Hey All,
My 1000th post. Hooray.

Anyway, for those that have done a fuel injector clean, how much did it cost and was it of
bennefit. I did it as part of my 15000km service, cost an extra $95. They did a complete
fule system clean using the Fortron fuel injection service system. Noticed it had a
smoother power delivery. But that could be just a result of having a service done.

Cheers All.

Hey All,
My 1000th post. Hooray.

Anyway, for those that have done a fuel injector clean, how much did it cost and was it of
bennefit. I did it as part of my 15000km service, cost an extra $95. They did a complete
fule system clean using the Fortron fuel injection service system. Noticed it had a
smoother power delivery. But that could be just a result of having a service done.

Cheers All.

IMO, unless it's an injector ultrasonic cleaning, this type of injector servicing is worthless. Go get a bottle of redline SI-1 if you need to clean your fuel system and valve once in a while.

mate, sorry to say, u just got ripped off 100 bucks! those on car injector cleans do sweet F.A! for starters.. the service advisor wouldnt recommend it unless he or she was getting 10 dollars a can sold, and secondly, 3rd gen magnas dont have injector fouling problems! sad thing is, good chance the mechanic at the stealership didnt even carry out the job, just used the chemical to clean his greasy floor or tools! check the 2 10mm bolts on the fuel rail, see if the factory marked red paint looks wiped off, or the bolts have marks on them! more than likely, they still look fresh and untouched! :rant: message to everyone who services their car at the dealers, ALWAYS say NO to on car injector cleans, power steering flushes, air conditioning treatements etc.. they are a rort! some aftermarket additives are ok, i must admit.. but most are just a scam!

... check the 2 10mm bolts on the fuel rail, see if the factory marked red paint looks wiped off, or the bolts have marks on them!
no need to remove fuel rail, just open the gas tank cap to pur the bottle in... :badgrin:

mate, sorry to say, u just got ripped off 100 bucks! those on car injector cleans do sweet F.A! for starters.. the service advisor wouldnt recommend it unless he or she was getting 10 dollars a can sold, and secondly, 3rd gen magnas dont have injector fouling problems! sad thing is, good chance the mechanic at the stealership didnt even carry out the job, just used the chemical to clean his greasy floor or tools! check the 2 10mm bolts on the fuel rail, see if the factory marked red paint looks wiped off, or the bolts have marks on them! more than likely, they still look fresh and untouched! :rant: message to everyone who services their car at the dealers, ALWAYS say NO to on car injector cleans, power steering flushes, air conditioning treatements etc.. they are a rort! some aftermarket additives are ok, i must admit.. but most are just a scam!

I think what he's talking about is a bit more than a bottle in the fuel tank :P

I had a chat to my mechanic and he wanted to do an ultrasonic one to my car... He also had dyno graphs to prove that on a car which has done 100,000k + there is a gain of upto 5 kW :shock:

mate, sorry to say, u just got ripped off 100 bucks! those on car injector cleans do sweet F.A! for starters.. the service advisor wouldnt recommend it unless he or she was getting 10 dollars a can sold, and secondly, 3rd gen magnas dont have injector fouling problems! sad thing is, good chance the mechanic at the stealership didnt even carry out the job, just used the chemical to clean his greasy floor or tools! check the 2 10mm bolts on the fuel rail, see if the factory marked red paint looks wiped off, or the bolts have marks on them! more than likely, they still look fresh and untouched! :rant: message to everyone who services their car at the dealers, ALWAYS say NO to on car injector cleans, power steering flushes, air conditioning treatements etc.. they are a rort! some aftermarket additives are ok, i must admit.. but most are just a scam!
Firstly, injectors in all cars foul up over time.
Next they would have done an on car injector clean if they were using the fortron stuff (which also means the fuel rail wont have to come off, which at 15000klms i agree is pointless, but they would have done it.
A/C treatments are worth it, as due to the external moisture from A/C components getting into the foams used for sealing air ducts, you do get bad odours, which the a/c treatment does a good job of removing (better than glen 20 or the like).
And power steer flushes are useful if you have mixed different brand power steer fluids in the past.
I agree that some items get pushed onto the customer by the dealers a little early in a cars life, but in many cases they aren't used as a scam

also, if you do have injector problems, an on car injector clean is'nt pointless, its just that a off car one is better, but not all woorkshops/dealerships are equipped with the machines due to their cost, and the labour required to remove the injectors on some cars can be difficult to sell to the customer. where as a on car clean only requires attention at the fuel line, which is easier, hence cheaper to deal with.

Firstly, injectors in all cars foul up over time.
Next they would have done an on car injector clean if they were using the fortron stuff (which also means the fuel rail wont have to come off, which at 15000klms i agree is pointless, but they would have done it.
A/C treatments are worth it, as due to the external moisture from A/C components getting into the foams used for sealing air ducts, you do get bad odours, which the a/c treatment does a good job of removing (better than glen 20 or the like).
And power steer flushes are useful if you have mixed different brand power steer fluids in the past.
I agree that some items get pushed onto the customer by the dealers a little early in a cars life, but in many cases they aren't used as a scam


yeah mate, i know all injectors will foul etc with carbon and so on... but doesnt mean they wont work efficiently.. and not like any on car injector clean would actually dissolve it.. not wynns, fortron, M1 or anything! the carbon blast machine will, as ive used that, and that does work quite well for what it is!
also, the fuel doesnt have to come off.. who said it did???? if u know the set up of a 3rd gen, the junk cleaner is hooked up thru the fuel rail, using the attatchment hose and fitting supplied with the on car kit! so the 2 bolts from the line to the rail have to be removed in order to do it!
oh, u sure the mechanic actually did do it??? how would u know? ive seen lots of mechanics, apprentices mainly.. chuck the complete can in the bin! so, maybe they DIDNT do it! i speak with lots and lots of foremen and master techs at conferences, and they say the same about it being chucked away! im not the only one to see it!
u really reckon using the on car can will clear and flush out blocked injectors? i think not.. ive used it on a NJ pajero, TS magna and SV21 camry, all with blocked injectors.. and it did ABSOLUTELY nothing! the carbon blast machine did, as did removing injectors and ultra sonic flushing! working for mitsu for the last 10 years.. i've seen 3rd gens with 200k and over on them, and not ONE has had misfiring or rough running from blocked injectors!
as for the a/c treatment.. mate, if u wanna spend 80 or whatever dollars on it.. go for it! im quite happy having my vents set on fresh air, and using a decent air freshner... no foul smells in my car! considering its just an anti-bacterial foam.. i cant see how it is different to a can of pleasant smelling glen 20.. remove the fan, and spray up thru the ducts.. and a bit down the vents.. simple!
power steering flushes.. hhahahha.. cmon mate.. u a rep or something?? what does mixing power steering fluids do?? if the car is meant to use dexron 3.. i use it, not worrying what brand it is, and ive never seen a problem with it!

You use dextron 3 for your power steering? what do you use for your transmission then?:P :P :P

yeah mate, i know all injectors will foul etc with carbon and so on... but doesnt mean they wont work efficiently.. and not like any on car injector clean would actually dissolve it.. not wynns, fortron, M1 or anything! the carbon blast machine will, as ive used that, and that does work quite well for what it is!
also, the fuel doesnt have to come off.. who said it did???? if u know the set up of a 3rd gen, the junk cleaner is hooked up thru the fuel rail, using the attatchment hose and fitting supplied with the on car kit! so the 2 bolts from the line to the rail have to be removed in order to do it!
oh, u sure the mechanic actually did do it??? how would u know? ive seen lots of mechanics, apprentices mainly.. chuck the complete can in the bin! so, maybe they DIDNT do it! i speak with lots and lots of foremen and master techs at conferences, and they say the same about it being chucked away! im not the only one to see it!
u really reckon using the on car can will clear and flush out blocked injectors? i think not.. ive used it on a NJ pajero, TS magna and SV21 camry, all with blocked injectors.. and it did ABSOLUTELY nothing! the carbon blast machine did, as did removing injectors and ultra sonic flushing! working for mitsu for the last 10 years.. i've seen 3rd gens with 200k and over on them, and not ONE has had misfiring or rough running from blocked injectors!
as for the a/c treatment.. mate, if u wanna spend 80 or whatever dollars on it.. go for it! im quite happy having my vents set on fresh air, and using a decent air freshner... no foul smells in my car! considering its just an anti-bacterial foam.. i cant see how it is different to a can of pleasant smelling glen 20.. remove the fan, and spray up thru the ducts.. and a bit down the vents.. simple!
power steering flushes.. hhahahha.. cmon mate.. u a rep or something?? what does mixing power steering fluids do?? if the car is meant to use dexron 3.. i use it, not worrying what brand it is, and ive never seen a problem with it!

I only read the first line of this post cos of what you said... If they're fouled up with carbon... how can they work effectively!?

']You use dextron 3 for your power steering? what do you use for your transmission then?:P :P :P
i dunno if your kidding or not... but powersteering systems and automatics use similar fluids cos the fluid is used in the same way in both and therefore need the same properties

I only read the first line of this post cos of what you said... If they're fouled up with carbon... how can they work effectively!?


yes, like every part in a combustion motor.. there will be some sort of fouling, normal and won't cause a problem! but then again.. i 'spose you know what youre talking about and probably change your spark plugs each week 'cos the fouling on them is causing the motor to run rough, and the pistons each month, 'cos the carbon on the tops is casuing the motor to ping

']You use dextron 3 for your power steering? what do you use for your transmission then?:P :P :P


i use mitsubishi diamond spectrum auto transmission fluid in the auto trannies, and castrol vmx 75/85 in the manuals! if the manual gearbox is notchy when cold, i'd use the much more expensive castrol vmx-b!
and as for dexTron.. oh good Lord.... enough said!

i dunno if your kidding or not... but powersteering systems and automatics use similar fluids cos the fluid is used in the same way in both and therefore need the same properties

actually theres litttle or no difference between the 2, my last car's manual stated exacly the same fluid for auto transmission and powersteering. dont know what it says for my magna coz i dont have a manual

yeah mate, i know all injectors will foul etc with carbon and so on... but doesnt mean they wont work efficiently.. and not like any on car injector clean would actually dissolve it.. not wynns, fortron, M1 or anything! the carbon blast machine will, as ive used that, and that does work quite well for what it is!
also, the fuel doesnt have to come off.. who said it did???? if u know the set up of a 3rd gen, the junk cleaner is hooked up thru the fuel rail, using the attatchment hose and fitting supplied with the on car kit! so the 2 bolts from the line to the rail have to be removed in order to do it!
oh, u sure the mechanic actually did do it??? how would u know? ive seen lots of mechanics, apprentices mainly.. chuck the complete can in the bin! so, maybe they DIDNT do it! i speak with lots and lots of foremen and master techs at conferences, and they say the same about it being chucked away! im not the only one to see it!
u really reckon using the on car can will clear and flush out blocked injectors? i think not.. ive used it on a NJ pajero, TS magna and SV21 camry, all with blocked injectors.. and it did ABSOLUTELY nothing! the carbon blast machine did, as did removing injectors and ultra sonic flushing! working for mitsu for the last 10 years.. i've seen 3rd gens with 200k and over on them, and not ONE has had misfiring or rough running from blocked injectors!
as for the a/c treatment.. mate, if u wanna spend 80 or whatever dollars on it.. go for it! im quite happy having my vents set on fresh air, and using a decent air freshner... no foul smells in my car! considering its just an anti-bacterial foam.. i cant see how it is different to a can of pleasant smelling glen 20.. remove the fan, and spray up thru the ducts.. and a bit down the vents.. simple!
power steering flushes.. hhahahha.. cmon mate.. u a rep or something?? what does mixing power steering fluids do?? if the car is meant to use dexron 3.. i use it, not worrying what brand it is, and ive never seen a problem with it!

I'm not a rep, i'm also a mechanic, but for audi not mitsu, so i may not have had as much mitsu experience, but from what i have seen on various cars, is that on car injector cleans are efective, there main issue is that they just brake up the build up in the injectors into smaller particles which just end up floating in the fuel system causing blockages to return quicker, but they do have the advantage of flusing the fuel lines, but as i stated before i know that off car ultrasonic cleaning is better overall, but as i previoulsy mentioned not all worshops are equipped with the machinery required.
with mixing P/S fluids, some do react with each other and sludge up, and in the case of the audi's (and honda's) only the genuine fluid can be used. I have seen and replaced enough power steer components (on audi's but, all due to the use of dextron)
And for the A/C treatments, i guess its each to their own, but i have had more luck with the A/C bombs and foams than with glen 20, but, then again i'm not paying $80 for them