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Cittris
02-05-2006, 05:55 PM
Hey guys i have been offered these 6x9's which one would you choose?

Blaupunkt GTX693 - 110
SoundStream Edge EGS6.9 - 110
Alpine Type-Rs 6x9s SPR-69LP - 170
Diamond Audio M391i - 200

which wold you choose if any at all

They will not be used for bass as i already have a sub

thanks

Edit: added a new set that i have been offered

MitsiMonsta
02-05-2006, 09:21 PM
Hey Cittris;

Depends on what you want mate. Sometimes 6x9's are not the best option (there Tim, I can say it!)

Anyway, checked your profile and there was no equipment listed there. If you post a list of what you have, I can offer my opinion of the best ones you listed and maybe some other suited 6x9's. Just HU, Amps, speakers, any deadening. See my profile for an idea.

Also an indication of what music you tend to listen to, plus the absolute Max budget on these. Up to $200-220 will get you some excellent speakers.

FHRX had some ex-demo Vibe units a while back for about that $100-110 mark IIRC.

Cittris
03-05-2006, 06:10 AM
Hey Cittris;

Depends on what you want mate. Sometimes 6x9's are not the best option (there Tim, I can say it!)

Anyway, checked your profile and there was no equipment listed there. If you post a list of what you have, I can offer my opinion of the best ones you listed and maybe some other suited 6x9's. Just HU, Amps, speakers, any deadening. See my profile for an idea.

Also an indication of what music you tend to listen to, plus the absolute Max budget on these. Up to $200-220 will get you some excellent speakers.

FHRX had some ex-demo Vibe units a while back for about that $100-110 mark IIRC.

Hey MitsiMonsta,

Thanks for the reply. I currently have an Alpine CDA-9856 this is the latest one released (i can't differenciate between the models lol)
stock speakers all round.
Also have a Jaycar response 2x150 wrms and a Sony xplod 12" sub.
I hope to power these speakers witha coustic 2 channel amp puting out 150wrmsx2 at 2 ohms

I listen to mostly trance/house/dance and sometimes RnB the ratio would probably be 10:1 (that is probably wrong but i meant to say i listen to trance 10 times more that anything else)

looking to spend anything from 0-300 say i dunno what would be realistic. Lets just say i am not after SQ but maybe SPL

Thanks

Tristian

Chantra
03-05-2006, 08:15 AM
Tris...as mentioned the Blaupunkt speakers are being sold in Germany for EURO 29,99 - about 50 OZ dollars.

(http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/72297S1-2.html)

Those Blaupunkt speakers suck. AsI told u on the phone they do have a very high end range...but these speakers arent the Creme de la Creme!

I say Alpine!

Ashneel
03-05-2006, 08:25 AM
these speakers arent the Creme de la Creme!

I say Alpine!

lol ye i say Alpine to

MitsiMonsta
03-05-2006, 09:34 AM
Okay, for more SPL with a more American sound, try JL Audio. JB HiFi stocks them. They will get plenty loud, while still having some reasonable control. Also in the Ballpark would be Cadence, however I would go for the JL's before them.

I will plug the JBL's of course, the GTO936e at around $130-140 are a very good unit at a good price. There are a few others higher up the range also. Remember that JBL and the Infinity speakers are basically identical units, they just look different.

Of course, the more normal brands will be quite okay too, most are somewhat bright however. I run Pioneer white coned 3-ways myself (TS-A6955). JVC's are pretty good also (steer clear of the Warren G range if they still have it), Clarion also worth a look. Stay clear of Kenwood as usual - overpriced and underperforming, low quality crud.

If you are a Trancehead, I'd be looking at something like Hertz's top of the line 6x9 - the HCX690's for an RRP of $266. With the change out of your, you should get a can of liquid deadener like G-Spot and do the underside of your parcel shelf as it will vibrate like crazy. FHRX can sort you out on Hertz and G-Spot, or there are Hertz dealers in Melbourne.... I'm not sure which, but either Stylin or Freeway will most likely have them. FHRX also has an associate in Melbourne, he may be able to help you out.

Once you have that all in, you will be looking at front speakers, again Hertz - try HSK165's. I love them for Dance music, they are very loud, nice and clear and they bang bloody hard. I will be moving over to a full Hertz speaker system, with two HXS300 subs, the abovementioned 6x9's and the HSK163 3-way splits for the front. I will also be looking at their new amps that have just been announced, but as yet no pricing or specs.

Hope that helps....

Righty
03-05-2006, 04:27 PM
Soundstream for the win :cool:

Cittris
03-05-2006, 05:25 PM
Added another set that i have been offered

Diamond Audio M391i for 200

MitsiMonsta
03-05-2006, 05:50 PM
Diamond Audio are also very very good. They are running out the old models right now, some good bargains to be had. They make some of the best SQ subs around - the 10" is one of the most favoured SQ subs in the country.

I still prefer the Hertz gear for the insane amount of mid-bass that comes out of it. The fact that it is at a very reasonable price only sweetens the deal for me. Their new HXS300 Subs will take 1800WRMS (yup, that's 1.8kW) of power quite happily - they are actually rated at that. Just $450 per sub.... try getting that in another brand. Their splits are about 70-80% of the price of Focal, and only just below their quality.

5 minutes with the 3-ways deafened me for a week. I'm Sold!

Anyway, your best bet is to go out and have a listen. Trust your ears, but if you are spending somewhere between $200 and $300, most speakers will sound pretty good.

Cittris
03-05-2006, 06:10 PM
Diamond Audio are also very very good. They are running out the old models right now, some good bargains to be had. They make some of the best SQ subs around - the 10" is one of the most favoured SQ subs in the country.

I still prefer the Hertz gear for the insane amount of mid-bass that comes out of it. The fact that it is at a very reasonable price only sweetens the deal for me. Their new HXS300 Subs will take 1800WRMS (yup, that's 1.8kW) of power quite happily - they are actually rated at that. Just $450 per sub.... try getting that in another brand. Their splits are about 70-80% of the price of Focal, and only just below their quality.

5 minutes with the 3-ways deafened me for a week. I'm Sold!

Anyway, your best bet is to go out and have a listen. Trust your ears, but if you are spending somewhere between $200 and $300, most speakers will sound pretty good.

The thing is i am not after speakers that pump out bass as i have a sub for that. Does this change your opinion

magnat
03-05-2006, 06:22 PM
Blaupunkt GTX693 - 110

I use them down the back of my Magna and I have to say they sound OK..

I tend to hint towards the Soundstreams and I would Also recommend JBL..

Alpine are Over rated, Sure they sound nice but they are a Tad Overpriced...

Best advice is, go and try them.
Take your Own CD in, Play Some tunes that you know how they are supposed to sound and give them a listen...

I also Agree with Mitsi's Comment on Kenwood, so dont roast him for it...

MitsiMonsta
03-05-2006, 09:53 PM
The thing is i am not after speakers that pump out bass as i have a sub for that. Does this change your opinion

Not at all. I am talking mid-bass, not sub-bass. Sub-bass is for the thump in the back, mid-bass is where alot of the meat of most music comes in. For Dance/Trance/Techno beats, there is alot of mid-bass that makes up the music.

Rather than write a whole diatribe about it here, check out THIS THREAD (http://www.caraudioaustralia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58374&st=0) at the CAA Forum which will possibly give you a 1000% better idea of what mid-bass is all about than what I could write.

For those reasons, you are looking for speakers that lend themselves more to excellent mid-bass reproduction for your taste in music. Doesn't hurt for R&B tracks either since they have a pronounced bass-heavy average of frequencies.

I still think the Hertz are perfect for Dance music tastes, and at a better price than most other quality speakers. I would try and find someone with Hertz speakers in their car and see what you can have a listen to it with music you know. There was a TE floating about with all-Hertz gear in it, was done at Peninsula Car Audio in Frankston. It was done maybe 4 years ago but was featured in one of the Audio Mags.

I know you have a sub, but you will find it overpowered by the HSK165's and HCX690's if you go for them and once they are appropriately amplified - just a 4x75WRMS amp would be more than enough. However for stock speakers, that sub would feel like it is shaking the car to pieces. And yes, I do know what I am talking about, I used to have a single 12" Sony sub with basically stock speakers. I ended up killing the sub once I upgraded my fronts as it didn't have the volume or accuracy to keep up.

No matter how much I tell you about bits and pieces, I can't force you to go out and buy it. It is your money, your car and your decision. You need to get out and have a listen to the speakers, ideally in cars, and with source music you know. Make sure any HU EQ's are set FLAT. I'm not concerned you get the best value, or an excellent result. I just want you to be an informed customer when you walk in the door, and that you maybe have learned something on here that you can arm yourself with when you are attacked by the salespeople.

As for magnat's comment, of the three originals you listed, I would go the Soundstreams over the others too. However, my standing advice (as Tuff_TR will agree) is that you should not buy the bottom of the range if working to a tight budget. Wait until the second-tier models are on sale and buy them for the bottom-of-the-range price.

magnat
04-05-2006, 07:33 AM
Avoid Any Brand that Claims to have 500W for 6x9's
Dont look at MAX power Figures. look at Nominal

With 6x9's it is a Hotly Debated Subject over 2-way-3-way and now More recently 4-way and 5-way.

a 2-way 6x9 is going to do the job Better then a confounded 5 -way speaker..

Reason
The 6x9 Cone does 90% of the work, Mid Bass and Vocals tends to be generated from the central part of the Cone, if there is a honking Great Big Central speaker housing above it, it will block some of the Midbass out and replace it with Some over reproduced Treble..
Some compannies will add Extra Tweeters and jack up the power rating, extra Tweeters do not add an Extra 20 Watts to the Speakers Handling power. They are going to be used on Your Rear shelf, so Search for one that sounds the Best to you..

Cosmetics are not important when they are hidden underneath Stock grills..