Hey guys im needing more power for my Te 2.4 Litre!!
now to start i dont wanna hear upgrade to a 3 or 3.5 Litre as i like my car as is and dont wish to change engines!! atm i have done my full exhaust system, K&N air filter.
what would be the best step to take to increase the power of the 2,4 L
been looking at CAI, throttle body etc etc.... just wanting some opinions from ppl who know about these sort of mods and who has them installed what benefits etc etc....cheers boyz!!:D

The quickest 2.4L i've seen (think it was on fastmagna?) had cams, head work, exhaust, CAI etc. pretty much all you can do to an N/A and it was on par with a standard 3L :doubt:.
If you dont wish to change engines, the only option i see for you is turbo or supercharge.
Being a 4 cylinder, turbo might not be so expensive.

I heard someone mention recently that they had priced a NOS kit for their 2.4L 2nd gen magna and it was gonna cost them $800 supplied and fitted (I'm pretty sure).

When it comes to cheap horsepower - you can't beat it. And in all honesty - if you want performance out of a 2.4L, the only way you are gonna get any decent performance thru some form of "supercharging", be it chemical, exhaust or belt driven. At the end of the day - bolt ons are only going to deliver small increases in power, and if you're hoping to give V6's a run for their money you'll be sadly dissapointed.

The quickest 2.4L i've seen (think it was on fastmagna?) had cams, head work, exhaust, CAI etc. pretty much all you can do to an N/A and it was on par with a standard 3L :doubt:.
If you dont wish to change engines, the only option i see for you is turbo or supercharge.
Being a 4 cylinder, turbo might not be so expensive.

All that work and only just the equal to a 3L. thats not good at all!!
at the moment even just with my exhaust i feel an increase! dont really need to take on 6's
just wanna a quick 2.4 as i know they have the capabilities!!! so M4DDOG u think that turbos would be cheaper for a 2.4L. i have no clue which is why im asking!!
how much am i looking at for either a cai or cams??

em four dee dawg. why would a turbo setup be cheaper for the magna 4 cylinder compared to a magna 6 cylinder? i never knew that the amount of cylinders is what constituted the price.

em four dee dawg. why would a turbo setup be cheaper for the magna 4 cylinder compared to a magna 6 cylinder? i never knew that the amount of cylinders is what constituted the price.
Being a straight 4 you only have to worry about the 1 custom manifold, also with forged pistions etc. you only have 4, not 6. So it's still going to cost a fair bit, but will be abit cheaper as you only have to buy lots of 4, not 6 :).

@Matty_J - Yes, that is why most people will say, sell your car and buy a V6, because the cost of cams and headwork/exhaust etc. will cost more than it would to just sell your car and buy the v6.
You could go NOS, i dont really know much about it though. Really only useful for drags isn't it?
Turbo you're looking at a fair bit of $$$. But the gains will be much higher than an N/A application.

Being a straight 4 you only have to worry about the 1 custom manifold, also with forged pistions etc. you only have 4, not 6. So it's still going to cost a fair bit, but will be abit cheaper as you only have to buy 4 lots, not 6 :).

@Matty_J - Yes, that is why most people will say, sell your car and buy a V6, because the cost of cams and headwork/exhaust etc. will cost more than it would to just sell your car and buy the v6.
You could go NOS, i dont really know much about it though. Really only useful for drags isn't it?
Turbo you're looking at a fair bit of $$$. But the gains will be much higher than an N/A application.


Yeh i definitly understand what ya saying mate and thanks for all of your positive input!!!
but i really dont wanna sell as my fuel consumption is fantastic and car drives fine!!
so all the work inside and out i have put into my car i would just be loosing money!!
so ive just decided to do as much as i can to get some more power outta her!!

ive been looking into some single throttle body options im thinking the bolt on 60mm unit!!
what do u guys think and has anyone ever done this to a 2.4 or 3 or 3.5 for that matter!
once again cheers boyz! :D

Yeh i definitly understand what ya saying mate and thanks for all of your positive input!!!
but i really dont wanna sell as my fuel consumption is fantastic and car drives fine!!
so all the work inside and out i have put into my car i would just be loosing money!!
so ive just decided to do as much as i can to get some more power outta her!!

ive been looking into some single throttle body options im thinking the bolt on 60mm unit!!
what do u guys think and has anyone ever done this to a 2.4 or 3 or 3.5 for that matter!
once again cheers boyz! :D
It will be cheaper to do an engine swap than turbo your car.

You need to face the facts that no matter how many bolt on mods you throw at your 2.4 (apart from forced induction) its still going to be a pig. Most newish lancers will be faster than you..

The reason why you are getting good fuel consumption is because this is the best combination for the 2.4L. Having MORE POWER does not mean fuel efficiency, in fact you may loose some FC for the matter. I have not posted my FC on the FC thread by the way as I am on new fuel cycle so still calculating avg FC for my 2.4L. It is unpredictable at times.

Instead spend on stuff beautifying your ride if you like the 2.4L, which I did. I dont drag or race or anything like that. My car is a basic sedan and thats it. Thought about having body kits and yeah this will be struggling with 4 Cyl car and drain your FC. I haven't even put a K&N panel and I am still happy with its power. Start thinking about doing up your interiors or stuff that just make it good rather than focusing on power. As said if power is the only thing you want you really should sell off the 2.4L and get the bigger Engine. The money spent will be of your contentment rather than struggling to get more power from a 4 cyl.

Power doesnt mean you boost everything to get the best out of your engine always, especially when speed limits are 60kmh mostly.

The reason why you are getting good fuel consumption is because this is the best combination for the 2.4L. Having MORE POWER does not mean fuel efficiency, in fact you may loose some FC for the matter. I have not posted my FC on the FC thread by the way as I am on new fuel cycle so still calculating avg FC for my 2.4L. It is unpredictable at times.

Instead spend on stuff beautifying your ride if you like the 2.4L, which I did. I dont drag or race or anything like that. My car is a basic sedan and thats it. Thought about having body kits and yeah this will be struggling with 4 Cyl car and drain your FC. I haven't even put a K&N panel and I am still happy with its power. Start thinking about doing up your interiors or stuff that just make it good rather than focusing on power. As said if power is the only thing you want you really should sell off the 2.4L and get the bigger Engine. The money spent will be of your contentment rather than struggling to get more power from a 4 cyl.

Power doesnt mean you boost everything to get the best out of your engine always, especially when speed limits are 60kmh mostly.


Yeh i know what you are all saying and yeh i want some power but not to race nor to drag!!
all i want is to make my 4 a hot 4!! Nexus i have done some work to her looks as stated in my sig! and still planning to keep going in that department!! Although i still wish to upgrade my engine *not an engine conversion* but just to get some more power outta her!!
i dont care about being as fast as a v6 or any other car! this is for myself as i love my 2.4 and dont care for 6's as ive had them before!! i know 2.4L's can be mean of course not as mean as a 6 but mean none the less!!
all i want to know is the best bolt on mods to get and prices!!
forget turbos for now as i dont have that kinda money! butr looking at cheaper mods such as CAI, throttle body, etc etc...... any ideas opinions are welcome so thanks for all the input! :D

You should be able to get a turbo running on your car for less than $6,000* if your happy enough to run low boost (5-7psi) - this will mean the pistons etc should be up to the task (albeit - will probably reduce the life expectancy of your engine). A 4cyl will also require a smaller turbo which will be slightly cheaper.

* - you could very well halve this number if you were willing to source 2nd hand turbo, manifold, ecu etc. and do alot of the work yourself (or get mates to help out).

As I said earlier - you can't beat NOS for cheap horsepower, but from what I've heard, the fines associated with having it hooked up / in the car / any NOS related device installed (legislation differs from state to state) would come to about half the price of a turbo install anyway :shock: . So if you don't wanna have any trouble with the law - then yeah, NOS is really only suitable for track use.

You should be able to get a turbo running on your car for less than $6,000* if your happy enough to run low boost (5-7psi) - this will mean the pistons etc should be up to the task (albeit - will probably reduce the life expectancy of your engine). A 4cyl will also require a smaller turbo which will be slightly cheaper.

* - you could very well halve this number if you were willing to source 2nd hand turbo, manifold, ecu etc. and do alot of the work yourself (or get mates to help out).

As I said earlier - you can't beat NOS for cheap horsepower, but from what I've heard, the fines associated with having it hooked up / in the car / any NOS related device installed (legislation differs from state to state) would come to about half the price of a turbo install anyway :shock: . So if you don't wanna have any trouble with the law - then yeah, NOS is really only suitable for track use.

Yeh NOS is outta the question man!! i dont wish to have the coppers on me 24/7!!
and yeh not really what i want as its just for street. Has anyone ever expierenced Nos in action not that im wanting to install just would like to know as ive wondered what it would be like power wise!! Yeh but what do u guys think about a 60mm single throttle body??
has anyone done this to a 2.4 in general even if its not a magna!! im looking at this option as my mate has told me i would see some difference!! im not looking at major KW gains here guys just something to increase power and to work better with the exhaust system!!
Cheers:D

Would a high flow T/B really do anything for the 2.4L compared to its V6 counter-part?
CAI again is a little controversial, the 3rd gens have a pretty good setup already. Once again you wont see the type of gain a 6 will, but i guess every little bit helps. Also maybe give Barry's fuel rail kit and earthing kit a go? couldn't hurt :).

There is a whole forum on the 2.4l 4G64, www.4G64.com these engines are big in the states and there is bolt on turbo kits and mods galore

hope that helps you a bit

There is a whole forum on the 2.4l 4G64, www.4G64.com these engines are big in the states and there is bolt on turbo kits and mods galore

hope that helps you a bit

Mate that helped a lot! thanks for that ford_fella just what i needed!!
ur a champion! got a link from that site to a guy who has a nice setup for another 2.4!
got some ideas but very expensive!!!

And whats the deal with barrys kits!! are they worth it?

A larger T/B might make abit of difference - probably more so in Throttle response than top end power. If you're sure you want to stay naturally aspirated - then cams would be your best bet at getting any decent gains from your engine.

Cams designed for N/A power will maximise 'valve overlap' which means the intake and exhaust valves are open simultaniously for a very short duration at the end of the "blow" and the beginning of the "suck" strokes - the result of which is that the escaping exhaust gasses will draw a small amount of fresh air/fuel mixture into the combustion chamber before the "suck" stroke even starts.

A larger T/B might make abit of difference - probably more so in Throttle response than top end power. If you're sure you want to stay naturally aspirated - then cams would be your best bet at getting any decent gains from your engine.

Cams designed for N/A power will maximise 'valve overlap' which means the intake and exhaust valves are open simultaniously for a very short duration at the end of the "blow" and the beginning of the "suck" strokes - the result of which is that the escaping exhaust gasses will draw a small amount of fresh air/fuel mixture into the combustion chamber before the "suck" stroke even starts.

yeh i was looking at the cams aswell although i was told to upgrade my TB, CAI, and to get a FPR before upgrading my cams to get the best response!! im kinda stuck as i know where to get the most gains but not what to install first!

yeh i was looking at the cams aswell although i was told to upgrade my TB, CAI, and to get a FPR before upgrading my cams to get the best response!! im kinda stuck as i know where to get the most gains but not what to install first!

You'll get the most impressive result by waiting til you can afford to do everything you have listed above, and then doing it all at once. On their own - the above mods (with the exception of the cams) will only give minimal gains.

Correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt a 4G63 turbo manifold from an evo 4 onwards bolt onto your engine, being the next size up in the engine family (4G6x?). Lots of them available, like this one (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LANCER-EVO-TUNED-LEGTH-TURBO-MANIFOLD-EVOLUTION_W0QQitemZ4635119039QQcategoryZ50138QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)on ebay. Source a second hand turbo of an evo owner doing an upgrade, purchase a $200 intercooler, $500 emanage, and a few other parts, some custom fabrication, and your set!

also noticed your auto . . . might wanna consider forced induction as a priority.

I have a mate with a mildly modded 4G64 Magna in manual, and i run rings around him, despite his 600ml advantage over me.

Correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt a 4G63 turbo manifold from an evo 4 onwards bolt onto your engine, being the next size up in the engine family (4G6x?). Lots of them available, like this one (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LANCER-EVO-TUNED-LEGTH-TURBO-MANIFOLD-EVOLUTION_W0QQitemZ4635119039QQcategoryZ50138QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)on ebay. Source a second hand turbo of an evo owner doing an upgrade, purchase a $200 intercooler, $500 emanage, and a few other parts, some custom fabrication, and your set!
if thats the case i want a 2.4L magna now.

Correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt a 4G63 turbo manifold from an evo 4 onwards bolt onto your engine, being the next size up in the engine family (4G6x?). Lots of them available, like this one (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LANCER-EVO-TUNED-LEGTH-TURBO-MANIFOLD-EVOLUTION_W0QQitemZ4635119039QQcategoryZ50138QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)on ebay. Source a second hand turbo of an evo owner doing an upgrade, purchase a $200 intercooler, $500 emanage, and a few other parts, some custom fabrication, and your set!


After doing some research im pretty sure that it should just bolt straight on!!!
but im not 100% sure ill be asking my mechanic regardless tomorrow but does anyone know if this will bolt on for sure? If it does i think im going to go down this path and search out some 2nd hand turbos *decent condition*

Narkus & everyone thanks for the info boyz
Cheers :thumbsup:

After doing some research im pretty sure that it should just bolt straight on!!!
but im not 100% sure ill be asking my mechanic regardless tomorrow but does anyone know if this will bolt on for sure? If it does i think im going to go down this path and search out some 2nd hand turbos *decent condition*

Narkus & everyone thanks for the info boyz
Cheers :thumbsup:
Just keep in mind your auto wont be able to handle much boost, i've heard 5-7 psi is the most.
Also no idea if it fits, just make sure the engine is round the right way, and should be fine.

as long as the manifold is from an evo 4 upwards, your in business!

Aftermarket plenum. Can add torque in spades. Either multiple runner, longer runner, thinner runner, smaller plenum, larger plenum, internal jet laminar pipes, and so on. Best mod I ever did to my awd. Khorne has that particular multiple runner plenum. With my Mrs' :owned: permission I'd like to make more plenums (revised design). 2nd prototype is under secret development atm. will aim to be available initially for all 3rd Gen V6s, then definately the 2.4's and then 2nd Gen efi's. But definately intake time - and some cams :P

Contact me if it will fit, and I will pass some details onto you for a price efficient turbocharger and manifold, including all lines etc from an Evolution IV Lancer.

Contact me if it will fit, and I will pass some details onto you for a price efficient turbocharger and manifold, including all lines etc from an Evolution IV Lancer.

Ive been speaking to my mechanic about this and he seems to think it should fit!! And another mate i spoke to who knows a fair bit seems to think it will fit aswell!!
i need to find somewhere that will know for sure!! but yeh if u could find some prices anyways that would be great! cheers :thumbsup:

A quick way to up your 2.4 L power. Go buy an EVO Lancer or WRX Sub, and use it on the weekends only. Keep the Magna for your weekday drive. So, on the weekend you say - "What mood am I in, which car do I take?"

A quick way to up your 2.4 L power. Go buy an EVO Lancer or WRX Sub, and use it on the weekends only. Keep the Magna for your weekday drive. So, on the weekend you say - "What mood am I in, which car do I take?"

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl: hahahahah mate thats the best advice ive had!
why didnt i think of it myself!! ahhh thats right cause i dont have a spare 20k's!!!
lol do u wanna by me one!! hehehelol

With my Mrs' :owned: permission I'd like to make more plenums (revised design). 2nd prototype is under secret development atm. will aim to be available initially for all 3rd Gen V6s, then definately the 2.4's and then 2nd Gen efi's.

Does that mean youre unoffically unretired from active amc service? lol

I owned the exact same car as you, 2.4l Auto.

I did heaps of research on them, a cheaper mod is to go the RPW extractors, yes they have a racing set for these motors, and then the throttle body and intake plenum.

Also the motor in your car does fit the turbo stuff off of lancers, this is a very cheap effective option for you, I did'nt go down this path as the insurance is high, hence why I sold my old four banger TE and bought a TE V6 Manual instead.

Also the heads off the 4g63 turbo evo's fit onto your motor as well, they just plug up some of the drain holes, and walla, you'll have dohc turbo setup, ver nice dude, ver nice.

just make sure you get it off the right lancer as some have the engine the opposite way around

ffs read the thread people. Evo 4 upwards parts. Been said more than once.

I owned the exact same car as you, 2.4l Auto.

I did heaps of research on them, a cheaper mod is to go the RPW extractors, yes they have a racing set for these motors, and then the throttle body and intake plenum.

Also the motor in your car does fit the turbo stuff off of lancers, this is a very cheap effective option for you, I did'nt go down this path as the insurance is high, hence why I sold my old four banger TE and bought a TE V6 Manual instead.

Also the heads off the 4g63 turbo evo's fit onto your motor as well, they just plug up some of the drain holes, and walla, you'll have dohc turbo setup, ver nice dude, ver nice.


yeh it does fit and have done heaps research on the turbos!!! i think i found myself one in decent condition for $200 so im rapped about that *evo4* ill keep this thread updated when i install it all!! might be a while as i have to wait fot it to be delivered!! but then i need a lot of other things to go with it!! Intercooler, FPR, emange ecu..... i have most of the $$$ to do all this but still looking for a decent cheap intercooler and a good price on a ECU!!

yeh it does fit and have done heaps research on the turbos!!! i think i found myself one in decent condition for $200 so im rapped about that *evo4* ill keep this thread updated when i install it all!! might be a while as i have to wait fot it to be delivered!! but then i need a lot of other things to go with it!! Intercooler, FPR, emange ecu..... i have most of the $$$ to do all this but still looking for a decent cheap intercooler and a good price on a ECU!!

Don't forget upgraded fuel pump, and possiblly bigger injectors (depending on how far the stock units can be pushed).

Don't forget upgraded fuel pump, and possiblly bigger injectors (depending on how far the stock units can be pushed).

Ah yes of course another thing to worry about!!
thanks mate! i think im still missing something though....:confused:

I owned the exact same car as you, 2.4l Auto.

I did heaps of research on them, a cheaper mod is to go the RPW extractors, yes they have a racing set for these motors, and then the throttle body and intake plenum.

Also the motor in your car does fit the turbo stuff off of lancers, this is a very cheap effective option for you, I did'nt go down this path as the insurance is high, hence why I sold my old four banger TE and bought a TE V6 Manual instead.

Also the heads off the 4g63 turbo evo's fit onto your motor as well, they just plug up some of the drain holes, and walla, you'll have dohc turbo setup, ver nice dude, ver nice.

Also mate just wanted to know if u had the Racing extractors fitted onto your 2.4L
if so did u notice an increase in power?? just thinking if it will work better with the turbs or not!! :thumbsup:

Also mate just wanted to know if u had the Racing extractors fitted onto your 2.4L
if so did u notice an increase in power?? just thinking if it will work better with the turbs or not!! :thumbsup:

Extractors (the ones heydude had) will not work with a turbo (as they are made to direct exhust gasses into the exhaust pipe). You are going to be using the turbo exhaust manifold from an EVO4+ (that directs gases intot he turbos exhuast housing (to spin the compressor, so you get boost).

Extractors (the ones heydude had) will not work with a turbo (as they are made to direct exhust gasses into the exhaust pipe). You are going to be using the turbo exhaust manifold from an EVO4+ (that directs gases intot he turbos exhuast housing (to spin the compressor, so you get boost).

Thanks for the info Phonic just wanted to make sure :thumbsup:

Thanks for the info Phonic just wanted to make sure :thumbsup:

No worries, didn't want you to buy a set only to realise later on you can't use them:D

No worries, didn't want you to buy a set only to realise later on you can't use them:D

Yeh i was gonna by some before the turbs idea!! just didnt know whether it would work
with the turbs or not!! but now i know all good in the hood!! cheers mate!!

I have been looking into this stuff as well, where have you managed to find a manifold ??? or haven't you found one yet, i have seen one on e bay for $200 but wanted to get a std one to match up first, and are you going to run a decompression plate ??? or you going to run small boost with the standard compression?? are you going to get hi flow injectors or stock evo ones???

I have been looking into this stuff as well, where have you managed to find a manifold ??? or haven't you found one yet, i have seen one on e bay for $200 but wanted to get a std one to match up first, and are you going to run a decompression plate ??? or you going to run small boost with the standard compression?? are you going to get hi flow injectors or stock evo ones???

I have found a few ford_fella but as i said before ill be buying everything at once so im not waiting for weeks for seperate parts!! i was thinking of running small boost with standerd compression!! but some words from my mechanic made me think otherwise!!! got any good info for me ford_fella??

I'm still pricing it all up and working out if it's a viable option or if it would be better to buy an eclipse half cut, i just know the other haf would love her car to be turbo

I'm still pricing it all up and working out if it's a viable option or if it would be better to buy an eclipse half cut, i just know the other haf would love her car to be turbo

well do some research and get back 2 me!! im waiting for a call back from a friend who has a lot of contacts in impoting & exporting!! he is saying he might be able to get the parts i need even cheaper!! But i know now for sure thats its gonna fit!!! just waiting for a few phone calls back as i dont wanna be paying through my ass!!
But its looking like ill be getting this done 4 g's cheaper than i originally thought!!

my work actually imports half cuts and stuff so i can get a good deal too :-) hence why i am looking into it, need to keep the other half happy so then i can get my hands on a 2jz for my falcon :badgrin:

let me know what you find out and i will keep you informed

my work actually imports half cuts and stuff so i can get a good deal too :-) hence why i am looking into it, need to keep the other half happy so then i can get my hands on a 2jz for my falcon :badgrin:

let me know what you find out and i will keep you informed

Yeh sweet let me know what u find out and prices also!!
ill keep this thread updated and compare prices to see what
works out cheaper!!
Regards Matty :thumbsup:

just thought i would let ya know, got the intercooler today, just running one off an r33 skyline, not the biggest one in the world, but only planing on running 6psi to start with,


mark

just thought i would let ya know, got the intercooler today, just running one off an r33 skyline, not the biggest one in the world, but only planing on running 6psi to start with,


mark


ah so this is what uve been up to :P........ cant complain hehehe its all goin on my car.... turbo wagon here we come!!! :D

ah so this is what uve been up to :P........ cant complain hehehe its all goin on my car.... turbo wagon here we come!!! :D

Looks like your magna will be turbo before mine *starts crying :cry: * :D
how much did u score the intercooler for ford fella???

I got my all my prices last night Although nothing on manifold!! he said he will have another look around for one but atm he cant find one for the price im looking at!!
Any ideas guys! does anyone know of one in decent condition for a good price!!

When I looked at getting it done, the mechanics advised me to have a decompression plate.

yes it is a good idea and it's not hard to rip and the head off and throw one on, be a good time to do the timing belt too :-) even maybe a little head massage :badgrin: \

i will be putting one on as soon as i wanna boost above 6psi, which will probably as soon as teh hairdryer is strapped on

$200 stainless steel manifold of ebay. spoil yourself.

already seen that one and was looking at the feedback some good some bad

ah so this is what uve been up to :P........ cant complain hehehe its all goin on my car.... turbo wagon here we come!!! :D

**** - looks like there's gonna be a few turbo Magnas in the QMD house shortly :shifty:

**** - looks like there's gonna be a few turbo Magnas in the QMD house shortly :shifty:

Just an update from my end of the world . . . (WA) . . . i am going to be helping out in the construction of another 4G64 Turbo Magna. Over the next 12 months, we have a lot planned . . . including a DOHC head swap from an Evo . . . :badgrin:

Just an update from my end of the world . . . (WA) . . . i am going to be helping out in the construction of another 4G64 Turbo Magna. Over the next 12 months, we have a lot planned . . . including a DOHC head swap from an Evo . . . :badgrin:


Sounding good mate!! ill look forward to the end result! :thumbsup:

Just an update from my end of the world . . . (WA) . . . i am going to be helping out in the construction of another 4G64 Turbo Magna. Over the next 12 months, we have a lot planned . . . including a DOHC head swap from an Evo . . . :badgrin:

I'll be interested to follow this.. keep up updated :D

Hay All,
jus wondering wat figures are u r comin up with (prices) atm for your turbo conversions lik all ur mani's, turb, coola, pumps, injecs and all that cause within the next 5-6mnths i will b doing a turbo conversion myself so jus seein how much for a setup lik u guys r doing is going to cost.
Thanks.Kieran.

Well i have thorwn the towel in on the turbo idea as it is becoming the norm, so next trip to japan, a 2.5l GDI diamante will be cut in half :chainsaw: bring on another first for australia, first was a 3rd gen manual verada now a 2.5L GDI wagon :badgrin: 147.10kw stock :D

Well i have thorwn the towel in on the turbo idea as it is becoming the norm, so next trip to japan, a 2.5l GDI diamante will be cut in half :chainsaw: bring on another first for australia, first was a 3rd gen manual verada now a 2.5L GDI wagon :badgrin: 147.10kw stock :D

Just to let you know, the GDI's don't run very efficiently on our less refined fuel, higher (sulphur?) concentrations. Don't do it just to be different:P

oh is this so ??

how did you find this out ???


ahh maybe it's time to cut up a 3.5l mivec and spend the extra $500, :badgrin:

oh is this so ??

how did you find this out ???


ahh maybe it's time to cut up a 3.5l mivec and spend the extra $500, :badgrin:

Definatlly got he 3.5 MIVEC..lol.

With regards to the GDI, I read it off a site that explained the technical aspects of the Mitsubishi GDi system and how it didn't give the same advantages with "dirtier" fuels. They actually tested it some country (UK I think) and found no fuel economy advantages (it's biggest feature). It was later found to be the dirtier fuel, so it was only released in markets where the fuel quality was of a higher level.

GDi was mostly created for better fuel economy and emissions outputs.

Here is alink with a section that quicklly explains the reason it is no good here in Australia, CLICK ME (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_Direct_Injection)