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stereo_god
29-04-2006, 07:47 PM
is it legal in victoria to cut out the stock bellhousing and weld in a new one?
thanks in advance
Is it legal to cut off your roof in Victoria? The car will be weak as hell and require massive engineering to become road legal again.. really not worth it.
stereo_god
29-04-2006, 08:09 PM
sorry ill be more specific could you cut out the old tranny tunnel (exhaust tunnel) and weld in a new one say from a sigma. also the the fire wall part of the tranny tunnel as well
Type40
29-04-2006, 08:15 PM
sorry ill be more specific could you cut out the old tranny tunnel (exhaust tunnel) and weld in a new one say from a sigma. also the the fire wall part of the tranny tunnel as well
Engineers certificate is needed my boy... What for anyway?
stereo_god
29-04-2006, 08:19 PM
thinking about getting the sigma gearbox and using the tranny tunnel and half of firewall to make my magna rwd. had a look at so many wreaker yards getting ideas. interestingly the sigma engine only has 3 mounts 2 on engine and 1 on tranny. then can get custom diff, the suspension needs to be altered so a live axle diffgets put under the springs.and the driveaxle put in. its part of my ideas book. how much would the enginners cert cost.???
Type40
29-04-2006, 08:22 PM
I take it that this is for the TR?
stereo_god
29-04-2006, 08:30 PM
yeah its for the tr. i know its possible, two of my friends do as well. i have all the plans in my head. ill just have to go talk to an enginneer about it (car thingo). my dads a structule enginner so ive been talking to him about it.
stereo_god
30-04-2006, 05:45 PM
:bump: does anyone know how much an enginers cert costs
stereo_god
01-05-2006, 05:19 PM
anyone?
Mr Bishi
01-05-2006, 05:22 PM
$500 i think
You're actually considering attempting to convert a 14 year old car from front to rear wheel drive, installing an underpowered engine in the process? You will have a shoddy bland dated interior, worn components everywhere, safety problems, shocking handling, weak drive train, rar rar rar I'm not going on. It will cost you a tidy packet. You could go to the auctions with half the money it will cost you and buy a car twice as powerful and old, absolutely murder it, hell even buy two while you're at it. Or better, say it will cost you 15k, buy a 10k car and put 5k into the drivetrain.
Go and eat some rocks... it will be more enjoyable than a rwd conversion.
stereo_god
01-05-2006, 05:55 PM
sweet anyone else that can conferm? please:) thanks for the reply mr bishi
stereo_god
01-05-2006, 06:06 PM
hey if you cant put anything good into the conversation dont bother replying. i understand what ur saying but its my car and if i want to do it ill do it. anyway all the vl turbos are older than a magna anyway. and i dont want a new car i just want to do some things to this one.
GoTRICE
01-05-2006, 06:17 PM
yeah some opinions aren't needed even though they speak sense; if the gto twin turbo was transplanted this would be alright. stock 450nm in a 1300kg car thats low 13's stock
You pay engineers by the hour and theyre expensive as theyve had to **** on **** all money at uni for 4-5years doing ridiculous mathematical **** that im now doing and im only 2nd year.
To get ride height and rims engineered its about 600$ i think this might be more; a mate of a mate had it done in his hj wagon or similar
sorry ill be more specific could you cut out the old tranny tunnel (exhaust tunnel) and weld in a new one say from a sigma. also the the fire wall part of the tranny tunnel as well
Fisrt thing is, its not quite so simple as cutting it out and welding a sigma one in, just cause there both mitsu. you would have to cut out the 2nd gen big enough to accomodate the gearbox and then fabricate a new trans tunnel.
An engineers certificate, as far as i understand, will be dearer the more the car has been modified, when it comes to things like structual mods, as a lot of engineers are hestitant to put there name to it, unless they do the work.
I'm gonna be dead honest with you here mate, you realy need to have a good background in this kind of thing to do it yourself, or have atleast a spare $15000 laying around to pay someone else to do it. if not, you realy should forget about it.
And of what i can tell, you do not have the knowledge to do this kind of work
Sorry its harsh, but its true.
stereo_god
01-05-2006, 06:36 PM
thanks guys i know it will cost lots and i dont know much bout modifing cars thats why im asking. btw i was going to use the sigmas gearbox. thats why i was going to get the tranny tunnel from a sigma. i had no idea how to get the tranny tunnel swap thing thats why im asking. i was going to do it in stages. like keeping it fwd for the moment getting the tranny tunnel done, then diff and rear suspension then engine rotation. so right before i have the engine rotated ill have a diff connected to a gearbox but not to the engine. at the moment this is on my idea wall.(yes i have a whole wall dedicated to magna ideas) but a drifting magna would be friggin awsome
thanks guys i know it will cost lots and i dont know much bout modifing cars thats why im asking. btw i was going to use the sigmas gearbox. thats why i was going to get the tranny tunnel from a sigma. i had no idea how to get the tranny tunnel swap thing thats why im asking. i was going to do it in stages. like keeping it fwd for the moment getting the tranny tunnel done, then diff and rear suspension then engine rotation. so right before i have the engine rotated ill have a diff connected to a gearbox but not to the engine. at the moment this is on my idea wall.(yes i have a whole wall dedicated to magna ideas) but a drifting magna would be friggin awsome
its not realy something that can be done in stages, it has to be done in one hit to get everything lined up, then you have to take into account thrust loads and the like, also you will notice the fuel tank is in the way.
if you realy want to do it, forget about cutting up a sigma body to graft parts into a magna, it will be easier and structualy stronger if you fabricate it yourself, i'll try dig up some of the lists of things, with prices that i had to go through before i even started with a AWD conversion on my TS, i'll have to sumarise it a bit, if i went into detail, this months bandwidth would be gone, and its only the first day.
good luck anyway, but i strongly suggest you do a course in automotive engineering, or do a mechanics apprenticeship first, there is a hell of a lot of principles that you will need to learn before doing a modification such as this.
stereo_god
01-05-2006, 07:53 PM
could you maybe scan stuff and send it to stereo_god@hotmail.com. thanks
mannix
01-05-2006, 08:57 PM
i hear an engineers cert. will be at least $1000
personally i'd be putting the $1000 towards a supercharger.. but that's just me
GoTRICE
01-05-2006, 09:12 PM
thanks guys i know it will cost lots and i dont know much bout modifing cars thats why im asking. btw i was going to use the sigmas gearbox. thats why i was going to get the tranny tunnel from a sigma. i had no idea how to get the tranny tunnel swap thing thats why im asking. i was going to do it in stages. like keeping it fwd for the moment getting the tranny tunnel done, then diff and rear suspension then engine rotation. so right before i have the engine rotated ill have a diff connected to a gearbox but not to the engine. at the moment this is on my idea wall.(yes i have a whole wall dedicated to magna ideas) but a drifting magna would be friggin awsome
also wouldn't you want to use a gto gearbox aswell?? im sure it'd be alot stronger than a sigma or sigma turbo variant. One of the best way would be to use a jap diamante's floors plan n fuel tank but overall itd be easier to import a vr4 diamante twin turbo...
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