella
07-04-2006, 07:08 PM
check out the RPW website, the 2.4l is one of the most underrated mitsubishi 4 cylinder engines, i say if you want a hot 4cyl do what you wish, the main reason alot of people are against hotting up a 2.4 is coz there scared of the unknown

Matty_J
07-04-2006, 08:23 PM
Thanks Ford_Fella another conflicting comment! Although you have provided me with some hope! Got any ideas??:D

Nexus
08-04-2006, 02:31 AM
Well I was about to change when an AMC member told me to stick with the stock as I dont really need to change it unless its spoiled. Frankly my fuel consumption is going well for a 4cyl and reaching 500km min on a full tank in city driving. Test your avg and then when you mod your exhaust let us know the honest difference.

I would suggest to go with sports exhaust rather than Canon but is all up to you.

Matty_J
08-04-2006, 05:36 AM
Yeh ive booked it in and will either be going with the redback system! Although my mate at exhaustworld in nrth melbourne has told me that the berklee has better sound as a few have complained about the redback system not having a good sound! ppl who have the berklee system have said it does the same job as the redback system just with better sound!!
anyone else noticed this! but regardless ill be getting my exhaust system monday so ill let ya know if there is much change in performance & Fuel!

Ford fella
08-04-2006, 07:56 AM
my other half's 2.4 auto wagon gets 520k to a tank of town driving with a hotdog and a genuine ralliart rear muffler and it sounds good too and makes more power than it did with a cannon

Sports
08-04-2006, 08:48 AM
my other half's 2.4 auto wagon gets 520k to a tank of town driving with a hotdog and a genuine ralliart rear muffler and it sounds good too and makes more power than it did with a cannon


Yeah but my 3.5 manual gets 550-600ks around town to 58lt's, on the highway I can get 750-800ks out of it. Me personally I would'nt bother with the 2.4, unless it immaculate. The V6s make the power standard and they sound lovely with a good exhaust setup on them and mines very economical since I put a K&N filter on and 100mm intake piping. It's still got the stock VRX ehxuast to.

Ford fella
08-04-2006, 10:42 AM
well hey i guess it's each to there own, but i can't see why everyone is against a 2.4 that has 105kw stock and a 3.0l that has not much more power, plus rego is cheaper and the look on the v6 boy's and girl's faces when they see how little is in the egine bay after you dust them *edit* would be *edit* priceless :bowrofl:


oh yeah forgot to add there is a qld member who's 2.4 tf has appeared in magazines and has various awards (including top 6cyl lmao)

gremlin
08-04-2006, 10:44 AM
check out the RPW website, the 2.4l is one of the most underrated mitsubishi 4 cylinder engines, i say if you want a hot 4cyl do what you wish, the main reason alot of people are against hotting up a 2.4 is coz there scared of the unknown

not scared of the unknown my friend.... the facts are very well known.. a 2.4 litre motor in a car as big as a magna is not right.. even mitsu worked it out in the end and dropped the 4 cylinder all together...... even fuel consumption is nearly the same as the V6 cause the 4 cylinder has to work that much harder to do the same job.....

no point in telling this guy to pump his hard earned cash into the car to try and get it to perform well...its just directing him in the wrong way and wasting his cash.... like i said, if he wants to go quicker, save the heartache and money and get a V6

gremlin
08-04-2006, 10:46 AM
the look on the v6 boy's and girl's faces when they see how little is in the negine bay after you dust them is priceless :bowrofl:


riiiight.. so who is that has this 2.4litre that "dusts" v6s????

Matty_J
08-04-2006, 10:56 AM
Yeh i would like to see the worked 2.4!!! i dont really want POWER!! but i do need more of a kick!! as i have said i did pick up 2.4 Te for 3,500 so if i was to sell it i would be making profit regardless, im prepared to sell her by the end of this Yr but for now i need to do something to give her a little more kick! but im not prepared to spend another 3 g's on the engine just to have equal power as a stock v6!!

Ford fella
08-04-2006, 10:59 AM
please show me where i said "put all your money in to a 2.4" all i was saying is that if he wants to make a powerfull 4cyl go ahead and do it,

so many people on here complain that workshops laugh at them when they go in and ask to get there V6 hotted up yet here is guy's with V6's telling 4cyl guy's to just get a V6, basically the same thing a workshop is doing,

if someone here wanted to pour the cash into a 2.4 that some guys had put into there V6 it would make the 2.4 hammer,


a bit like the post i posted up about the kj manual conversion and people said just sell it and buy a manual, a factory kj manual i would love to see, people modify there cars for self satisfaction and if that is a manual verada, a hot 2.4 or a supercharged V6 let them do it don't just say sell your car and buy a V6 or a manual, sure say i believe you may be able to get more power from a V6 than a 2.4 but if your not 100% sure and don't have facts to back it up i wouldn't tell them to blow a few grand changeover

Ford fella
08-04-2006, 11:01 AM
also just to add comparing a 4cyl magna and a V6 is like comparing a commodore and HSV same body yet so different

Matty_J
08-04-2006, 11:08 AM
From all the info i have gathered i think ill do some work to the engine!! can anyone give me some info on the best products to get and an approx price?? so for eg get your exhaust first etc.... cheers boys any help would be great!

*EDIT* is it possible to chip the 2.4 if so is there any difference??

gremlin
08-04-2006, 11:43 AM
if someone here wanted to pour the cash into a 2.4 that some guys had put into there V6 it would make the 2.4 hammer

make it hammer? no id say if you poured a lot of money into a 2.4litre it would go like a stock V6..

mate, if your the kind of person that likes to be real different, thats great.. :confused:

i think you'd be nuts to poor any money into a 4 cylinder magna but thats MY opinion

i would just drive the 4 cylinder magna until i decide ive had enough and want more power.. sell the 4 cylinder and buy something else... V6 magna or whatever he wants...

Matty_J
08-04-2006, 11:47 AM
make it hammer? no id say if you poured a lot of money into a 2.4litre it would go like a stock V6..

mate, if your the kind of person that likes to be real different, thats great.. :confused:

i think you'd be nuts to poor any money into a 4 cylinder magna but thats MY opinion

i would just drive the 4 cylinder magna until i decide ive had enough and want more power.. sell the 4 cylinder and buy something else... V6 magna or whatever he wants...

Ok so are u saying that no matter what i put into this engine oit can onyl reach the max of a stock V6??

Ford fella
08-04-2006, 01:44 PM
no you could get it to go harder but depends what avenue you wnat to go, with forcved induction there is heaps of ower avalible for engines now days, just depends on money insurance etc

Matty_J
08-04-2006, 01:52 PM
no you could get it to go harder but depends what avenue you wnat to go, with forcved induction there is heaps of ower avalible for engines now days, just depends on money insurance etc

ok like what?? im not 2 low on cash! i just add to my car every fortnight! pay day woot!
so yeh money aint a concern but insurance is!! :D

M4DDOG
08-04-2006, 03:43 PM
The only way you're going to get much more power than a v6 is forced induction. As for making profit on your car, you'd be lucky to get more than $4k for it.
There was a guy that did up a 2.4L seriously with N/A applications, $10k into the engine and all it did was bring it up to about the same as a standard 3.0L.
I agree with gremlin, if you want power, go V6, if you want to be unique, keep your car and go forced induction, it's the only way!

Matty_J
08-04-2006, 04:13 PM
The only way you're going to get much more power than a v6 is forced induction. As for making profit on your car, you'd be lucky to get more than $4k for it.
There was a guy that did up a 2.4L seriously with N/A applications, $10k into the engine and all it did was bring it up to about the same as a standard 3.0L.
I agree with gremlin, if you want power, go V6, if you want to be unique, keep your car and go forced induction, it's the only way!

Nah man i dont intend on spending 10K i just want some advice on what 2 buy to give it more kick! i dont need it to race i just want more power out of it and willing to spend around 2-3k!!

M4DDOG
08-04-2006, 08:21 PM
Nah man i dont intend on spending 10K i just want some advice on what 2 buy to give it more kick! i dont need it to race i just want more power out of it and willing to spend around 2-3k!!
Extractors, exhaust, maybe even cams if they're available, cai with pod/panel.
That'd be your best bet.

Nexus
09-04-2006, 01:06 AM
Nah man i dont intend on spending 10K i just want some advice on what 2 buy to give it more kick! i dont need it to race i just want more power out of it and willing to spend around 2-3k!!

Lol, you dont need all of what is said from all of us if you do not intend to race. Trust me, my 2.4 goes on par with the V6 on the road, you hardly will know is a 2.4 till you look hard enough. If you just want just a bit of more kick just go for those K&N filters, make your car looks solid and you re done. dont go and hyper tune your engine etc..... if you going for Exhaust looks, is a fair excuse to change it.

I can give you a bet if I just place a V6 badge on the side of my car, no one will know.
Quoted from Bain:"Is still a Magna"
So there aint going to be much hoohar about this. The V6 definately has more power for country driving etc... but when in city we all go at 60kmh, who going to tell or know?
Hell I have met AMC members who said the power of it is still there even though is 2.4L.

Just enjoy your ride, you bought it cheap, dont expect it too be something is not. Mod it moderately and with class knowing the 2.4L is not meant to compete with others, nuff said not just with V6 cars but STI, skylines and whatever. I mean dont bother going there even, if you were hard up for it, you would have gotten a different car altogether.

You might want to class it up with parabolic head lights since you have the cash, I did for my 2.4L and it looks like some high class sedan now. I wouldnt be bothered about all other mods as they are in a secondary list. I would save my money for a TL when the time comes for me to change a new Magna. Dont feel pressurised to change parts and keep modding wasting good money on a good enough car to drive around. You might have the impression that you bought the wrong Magna or **** I needed more power so I must upgrade this and that. Just keep in mind the differences between the 4 Cyl and the V6. If you think you bought wrong car than sell this one and buy the V6. If you are contented just pimp it up to your budget and keep in mind how much you are spending. Most of them have said is not worth trying to upgrade it to the performance of the V6 so let it be. IMO I love the 4 cyl just as much as any 3rd gen.

Matty_J
09-04-2006, 08:03 AM
Nexus i know what your saying Although if u read my posts i said i dont want it to compete or race others! But i do like 2 feel power when im driving! Of course its a 2.4 litre and im not going to get power of a V6 unless i pour the $$$ into it! im not willing to do that i love my 2.4l and i dont wish 2 sell it i could of by now if i wanted a V6! but i just want some extra power that is all, as i know the 2.4 can produce a Tad more power! so im gonna take most of your advice and just go with the new exhaust K&N filters etc.... the rest on visual! so ill let u guys know how the exhaust and filters go! should be getting most of it done by monday! anyone got Prices on the filters???

Nexus
09-04-2006, 08:51 AM
Nexus i know what your saying Although if u read my posts i said i dont want it to compete or race others! But i do like 2 feel power when im driving! Of course its a 2.4 litre and im not going to get power of a V6 unless i pour the $$$ into it! im not willing to do that i love my 2.4l and i dont wish 2 sell it i could of by now if i wanted a V6! but i just want some extra power that is all, as i know the 2.4 can produce a Tad more power! so im gonna take most of your advice and just go with the new exhaust K&N filters etc.... the rest on visual! so ill let u guys know how the exhaust and filters go! should be getting most of it done by monday! anyone got Prices on the filters???

Filters cost about $120 or so, let me know is this is great as I was still thinking about it.

Matty_J
09-04-2006, 09:00 AM
Filters cost about $120 or so, let me know is this is great as I was still thinking about it.

Will do mate im hoping it is worth it for the $$$ cause my spoiler is costing me 350 painted & fitted aswell as my clear aftermarket lights for 220! so about a G all up with exhaust, filters, lights, spoiler *sighs* cause i wont make my money when i sell it later on!
Probs just give it to my G/F! :nuts:

Ford fella
09-04-2006, 11:42 AM
go to the qld section, they sell K & N filters in there at a good price cheaper than anywhere

Matty_J
09-04-2006, 03:41 PM
go to the qld section, they sell K & N filters in there at a good price cheaper than anywhere

Cheers mate! :D

Matty_J
10-04-2006, 11:24 AM
Well i got the Redback exhaust system fitted about an HR ago! And for the 400 odd dollars it cost me i can notice a difference already! Wont really know untill i take her on a cruise but will be doing so shortly! but if ur running a 2.4L defintley worth the $$$.

SaiR
12-04-2006, 01:25 PM
well done..congrats and good to see that some ppl do car about the 2.4's lol :D like me

my cars modded..n its a 2.4 cyl.... when i first got it and came on the forums i got the same advice sell it.its a waste...... :doubt: what about all the 1st/2nd gens are they are a waste too.. should everyone sell them.... not all of us are made of money and we do what we can with what we have

.if i had wanted more power yeah sure i woulda got a v6 but i got my 4.. it goes, it looks good n thats all i care about...:cool:

as its been said, if u like ur car thats all that matters

i brought my car for one reason only and that was i needed a car which was newish fairly safe for my newborn and could fit a pram and groceries in it etc and still have boot space... i then decided hell... whynot put some rims on it/lowered it and made it look pretty and paint up the interior so it looks different.. sure i put alot of $$ into it, but isnt that my choice

my 2cents not that anyone cares:D

M4DDOG
12-04-2006, 01:34 PM
I've seen your wagon in the flesh, it looks pimp!

Matty_J
14-04-2006, 07:38 AM
well done..congrats and good to see that some ppl do car about the 2.4's lol :D like me

my cars modded..n its a 2.4 cyl.... when i first got it and came on the forums i got the same advice sell it.its a waste...... :doubt: what about all the 1st/2nd gens are they are a waste too.. should everyone sell them.... not all of us are made of money and we do what we can with what we have

.if i had wanted more power yeah sure i woulda got a v6 but i got my 4.. it goes, it looks good n thats all i care about...:cool:

as its been said, if u like ur car thats all that matters

i brought my car for one reason only and that was i needed a car which was newish fairly safe for my newborn and could fit a pram and groceries in it etc and still have boot space... i then decided hell... whynot put some rims on it/lowered it and made it look pretty and paint up the interior so it looks different.. sure i put alot of $$ into it, but isnt that my choice

my 2cents not that anyone cares:D

Yeh i know what your saying!! A lot of ppl put down the 2.4's but i like em! with the right mods they look and sound sick! and if they were all debadged you wouldnt be able to tell the difference!! a 3rd gen is still a 3rd gen regardless of power!! And your 2 cents means a lot Cheers! By the way i would like to see some pics of your car if possible?