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magnarama
02-05-2006, 03:53 PM
I want a car so I can enter drift comps and I want a RWD v6, but dont want a nissan.

my only other choice is really a soarer (affordably) and I dont want that really.

I've been told that taking the fwd fuse out would stop the front wheels getting power, but would that cause any collateral or straight up damage? or is it even possible on an awd magna?

I'd also want it in a manual but good luck with that hey?

Any thoughts?

(drift would be on a track not on the street :P)

greenmatt
02-05-2006, 04:06 PM
Its all mechanical, no electronics in the drivetrain. You could disconnect the front driveshafts but you would have to find a way of replacing the viscous coupling in the centre otherwise I fear it would wear out. Apart from that then you have the problem that you have an auto aswell.

mrbsh1
03-05-2006, 07:52 AM
Wasn't there a thread somwhere that said an evo box would bolt in, bugger me if i can remeber it tho. Your concept is a good one, as i believe it has been done with a wrx. One can only wait to see.

dave_au
03-05-2006, 08:01 AM
Wasn't there a thread somwhere that said an evo box would bolt in,
Still wont make it rwd.

There was a lengthy thread about a year ago and the conclusion was that it would just be too hard to convert an awd Magna to rwd.

Ice_Magik
03-05-2006, 08:19 AM
R32 gt-R's i think are the only car which you can just pull out a single fuse, to make the car rwd.

Good idea in theory, but i think it'd take alot of time and effort making a Magna into a drift car..............+ it would be Very expensive to get the setup happening..

why not go for an import, thats why drifters use them, and not their favoured daily drivers such as falcons and commodores...
( Only factory team's can afford aussie built drift cars )

M4DDOG
03-05-2006, 08:28 AM
My understanding of mechanics is limited, but couldn't you just "cut" the front driveshafts off that connect to front wheels and leave them spinning freely as stubs?
Maybe you'll only get half power though...hmmmm.

Ashneel
03-05-2006, 08:36 AM
My understanding of mechanics is limited, but couldn't you just "cut" the front driveshafts off that connect to front wheels and leave them spinning freely as stubs?
Maybe you'll only get half power though...hmmmm.


yes ull only get half power coz there is still a half cut shaft spinning unless u can get a ball joint made up and get the front shaft goin to the back as well :think:

M4DDOG
03-05-2006, 08:53 AM
yes ull only get half power coz there is still a half cut shaft spinning unless u can get a ball joint made up and get the front shaft goin to the back as well :think:
:think: yeh thought about that, but i dont think there'd be enough room. I can picture all the gears in my head that would allow it, but getting it engineered etc. would be pretty impossible, though if it was just a track car, who cares?

Ice_Magik
03-05-2006, 08:59 AM
:think: yeh thought about that, but i dont think there'd be enough room. I can picture all the gears in my head that would allow it, but getting it engineered etc. would be pretty impossible, though if it was just a track car, who cares?


who in their right mind would pay $20,000+ for a stock, AUTO, rwd magna that can only be driven on a track.......?

Asylum
03-05-2006, 09:07 AM
also remember, the magna's have awefully short steering, which is always a downside aswell.

the strange thing is, i was actually thinking about this in my head the other day, best idea would be a TR-TS, with one of the V6's custom mounted north/south, and find a gearbox to suit! then adapt a custom rear end into it (doesn't have to be street legal does it?) :p

Ashneel
03-05-2006, 09:12 AM
doesn't have to be street legal does it? :p


pfftt street legal??? wat the hell is that.......................



















lol

bRatzc
03-05-2006, 11:48 AM
I suppose you could always do what McBeth (is that right?) did with his show winning Magna & drop a C.O.M.E. alloy V8 into a Magna. Or just buy his car. Didn't I read somewhere that he was selling it?

choonga
03-05-2006, 01:04 PM
pfftt street legal??? wat the hell is that.......................





lol

shut up and stop posting random posts like this.


AHHAHAHAH OMG THAT WAS FUNNY LOL LOL GOLD ROFLMAO LOL :bowrofl: :bowrofl: lol

it seems that the last week of your posts have been this.

tommo
03-05-2006, 02:53 PM
Its all mechanical, no electronics in the drivetrain. You could disconnect the front driveshafts but you would have to find a way of replacing the viscous coupling in the centre otherwise I fear it would wear out. Apart from that then you have the problem that you have an auto aswell.
I've been wondering lately what system the AWD magnas use to distribute power, do they have a variable torque split between the front and rear, or do they just have a set torque split which is then variably distributed to the sides. Cos I woulda thought that they would have an electronics system that senses which wheel/s are spinning and then diverts torque away from these wheels.

Phonic
06-05-2006, 04:40 PM
I've been wondering lately what system the AWD magnas use to distribute power, do they have a variable torque split between the front and rear, or do they just have a set torque split which is then variably distributed to the sides. Cos I woulda thought that they would have an electronics system that senses which wheel/s are spinning and then diverts torque away from these wheels.

The AWDs run an open front diff, a viscous centre diff (which is theoretically able to transfer 100% of the torque either way depending on the loads at each end (isn't electronically controlled)). And the rear is an LSD (also viscous I beleive).

PJ'sTJ2
06-05-2006, 05:09 PM
The AWD Magna uses the floor pan, fire-wall and fuel tank from the Japanese AWD Diamante but the engine and most of the suspension comes from the local Magna. So what are the new driveline bits? Specifically, the transfer case is common with the Evo VI Lancer, while the front differential is an open unit, the same as for Evo VI RS and Evo VII. The centre differential, which gives the full-time all wheel drive, uses a viscous coupling unit which is shared with the Evo VI. The rear LSD is a mechanical plate type, the same as the Evo VI RS (motorsport version). A new steering rack and steering knuckles were required (and what a pity the engineers didn't improve the steering ratio around centre while they had this chance!) and the exhaust system and ABS calibration were both revised.

Sports
06-05-2006, 10:02 PM
There's a dude in QLD with an AWD Verada who went on a cruise and said the the computer controlled the distribution from front to rear. He said he could make it 100% RWD. Ummm PM Mischef or Megatron about him maby.

JO_KING
07-05-2006, 01:38 AM
then why hasnt he done it then ? hmm :liar: maybe it was a tall tale.

AllPaw
09-05-2006, 03:16 PM
Yeah AWD are a mechanical Item on Magnas

The LSD are what handle which wheel gets the power. there are two of them basically that try to distribute power to the others.

If you want to make a driftr Magna then use a very modified gearbox and tailshaft arrangement. Doing it to a AWD just is too hard, me thinks (being an Engineer). You cant cut shafts or redirect power that is just mechanically not doable but putting a magna body on anither drive trin is possible. The AWD set up isnt like a Subaru. It is very different. and the GTR setups are more like a four wheel drive set up and that is why you can disconnect the fuse and the front dissy no longer operates.

Yeah rebirth a Magna shell onto a powerful drive train