Hi everyone

Just bought a TF Magna Wagon 3.0L and it’s done just over 200,000km’s and I was wondering what should I change as part of service? Considering that engine oil and filter are normal every 5,000km but when should I do transmission service and change belts including timing belt, spar plugs and also valve stem seals would that be recommended to change? Is there anything else you guy’s suggest when the car is done this much km’s?
Thanks to all.

Transmission oil should be replaced every 1 to 2 years, although many people neglect this. The engine oil doesn't need to be done at 5000, actually I think the service interval is 15000km with a good oil? I have a Magna TP and using a good synthetic blend oil like Penrite HPR15 10000km service interval.

Has it had its every 100,000km service? The platinum sparkies at the back will need changing if it hasn't, and if the transmission oil hasn't been changed in the a while that too. I recommend running an engine cleaner oil additive and using Penrite HPR 10, and for transmission Penrite ATF Auto MHP. I recommend these oils as not because they're 100 percent Australian, but because they're probably the best oils you can get!

Hi everyone

Just bought a TF Magna Wagon 3.0L and it’s done just over 200,000km’s and I was wondering what should I change as part of service? Considering that engine oil and filter are normal every 5,000km but when should I do transmission service and change belts including timing belt, spar plugs and also valve stem seals would that be recommended to change? Is there anything else you guy’s suggest when the car is done this much km’s?
Thanks to all.

You probably got most correct by having 5000k or alternatively 7000k for oil change. I wouldnt push to 10000k as that is plain lazy that you are not caring even if its an excellent grade IMO. Note: 7000k should be pure Syn oil. 5000 is good for blend. If you are on budget then just use the normal oil change every 5000k. Most shops recommend the standard of Synthetic blend.

Auto trans oil indicate 115000 in manual (may be wrong as I am just remembering here) but I suggest every 80000k or 100000k. Use only Mitsubishi recommended. Change your ATF filter as well.

Timing belt every 100000k, spark plugs the rear ones go for good quality and the front ones use normal.

Expect a sum of money to be paid for this service.

cheers!

Expect a sum of money to be paid for this service.


Absolute gold.

Timing belt every 100000k, spark plugs the rear ones go for good quality and the front ones use normal.
cheers!
I would change all the plugs for the platinum tipped ones. You wont have to touch them for another 100,000. It is worth the extra $$$.

I would change all the plugs for the platinum tipped ones. You wont have to touch them for another 100,000. It is worth the extra $$$.

Yup thats what I was trying to meant but couldnt remember "platinium tipped".

I would say any 100000K service is always going to cost a lot but is all worth it.

Cheers!

Nexus is wrong about saying that 10,000km is too far to push an oil change. My TJ sports engine has done 94000km's, with 10,000km oil and filter changes since new(always using castrol magnatec). My engine has no tappet/lifter noise, uses zero oil between changes, and oil doesnt really get that dirty between changes. Engine running as sweetly if not better than the day it first started. So 10,000km oil changes using good oil is not a problem.

Nexus is wrong about saying that 10,000km is too far to push an oil change. My TJ sports engine has done 94000km's, with 10,000km oil and filter changes since new(always using castrol magnatec). My engine has no tappet/lifter noise, uses zero oil between changes, and oil doesnt really get that dirty between changes. Engine running as sweetly if not better than the day it first started. So 10,000km oil changes using good oil is not a problem.

The best bet for going 10k OCI are either you use a dual rate engine oil like API SL/CI-4+ 5w40 or 15w40 or go synthetic.
Mobil Delvac 1 5w40 would be a great choice, it's make up of mostly group IV/V base stock couple with a strong additives pack.
Mobil delvac 1 5w40 product data sheet
http://www.mobil.com/Australia-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENCVLMOMobil_Delvac_1_5W-40.asp

my TE is on about 197 000kms, not looking forward to the next service bill :cry:
But it needs it...

Nexus is wrong about saying that 10,000km is too far to push an oil change. My TJ sports engine has done 94000km's, with 10,000km oil and filter changes since new(always using castrol magnatec). My engine has no tappet/lifter noise, uses zero oil between changes, and oil doesnt really get that dirty between changes. Engine running as sweetly if not better than the day it first started. So 10,000km oil changes using good oil is not a problem.
Erm personally I would never use magnatec oil. Think about it if it really is magnetic:doubt: as they say therefore sticking to parts when the engine is cold, then all the fine particles that grind off in normal wear and tear are ciculating through the oil and not coming out, thus making the oil more abrasive.

Nexus is wrong about saying that 10,000km is too far to push an oil change. My TJ sports engine has done 94000km's, with 10,000km oil and filter changes since new(always using castrol magnatec). My engine has no tappet/lifter noise, uses zero oil between changes, and oil doesnt really get that dirty between changes. Engine running as sweetly if not better than the day it first started. So 10,000km oil changes using good oil is not a problem.

You can change at 30000K no ones going to stop you. It only shows how much you really care about your engine wear and tear thats all. I know people can argue about this so I leave it to you guys to decide (In other words, your Engine not mine and if I know you change at 10K I would rather look for a guy who service more regularly when buying a car). Every Tech guy I know, recommends Oil change at 5K and 10000 for Full Synthetic oil such as Mobil 1(Which claims 14K lasting) if you like to spluge your cash, by all means is good for the engine as well. I have used Magnetic before, and it turn slightly dark gold after 5000K. Not saying that this is not acceptable. Each person have his/her own judgement about this.

Some brand new car's for example go for first service at 1000K what do you say about that?
If you question about my judgement of 10000K is not pushing and I am wrong, I leave to the rest of AMC here to support how many Ks you do an oil change ESPECIALLY when you got such a good car such as a TJ Sports. Go to any service centre, they would highly recommend 5K change unless you using a Full Synthetic grade. Again some will say Syn Blend is just as great, IMO 7K would be my highest I would take.

My reference and research is done through Shell and Mobil, even the air filter boxes shows that you should do an Oil filter change of 3000miles go figure how many Ks is that.

I am not saying that you are wrong, and I am right. I am giving recommendation based on professional's advice, you can choose to ignore it altogether.

PS, I stop using Castrol as I believe that they are more focused on motobike engine oil rather than cars. Magnetic is the recommended grade for magnas which is semi syn oil. I personally go for other brands like Mobil or Shell.

Taken and quoted from another thread:"If you are concerned about getting the best performance and best engine protection, change your oil every 3,000 - 5,000. Synthetic can indeed go longer and maintain a better level of lubrication, but the main reason for changing your oil is because it gets really dirty. And in this aspect synthetic is no different from conventional oil. If your oil gets too many particles in it, you will start harming your engine. Most particles are generated from the intake air flow, a little bit from natural engine wear and internal combustion by products. This doesn't change no matter what oil you use. If you live in a very dusty or polluted region, you will need to change your oil more often. So if you care about getting the best performance and keeping your engine in top shape, use synthetic for it's superior lubrication and safety margin, but also change it at regular intervals. Don't cut corners by trying to change your oil less frequently just because it's synthetic. You can, but if you care about your car, why? I changed my oil every 3000 on my '94 Supra with Mobil 1. My '03 M3 reccomended service interval is about 12,000 miles between every oil change, but I still change it every 3,000 - 5,000."

Erm personally I would never use magnatec oil. Think about it if it really is magnetic:doubt: as they say therefore sticking to parts when the engine is cold, then all the fine particles that grind off in normal wear and tear are ciculating through the oil and not coming out, thus making the oil more abrasive.

Its claims are quite true to a point. However what you mention is also correct! In fact I was told if you use any Synthetic OIL, let it be blend or FULL SYN, you should use a Engine Oil Flush before changing to new oil. But hey I may be wrong as it seems like I dunno my Engine oil stuff, but I provided a list of recommended oils for all magnas?:nuts:

PS Mobil Super Syn has also the same effect actually, if you guys are free, go grab a bottle to read.Basically they will convince you that the oil molecules stick to your engine parts to give MAXIMUM protection.

Of course people say 5,000km, they get more business that way ;) Don't most new cars recommend 10,000km and some 15,000km? I also wouldn't go past Penrite (not Pennzoil thats a different company).

If you lose lower quality oils then 5,000km lol, but I wouldn't recommend magnatec anyway. Its not worth getting low quality oil for your car! if you constantly floor your foot from cold etc then maybe 5,000km, with normal or slightly hard driving the manufacturers recommendation (10,000km I think for that, or it could be 15,000km for later models) is fine! ok! don't argue! lol

If you claim that is wrong then you can sue Mitsubishi, Ford, Holden etc who all claim the 10,000km or 15,000km thing! lol

;)
Of course people say 5,000km, they get more business that way ;) Don't most new cars recommend 10,000km and some 15,000km? I also wouldn't go past Penrite (not Pennzoil thats a different company).

If you lose lower quality oils then 5,000km lol, but I wouldn't recommend magnatec anyway. Its not worth getting low quality oil for your car! if you constantly floor your foot from cold etc then maybe 5,000km, with normal or slightly hard driving the manufacturers recommendation (10,000km I think for that, or it could be 15,000km for later models) is fine! ok! don't argue! lol

If you claim that is wrong then you can sue Mitsubishi, Ford, Holden etc who all claim the 10,000km or 15,000km thing! lol

Zooms down to how much you want to look after your car. PS Dealers will not use HIGH GRADE oil unless you ask them to. The default is normal oil. BTW are we LOOKING at a TF THREAD model here or are we gong with TJs?

You guys are the oil companies dream changing engine oil at 5000km's. Maybe once upon a time when engine technology wasnt much more advanced than a holden red six, you may of got some advantage from frequent oil changes, but really, youve got to get with the times. You guys can say "Magnatec is crap, and I'd never use it in my car", but I'm saying that Ive used it for 90,000km at 10,000km change intervals and my engine runs better than new with no oil useage between changes. If magantec is crap, then Im glad ive always used a crap oil.The first oil change I did in my car after the engine was run in was with mobil 1. Why could I hear every tappet and lifter clatter using this oil, because it is designed to be run in close tolerance, high revving engines(I run similar oils in my cbr600 with great results), not low revving, higher clearance magna engines. I dont work for Castrol, Im just giving my opinion on what has worked for me over the last 6 years. (Hey good feedback is what makes these forums tick!)

Erm personally I would never use magnatec oil. Think about it if it really is magnetic:doubt: as they say therefore sticking to parts when the engine is cold, then all the fine particles that grind off in normal wear and tear are ciculating through the oil and not coming out, thus making the oil more abrasive.
Hey TOMMO, thats what your oil filters for mate!

I was using Magnatec in my TF with 270000 km on the odo but i was getting lifter noise bad on cold start up. I changed my oil to GTX3 and have had no issue with lifter noise since.

I was using Magnatec in my TF with 270000 km on the odo but i was getting lifter noise bad on cold start up. I changed my oil to GTX3 and have had no issue with lifter noise since.

From time to time, the oil is subjective to weather conditions. The viscosity id dependant on the temperature of your environment. So you will find that using ticker oil sometimes help better than a lower one. If you noticed Mobil 1 has two types, of which one is actually for older vehicles and has a higher viscosity rate.

There is absolutely nothing bad about Magnetic neighter with any reputatable brand oil.
Oil change is up to your own opinion of engine performance and how you wish to look after.
I would not recommend using normal oil for a 10K service but rather a Full syn grade of any reputatable brand. Semi syn blend is great too and is mostly recommended at most shops by default. Whether it can really do well for 10K I will not answer on this, is all looking at road conditions and yes the way you drive.

I do the engine oil change myself as I find this an easy task to do thus worth the trouble to change it at 7K.

peace. I will now :gtfo: as I think is more than enough info here and everyone is entitled their opinion. respect.

Hey TOMMO, thats what your oil filters for mate!
lol It's only a paper filter and it definately does not filter out all the fine metallic and carbon particles that are in your oil. Just look at the colour of your oil when you change it. I know that after 5000 mines pretty black, that's why I change my oil and filter every 5000.

lol It's only a paper filter and it definately does not filter out all the fine metallic and carbon particles that are in your oil. Just look at the colour of your oil when you change it. I know that after 5000 mines pretty black, that's why I change my oil and filter every 5000.

I wonder do people actually bother to check their oil at all. lol
I know there are some people who will only top up and not even a flush. :nuts:

lol It's only a paper filter and it definately does not filter out all the fine metallic and carbon particles that are in your oil. Just look at the colour of your oil when you change it. I know that after 5000 mines pretty black, that's why I change my oil and filter every 5000.
Why not do it every 1000km TOMMO, thats even better again!

hahah its long way to go 4 me till i reach 200 thousand so far only done 83 thousand kms

How often you change your oil should be a function of how many km's you put on the car, the type of wear the car is subjected to, and the environment you operate the car in.

If you do mainly highway km's and put 10,000km every six months, then changing every 10,000km is reasonable. If you do a lot of stop-start driving, and only put on 5,000km on every six months, then changing every 5,000km is sensible. If you're in a particularly hot and/or dusty environment, changing more often makes sense.

In other words, I don't think there's any magic formula. Use some common sense.