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where would u get this done ??
Killbilly
12-11-2003, 10:00 PM
lol@ress..you're a spazz ;)
Most engine rebuilders will do that work.
..GONE..
12-11-2003, 10:33 PM
Would it be expensive?
Any idea's on price?
SuFz :evil:
BOosted' BOoya
13-11-2003, 06:17 AM
if you guys are keen, you can give Street Torque a call, they did mine, and are a is very very very keen to get into the Magna Band wagon. He will do a Port and Polish on a Exchange basis, and im sure he'd be much cheaper then RPW. If your serious, then give Dallas a call, 08 89527755 and tell em you know booya from the forums, and im sure he will look after you.
at this stage, he's spending a lot of time and money developing a 6g72 and 6g74 engine, as he's just bought one of each that will sit in his workshop, for him to 'twinkle' with. my car will be used a a doner he will be swapping engines to see what comonents work the best etc etc. so expect some crazy shit comming out of Street Torque next year, as its all moving forward very quickly. he's also developed a Syncronised Twin Throttle Body setup for our magnas, which improved the top end breathing dramatically, with very very very little loss down low. RPW, said to me that this system wouldnt work (which he's now been proven wrong) yet alone, to my knolodge, they havent even developed a twin throttle body setup :doubt:
so guys, think what you want but soon we will have Street Torque in the Magna Modifying Cart and we will be promising some seriously strong competition against RPW, and producing a car to compete with daves TT :D
CYPHER-VRX
13-11-2003, 07:52 AM
A port & polish shop :lol: 8)
Good call mate, you crack me up :!: :D :D
MAGWGN
13-11-2003, 07:58 AM
where would u get this done ??
:shock: a brothel? :shock: :D :D :D
nah seriously, i thought any decent performance mechanics or reco place could do this?
MAGNA
13-11-2003, 08:27 AM
Let's all move to the NT now :D
Does he (Dallas/Street Torque) have an e-mail address? :?
BOosted' BOoya
13-11-2003, 08:42 AM
not as yet, but we will be doing so in the next week or so :D
Ben.
Killbilly
13-11-2003, 12:39 PM
When I was enquiring about an engine reco the guy said it would be an extra 600 I think, cheaper because the engine was already pulled apart.
So my guess is 800 bucks maybe?
Im not 100% sure as I dont have the pricing anymore, coz I got the new motor.
cthulhu
13-11-2003, 03:11 PM
he's also developed a Syncronised Twin Throttle Body setup for our magnas... RPW, said to me that this system wouldnt work (which he's now been proven wrong) yet alone, to my knolodge, they havent even developed a twin throttle body setup :doubt:
I wonder how much that has to do with you not having a MAF sensor any more?
BOosted' BOoya
13-11-2003, 03:20 PM
[quote:1ffcc1a6e6="BOoya Motorsport"]he's also developed a Syncronised Twin Throttle Body setup for our magnas... RPW, said to me that this system wouldnt work (which he's now been proven wrong) yet alone, to my knolodge, they havent even developed a twin throttle body setup :doubt:
I wonder how much that has to do with you not having a MAF sensor any more?[/quote:1ffcc1a6e6]
Dave from RPW KNOWS too well that i dont run that MAF sensor, and he was still adimate that it would not work!
he said that getting the two butterflys to be in sync with eachother was the problem, and bugga me dead, the way we have it set up, they are in perfect sync!!!
so, i dont think that MAF sensor is an excuse. having said that, any kind of twin throttle body setup is NOT compatable with the stock ECU unit. so there we go again, once again, no MAF unit is in question.
Ice_Magik
13-11-2003, 03:43 PM
yer mention booya from the forums
thats sure to get ya a 40% markup
RessurectoR
13-11-2003, 04:03 PM
yer mention booya from the forums
thats sure to get ya a 40% markup
and a "Sympathy" card..
lol.. so youre suggesting everyone send their engines to a guy in the Northern Territory.. ahhhhhhhhhhh :?:
Redav
13-11-2003, 07:12 PM
so there we go again, once again, no MAF unit is in question.
So, what's it using to measure air? Is it a Haltech unit? What are you measuring? Air mass, temp, flow vacuum or something else?
BOosted' BOoya
13-11-2003, 07:24 PM
[quote="BOoya Motorsportso there we go again, once again, no MAF unit is in question.
So, what's it using to measure air? Is it a Haltech unit? What are you measuring? Air mass, temp, flow vacuum or something else?[/quote]
gerr. how do i explain this.. ill try my best.:
as such the Haltech doesnt need to read "air flow" or anything like this. damn this is hard to explain. um ok.
the mitsu ECU adjusts its "maps" by using sensors and working stuff out to put it simply. if car gets hotter then the ecu will adjust for this. if more air comes in, it adjusts for this.
haltech: runs on a "Static" map, its tuned for on the assumption that it can get x amount of air. if it gets more, then it cant make use if it, as it cant "learn". if it get less air then specified in "x" then the engine will just run like a slug/wont operate to what it wants to operate.
everytime you add a new mod etc, you will need to "tell" the haltech/greddy etc what the new "X" pramater is. gerr. hard to explain but i hope you can kinda un-tangle this mess :S
Redav
13-11-2003, 07:29 PM
Okay, that means that wild temperature vairations will affect your ecconomy? So, it's probably tuned so it won't run lean but chances are you could well run quite rich at times?
Also, sounds the same as a Magna anyway when you're full throttle. Has a fixed fuel curve.
Killbilly
13-11-2003, 10:28 PM
Hey Booya, out of curiosity.
Do you have to load maps when the engine is off? Or can you do it while the car is running? And if so, can you notice it change maps?
I just thought of that when I was reading your post...Im intrigued. ;)
BOosted' BOoya
14-11-2003, 05:33 AM
Hey Booya, out of curiosity.
Do you have to load maps when the engine is off? Or can you do it while the car is running? And if so, can you notice it change maps?
I just thought of that when I was reading your post...Im intrigued. ;)
everything you do with the haltech is "realtime" when its getting dyno tuned, "you" are tuining there and then, not turning off the engine, then make chagnged. then turnon car.
everthing is 'realtime' :D
Madmagna
14-11-2003, 06:42 AM
The Haltech uses a MAP sensor Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor.
It measures the amount of vacum or pressure and the changes occuring in the inlet manifold and and is able to give a reading from this.
SOme also use the Throttle Position Switch as a guide for WOT and closed throttle indications.
In some situations there as also a variable TPS avail that is used for even more accurate readings.
Killbilly
14-11-2003, 08:31 AM
Booya, yeah I realised the tuning was real time, just wasnt sure if loading the maps were..
Thanks :D
Redav
14-11-2003, 09:14 AM
Booya, he's talking about when you're driven for 300km's on the econ map then find a set of lights with 3 commodore drivers waiting for some easy bait. Can you change the map that the ECU is using while sitting at the lights and then cane them?
Mitsiman
14-11-2003, 09:41 AM
Actually to clarify Booya - I did not say that the twin throttle body system would not work only that we had not done that yet.
There is no value in doing a system on each end of the throttle body for the majority of Magna owners as they are not in a position to remove the air flow meter like you have. Once you fit programmable aftermarket computers that changes everything.
WE in fact have nearly finished a twin throttle body system with a redesigned intake manifold to be suitable for all magna's with a air flow meter and single air inlet system with only the need for a Greddy E-Manage and true synchronisation.
As for cylinder heads - RPW has in stock at all times an exchaneg set of complete port and polished cylinder heads ready to bolt on to the vehicle.
We also do the heads available with camshafts and valve springs which are fitted labour free.
Redav
14-11-2003, 09:52 AM
Dave, you're twin throttle bodies, is that an arrangement that looks like a double barrel shotgun when looking into it? If you know what I mean? Or is it something totally different?
Mitsiman
14-11-2003, 10:10 AM
Yes it will be a side by side twin throttle body system with the intake manifold cut up an re welded so that three manifold runners go to each throttle body independant of the other three.
Means we can then run a true twin nozzle nitrous system with equal distribution of air and fuel down each manifold and stop the manifold from leaning out on the rear banks with nitrous and running rich on normal running because they get the least air.
Redav
14-11-2003, 01:57 PM
Means we can then run a true twin nozzle nitrous system with equal distribution of air and fuel down each manifold and stop the manifold from leaning out on the rear banks with nitrous and running rich on normal running because they get the least air.
Holy crap! You're one crazy dude, Dave. Kinda logical though.
[THUGDOUT]
14-11-2003, 05:48 PM
booya man you used to be about the love of cars, now ur in it for th money mannnnn u've sold out mannnnnnnn its freaking me outt mannnnnnn fuucckkkkkkkkkkkk ayyyyyy mannnnnn WOAHHHHHHH seriously ur like an advert now booya u mention street torque 50 times in a post, how many users on this forum are going to goto Street Torque in the NT? not many, does his stuff get sold in other stores?
MAGWGN
15-11-2003, 02:46 PM
ive been feeling kinda the same thing. its great that you have had the oppurtunity to be sponsored booya as it is that there are more people starting to realise there is a great potential in magna modifications, but i think your letting it all go to your head a bit. dave and all the guys at RPW took a huge risk when they decided to specialise in magnas, and they have put alot of their own time and money on the line for us, the magna drivers. no matter who you are or who's stuff you wanna use or who sponsors you, these guys deserve our thanks and respect for what they have done, not just our baggings and slander now they may be the competition. dont doubt we are all eager to see what you guys in the NT can come up with, and ultimately its only gonna mean good stuff for all us guys in the market due to the increase in quality options and the effect competition will have on prices, but lets not try and turn this into a sledging match and loose sight of the fact we are all here because of one thing. we drive, like, some even love, and all have a desire to turn our cars into the best magnas we can, and munch any commo/falcon/jap box along the way! so lets keep the love guys! keep the love!
P.S. **** ITS HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARCTIC TE
15-11-2003, 04:04 PM
they usually charge between 80 100 bucks 4 1 hour work on p&p what would this twin throttle body set up cost ready to bolt on package ?
Redav
15-11-2003, 04:07 PM
Dave, any thoughts about extrude honing?
TBuTcher
15-11-2003, 08:28 PM
...dave and all the guys at RPW took a huge risk when they decided to specialise in magnas...
Thats not true... RPW sell parts for differnt Mitsubishi modals and also Hyundai and I think others as well. .... Not just Magnas!
Haydn
MAGWGN
15-11-2003, 09:18 PM
i know this but im pretty sure if you looked at the percentages of work they do for magnas compared to the other models it would be a big difference, and it is also evident in the amount of work they have done developing a large range of high performance modifications for them. i didnt write that post to talk up RPW or to put anyone down. i probably should have kept it to a pm with booya but we worked things out and its all cool. i just think people should think abit more diplomatically before they write some posts, thats all.
Redav
15-11-2003, 10:13 PM
Yes, the dollars probably out weigh the others at the moment with the TT but they have developed a reasonable amount of stuff for the various Lancer models, FTO's and probably earlier stuff like Cordias and Signams etc. They do Mitsu, Hyundai and Proton, (who use stuff from Mitsu).
Mitsiman
17-11-2003, 10:30 AM
Thanks for the comment guy's
You are not far from teh truth though we pretty much these days 90% of the work we do is spread evenly between teh new lancer and the magna.
We still work on the older cars but they are a very small fraction of our work.
The magna section we include the USA Galant / Eclipse vehicles which are a smaller version of our magna with the same engine.
I agree also - lets not turn this into a RPW V Booya thing. Its great to see his car up and running and doing well congrats on the twin throttle body we didn't design the same as him because of the MAF sensor setup and we have gone a different path.
Additionaly we also sell a lot of our stuff to Street Torque in the NT so don't be surprised to see RPW components being stocked and marketed by Street torque in the future. :D Discussions are a happening.
cthulhu
17-11-2003, 10:34 AM
Now all you need to do is get an alliance with a performance shop in Darwin ;)
Killbilly
17-11-2003, 10:43 AM
and we have gone a different path.
That's right, we cant expect RPW to research and develop every possible mod. So the more places that work on it the better as it will give us more mods to do :D Also when are you opening a store in Sydney Dave?? lol
:p
MAGWGN
17-11-2003, 11:20 AM
thats one thing ill back up. you really need to work on something for sydney/east coast. your contacts here are crap. your site says we cant get stuff directly from you but its impossible to get it from your contacts either.
Redav
17-11-2003, 11:56 AM
Definately. They used to have somewhere in Brisbane but not any longer.
TBuTcher
17-11-2003, 12:05 PM
In Brisbane it was GSA...
But they stoped due to a few problems with bits-n-pieces.
Haydn
Mitsiman
17-11-2003, 03:00 PM
Australia is a little different I should restate my website to state that in australia you can always deal eithe with RPW or one of our dealers but outside of australia you must deal with a dealer if possible.
Love to open up in Sydney - but one problem - when they make it relaxed and easy as Perth then I will move over there :D
Unfortunatly since that is not going to happen, I will have to stay in perth and keep sending stuff over to Sydney.
Killbilly
17-11-2003, 03:18 PM
You dont have to move over to open another franchise tho Dave ;)
lol
Tiphareth
17-11-2003, 04:24 PM
hehe true. both of ya :)
MAGWGN
17-11-2003, 04:54 PM
ive got plenty of time on my hands. id be happy to work as a distributor/dealer for you. and you can pay me in parts. :D
oh and im not joking. my backs stuffed so i really have to find a job that isnt full labour but isnt stuck behind a desk, PM me with your best offer.
Killbilly
17-11-2003, 09:56 PM
If you're willing to teach I'm willing to learn and work. I'd even work for free for a week to get to know the place etc.
So you have some willing workers here Dave!
And I'm serious too :)
Mitsiman
18-11-2003, 08:30 AM
Thanks for the offers guy's but the problem is I would need to teach someone for a year or more before i would feel comfortable recomending them for fitment etc on customers cars.
We are very strict about who we use to market our products. The firm must be an established firm and have a website etc to be able to market our products.
For fitting of our products we are even stricter they must have expereience with Mitsubishi and have a good reputation.
We got caught early with firms who were not good at either and it hurts our reputation too much when things go wrong.
Killbilly
18-11-2003, 08:52 AM
Well I'll come over to Perth for a year ;) lol
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