Where does one get this information?

mitsubishi motors australia website, didn't someone ask the exact same question for march? lol.

It's always published on the MMAL website a few days after the start of each month. I'd imagine it'd be their tomorrow or Monday this week. From what I've heard sales for May were around 1,500+.

Anyone noticing they are more common on the roads now? Hopefully they sold more then.

Vfacts is the industry standards which state sales per month by model. Probably be available on monday or tuesday.

It's always published on the MMAL website a few days after the start of each month. I'd imagine it'd be their tomorrow or Monday this week. From what I've heard sales for May were around 1,500+.

Anyone noticing they are more common on the roads now? Hopefully they sold more then.
Have heard last couple days 1500 is around the mark, mainly Fleet Sales public, are still a bit hesitant on 380. Cant blame em really but then other Manufacturers would like more new car sales, blame fuel prices i suppose. Mitsubishi marketing got it wrong in the first place, prices etc....Nows the time to get 1/2 Dozen 380s to go around OZ in 10 days what-ever 24 hr a day driving to prove a point that show that they a quality car with guts not just a car to go shopping in & picking up kids after school , giving the general public a independent update daily... If they passed the test im sure sales would soar. What you think..

Sorry to sound like an ***....but i dont think it matters what we think lol.

mitsubishi motors australia website, didn't someone ask the exact same question for march? lol.
Yeah I did. I did a search too and found my old thread and the only link posted in that thread was one to MMAL website. I went there and there were no figures posted so I thought maybe there was somewhere else to get the information from. :rant:

1500 is decent. I'm seeing a lot more on the roads now, especially on my Thursday trip to Brisbane for work... the other day I saw 12 on the trip down and back, all varying models.

Yeh i'm seeing alot more now too. Mostly VRX's :shock:. Must be a popular model.

havent seen a single sx yet :shock:

Vfacts will be released on tuesday with the figures.

havent seen a single sx yet :shock:
Yeah I've seen a couple of SX's down here in Melbourne. One of them was a white (:confused:) SX with temporary no. plates - think it was a potential customer test driving it with a mitsu sales dude - hope it was sold:) !

Yeah I've seen a couple of SX's down here in Melbourne. One of them was a white () SX with temporary no. plates - think it was a potential customer test driving it with a mitsu sales dude - hope it was sold !

Yeah, I've seen a few going around with no plates on them as well. Hopefully they are also sold now.

Other then that I have seen two of them which have actually had normal SA plates on them. One blue and one red. Looked good aswell.

I haven't seen any SX models yet, but have seen some of the 'new' ES models.

It is quite a nice car but doesn't really fit in anywhere.... it's too big and bland to mix with the likes of Mazda6 or Liberty, and seems rather dull up against Commodore/Falcon but has the upper hand over the Camry. Anyway, they must work on what they have now, too late to go back to the drawing board.

I want this car to suceed but it won't do much better that the old Magna it seems. Even the old Magna was more sportier! 380 just looks like a big blob sedan for americans... well in a sense it is :P

BTW, the article on the 380 on Wikipedia seems to written like the car was destined to fail. I know it has all the facts right but it just had a negative tone throughout and more emphasis on the negative aspects. C'mon who here wrote it? :rant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_380

For the record, it doesn't have all the facts right.

Funny how the 380, despite increasing MMAL's market share in the 'large car' segment since it's release, is somehow labelled as a "failed successor to the Mitsubishi Magna/Verada line of vehicles". My God it's little more than 6 months old!:nuts:

It is clear that many motoring "critics" (or perhaps "cretins") appear to vie for browny points from the public and opt to denigrate the 380 in the false believe it will increase their popularity not only within their workplace, but with their readers (this would obviously explain the likes of Wheels mag's Nathan Ponchard et al).

Like teasing in school "the kid who gets teased by that cool kid so I'll do it to". "But I won't tease that cool kid (Holden) even though he's a sh!thead coz I'll get bashed by his followers (Ponchard)".

As for styling, meh... 'tis all subjective my dear Watson. I PERSONALLY do not see how the base 380 (DB II ES) is considered universally to be more bland than a Falcon XT or Commo Exec:confused:?

On the way home from work this arvo I saw a red VRX and blue LX. They both depict the 380 as a nice looking car and in VRX form certainly does stand out. It's dynamic styling needs a few tweeks admitedly, but no car is perfect (ie Tiidalol); though it does need a little more design flair.:doubt:

Well the results are out.

Poop.

The ones that matter:
Holden Commodore 4,362
Toyota Corolla 3,750
Ford Falcon 3,388
Mazda3 2,918
Toyota Yaris 2,495
Ford Focus 2,320
Toyota Hi-Lux 4x4 1,855
Hyundai Getz 1,849
Toyota Camry 4 cyl 1,479
Mitsubishi Lancer 1,373
Mitsubishi 380 1,201
Toyota Camry V6 871

hmmm, this is no good :disgusted , i guess the people aren't taking to it

Well the results are out.

Poop.

The ones that matter:
Holden Commodore 4,362
Toyota Corolla 3,750
Ford Falcon 3,388
Mazda3 2,918
Toyota Yaris 2,495
Ford Focus 2,320
Toyota Hi-Lux 4x4 1,855
Hyundai Getz 1,849
Toyota Camry 4 cyl 1,479
Mitsubishi Lancer 1,373
Mitsubishi 380 1,201
Toyota Camry V6 871

Ouch. While 1,201 is definitely not the worst month to date I would have liked to have seen more than that moved. If the new BEP is set at around 1,500 units a month I don't see why they can't sell that many. Me thinks the marketing department at MMAL should get off their asses.

That would seem about right... we all know its a great car, but the public will first notice the exterior styling and it's Magna lineage before even considering it. Which is a shame.

The ES model while being competent just screams cheap. Sadly..

It's ride height is too tall, it has ugly wheel covers, even the optioned alloys make it look old/cheap. Maybe make the ES model with a 4cyl engine only for old gramps, it still ****s all over the Camry.

PS - Marketing won't be able to fix a car which isn't that much more 'innovative' than its predecessor.

Certainly is disappointing, though I'd be interested to see the market share percentage. On the plus side I just found this on MMAL's website:

(start quote): "MITSUBISHI 380 WINS FLEET AWARD

Mitsubishi's 380 sedan has won 'Delivery' magazine's Best Fleet Car award in their Vehicle of the Year Awards 2006.

Managing Editor and Publisher of 'Delivery' magazine, Chris Mullett, said when making the award:

'The 380 is a driver's car that offers best in class performance, driveability and economy at an exceptional price.

Look no further than the 380 as your next fleet replacement or personal choice.'

The award was made in Melbourne with the support of the Australian Fleet Manager's Association as part of a range of fleet awards made by the magazine, and was accepted by Iaen Paul, Mitsubishi's National Manager, Fleet Sales.

Mr Paul said that it was extremely gratifying for the 380 to be recognised with such an award.

'We set out to make 380 a sporty, agile car, and this is very much what Delivery magazine have picked up on. The 380 continues to gain increased market acceptance month by month, and winning an award like this that will be promoted through AFMA will only help support its sales growth,' Mr Paul said." (end quote).:)

Well if you work out the maths behind the new pricing and the old pricing, MMAL is now in a worse position than what it was under the old pricing scheme.

...PS - Marketing won't be able to fix a car which isn't that much more 'innovative' than its predecessor.
Actually the job of promoting a car that may not necessarily be much more 'innovative' than its predecessor is precisely up the marketing team's alley.

Some of these guys can be genius'. They can have the unsuspecting customer believe the Lexus GS430 is alive, that the Toyota Aurion will change the face of the Aussie 6 (rubbish!), or that the Commo SVZ is somehow, er, good.

So it might not fix the car itself, but marketing can certainly fix the car's public image which is what really matters, as it translates into sales, therefore increasing profitability and sustained growth for Mitsubishi in the future.

Well I think the issue that MMAL must be facing is not so much as in their in house marketing, but whichever marketing company that they are using for their tv advertising campaigns. They should hire another firm.

Well I think the issue that MMAL must be facing is not so much as in their in house marketing, but whichever marketing company that they are using for their tv advertising campaigns. They should hire another firm.
HERE HERE!!!:soapbox:

1201 Minus fleet Sales, Hmmmm would be interesting to know,how many did the general public buy?

Actually the job of promoting a car that may not necessarily be much more 'innovative' than its predecessor is precisely up the marketing team's alley.

Some of these guys can be genius'. They can have the unsuspecting customer believe the Lexus GS430 is alive, that the Toyota Aurion will change the face of the Aussie 6 (rubbish!), or that the Commo SVZ is somehow, er, good.

So it might not fix the car itself, but marketing can certainly fix the car's public image which is what really matters, as it translates into sales, therefore increasing profitability and sustained growth for Mitsubishi in the future.

You do have a point there actually. Well, I see the 380SX as the model they can milk to the public to increase sales. If they push the 'extras' that it has over the ES and further promote its 'sportiness', then people might take a second glance.

My guesstimate would be around 350-400 private buyers from the 1201 total. Fleet purchases also include things such as the increasingly popular novated lease, which is as close as one can get to buying as a private customer (due to choice).

Well I think the issue that MMAL must be facing is not so much as in their in house marketing, but whichever marketing company that they are using for their tv advertising campaigns. They should hire another firm.
Quoting myself but anyway - technically there should be no reason why they could not use the firms responsible for the other manufacturers campaigns that work (assuming the majority are created out of house). If they are using the same people who Ford and Holden use, thens they should demand better performance, if they can afford it!

Quoting myself but anyway - technically there should be no reason why they could not use the firms responsible for the other manufacturers campaigns that work (assuming the majority are created out of house). If they are using the same people who Ford and Holden use, thens they should demand better performance, if they can afford it!
Hmm... affordability... me thinks you're on to something there Dave!

Hey if the present situation gets any more desperate they'll have to bring back and dust off the old "please consider" campaign.:bowrofl: :doubt:

Total number of 380s sold in the first 8 months is 8,724.

FF

Total number of 380s sold in the first 8 months is 8,724.

FF

When you put in the total number of 380's sold in a long time frame it really doesn't look good. That is a horrible amount of car's for MMAL to sell over an eight month period and would probably be the lowest amount of car's the Tonsely Park plant has produced under the Mitsubishi brand in that type of time-frame. While saying that though, it is game on. The real test on 380 sales exists from the start of May 2006; effectively a 'new series' for the car marking a somewhat new beginning in the cars short history. By this time next year (if sales continue to build) hopefully they would have sold 15,000 - 20,000 cars in a 12 month time frame.

i actually think its a OK result, yeah i know 1200 falls short of the target 1500 and with the decrease in rrp etc.. but the 380 came in at 11th place, thats pretty good.

Its just that the whole car market is having a slow down atm, so considering the circumstances the 380 is doing not too badly ( we beat the v6 camry lol )

i actually think its a OK result, yeah i know 1200 falls short of the target 1500 and with the decrease in rrp etc.. but the 380 came in at 11th place, thats pretty good.

Its just that the whole car market is having a slow down atm, so considering the circumstances the 380 is doing not too badly ( we beat the v6 camry lol )
But we lost to the 4 cyl Camry.

The car market is down slightly, but the large cars have sufferered one of the largest drops, probably second to the 4wds.

if we combine the 4 & 6 cylinder camry's they are way infront of us. just shows that mistsubishi "might've" be doing ok had it produce a 4 cyclinder also.

and with he high fuel price everyones flocking to small cars, i think mitusbishi kinda got it wrong again with thier small car. the colt is too expensive, they should have somethign to compete in the 15k mark like the good ol mirage used to do/.

but what im saying is atm its not all doom and gloom for mitsubishi like so many of us here making it out to be.

i actually think its a OK result, yeah i know 1200 falls short of the target 1500 and with the decrease in rrp etc.. but the 380 came in at 11th place, thats pretty good.

Its just that the whole car market is having a slow down atm, so considering the circumstances the 380 is doing not too badly ( we beat the v6 camry )

Yeah true. 11th place overall doesn't seem that bad. It's amazing that the Lancer is still up their! Actually considering it's mechanical specs (with standard 2.4l engine) and more standard features it has given it some guts. I mean, it seems strange because it is an old model now and the all new Lancer is going to come out early next year, but looking at other sales, it isn't that suprising; for example, look at the sales of the Corolla, and that is a dated POS and people still buy it!


if we combine the 4 & 6 cylinder camry's they are way infront of us. just shows that mistsubishi "might've" be doing ok had it produce a 4 cyclinder also.

and with he high fuel price everyones flocking to small cars, i think mitusbishi kinda got it wrong again with thier small car. the colt is too expensive, they should have somethign to compete in the 15k mark like the good ol mirage used to do/.

but what im saying is atm its not all doom and gloom for mitsubishi like so many of us here making it out to be.

Why I know it wasn't you who made the initial comparison, the Camry four cylinder and the 380 should not be compared. The four-cylinder Camry sells bucketloads more because people are sooooo concerned about fuel economy. If their was a 240 then a combined sales figure along with the 380 would be comparable to a total Camry sales figure.

If MMAL could push further to obtain the four cylinder engine and get it ASAP then they wouldn't have to worry about meeting a 1,500 a month sales target as they would easily be selling 2,000+ a month (240 and 380 sales combine).

am i right in thinking that they dont group the camry 4 and 6 sales together yet they group the commodore 6 and 8 together? along with the falcon 6 and 8?

but there are ppl who thinks the corollas are "sexy" like one of my friend who owns a corolla sedan

We'll that means that their are too many blind people buying cars :bowrofl:



... and with he high fuel price everyones flocking to small cars, i think mitusbishi kinda got it wrong again with thier small car. the colt is too expensive, they should have somethign to compete in the 15k mark like the good ol mirage used to do/.

but what im saying is atm its not all doom and gloom for mitsubishi like so many of us here making it out to be.

The Colt is expensive beacause it is made in Holland. Due to currency differences and labour costs (in Europe) anything coming from Europe is always expensive. Good news for the Colt is that cheaper manual versions of the Colt will be released later this year, hopefully bringing the price down by $2k. Apparently a 3-door version could be on the way too. If that is true we could have a manual, 3 door Colt for around $15k, which combined with unbeatable build quality, and 5.7l/100km fuel economy (probably less for the 3 door) would give MMAL a car to sell and market well. I just wish MMAL would make 15's standard on it as the 14's look tiny.

i deleted that post becoz i didnt wanna bag anyone :D

see this shows that there are ppl who buy toyotas becoz they think they are sexy and exciting, his 21 btw lol

am i right in thinking that they dont group the camry 4 and 6 sales together yet they group the commodore 6 and 8 together? along with the falcon 6 and 8?
When given out in a list of individual model sales (ie top 10/top 20) the "Toyota Camry" will show a combined total. However VFACTS can also release individual data like how many 6 cylinder and V8 Falcodores were sold, what percentage of sales are fleet/private, or how many Magna/Verada's were sold (they're still selling!) etc.

Total number of 380s sold in the first 8 months is 8,724.

FF
Toyota have sold 10000 Yaris so far first 5 months 2006 & lovin it, Hyundai Getz figures up by 23%, Ford Focus up 74%, Da BIG V6s sales are stuffed, even G.M.H are in panic mode trying to work out how many new VE models to build so Dealers & G.M.H arent overstocked. Small cars will rule in 2006....380 is going to battle to maintain sales levels for the rest of the year....

i don't like small cars, especially shopping trolleys like getz, barinas etc

i'm starting to have doubts about the survial of mist, once the fleet sales stop, there ****ed

i don't like small cars, especially shopping trolleys like getz, barinas etc

i'm starting to have doubts about the survial of mist, once the fleet sales stop, there ****ed
Not entirely sure what you're getting at with the stopage of fleet sales, but I can assure you that 380's fleet figures will only increase thanks to much more attractive pricing and having just been awarded "Best Fleet Car" by Delivery magazine (leading publication for business fleet industry).

Of more concern is it's private sales figures which have fallen to around 30% from over 50% in it's first few months on the market. The expected popularity of Aurion and VE Commo will no doubt have an impact on the 380, at least until it's updated early next year with styling tweaks (hopefully) and upgraded engines etc.

Also the new Outlander, and particularly the next Lancer will no doubt boost their fleet appeal once they're released, not to mention their appeal to private buyers.:)

yea, the private sales isn't good, and like you said, the new commo, aurion,etc, are gonna hammer the already lack of sales in the 380

i hate to say it, but it's a pink elephant with the general public, only those who look into cars with greater enuthisum will understand which cars are good, and those that are bombs,

i reckon the only reason the sales are crap is due to the public misconception that this is a new magna, and that vision, is damn hard to shift

To be honest i'm seeing alot of similarities in looks between the VE, Aurion and 380. To the non branded car buyers (eg. non enthusiests) i'd say it will come down to who can offer the best price for what.
The large car segment might be slowing down, but it'll never die. The late 70's/early 80's is a good example of that. People will always need the room a large car offers.
I believe that the 380 has all that people want, they just need to do some MARKETING! I know people who dont even know what a magna is, let alone a 380. But they know what a falcon and a commodore is, that's the problem mitsubishi has i reckon.

yea, your right, lack of good marketing

MMAL will be focusing largely on upcoming new Colt, Lancer and Outlander models (particularly the latter two). Their primary reliance for sales of 380 at the moment will be it's incredibly competitive pricing coupled with minimalist advertising and marketing. But watch for early next year, they will attack the large car market with FULL FORCE!!!:cool: Just wait and see...:P

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I'd also expect them to do something around the time Aurion and VE Commo are released.

MMAL will be focusing largely on upcoming new Colt, Lancer and Outlander models (particularly the latter two). Their primary reliance for sales of 380 at the moment will be it's incredibly competitive pricing coupled with minimalist advertising and marketing. But watch for early next year, they will attack the large car market with FULL FORCE!!! Just wait and see...

*edit*
I'd also expect them to do something around the time Aurion and VE Commo are released.


The upcoming new Colt should add some appeal, particuarly in the small car stakes, as MMAL will now have competitively priced small car (which is of higher quality then any other small car!). In terms of looks, the updated Colt looks better then the last, and any small car looks better then the Yaris.

As you said, MMAL will also focus on marketing the Lancer and Outlander well. Which is common sense. The CH Lancer has always sold well and going by the looks of the concept pictures of the next-gen Lancer 2007 could well be the year of the Lancer. The Outlander will hot-up the SUV sector and should be a priority to market well. The next-gen Outlander has been the number 1 selling SUV in Japan almost every month since its release (YES, THE NEW OUTLANDER OUTSELLS THE NEW RAV4!). With these two models and a facelifted 380 (with hot engines and as you said, hopefully some HOT styling tweaks and possibly some added features; along with a new 380 marketing campaign [Question:I wonder if the updated 380 will retain the DB model code?]) Mitsubishi will have some excellent sales in the near future.

That's without even taking mention of the face-lifted (new front and rear styling and all-new interior and better wheel arches) and the all-new-Triton due next month. MMAL will finally have a hold handful of all-new models to play with, which will also increase dealer traffic, and hopefully give the brand some positive media attention. Apparently we may get the Mitsubishi 'i' minicar here (source: Wheels Magazine) and there is some talk of the next RHD Eclipse coming to AUS (I doubt it, but we can only dream).

[06.06.06]
Mitsubishi’s Sales Improve Again In May With New Products To Start Rolling Out

Mitsubishi's May sales result saw the Company further increase its market share to 5.9% (from 5.6% in April) in an extremely competitive market.

Mitsubishi continued its strong results for its imported product, enjoying its best result since June 2005. Lancer sales were up a massive 90%, selling 557 more vehicles compared to last month, and in the Light Car segment, Colt sales were 20% more than last month. Pajero was another vehicle that had a good month with a sales increase of 41% over April.

Locally, 380's sales lifted 17% over April. 380 Series 2 is now starting to make it's mark after it's release at the end of April, and there is strong promise of further sales growth of 380 Series 2 through dealership enquiry, as well as through continuing fleet interest.

President and CEO, Robert McEniry was satisfied with the May figures, saying:

"It is satisfying to see the early impact of 380 Series 2, and I expect that sales will continue to improve each month from here on. I'm also pleased about the progressive boost in Mitsubishi's market share. We're still gaining market share in what I consider to be the toughest market environment I've seen in years, and this is quite an accomplishment.

With some of our other models beginning run-out to make way for all new models in the coming months - such as Triton, Colt, Pajero and the eagerly anticipated Outlander - Mitsubishi looks set to enjoy further sales success in the future."

ends

EDIT: Holden Boy is doing good. Numbers are heading the right direction, as opposed to some brands I will not mention.....

With some of our other models beginning run-out to make way for all new models in the coming months - such as Triton, Colt, Pajero and the eagerly anticipated Outlander - Mitsubishi looks set to enjoy further sales success in the future."

ends

EDIT: Holden Boy is doing good. Numbers are heading the right direction, as opposed to some brands I will not mention.....

That Outlander is going to do some damage to Toyota (in RAV4 sales) and with the revised pricing and model line-up of the Colt due soon MMAL may also make some sales in the light-car segment. The new Triton is good on the eye, incorporates features (particuarly safety features) of luxury European vehicles (curtain airbags; ESP) and should also sell well in the ute/suv (it's kind of both if you look at what it offers) market segment. The new Pajero is over-due, but should also take some sales of the Land Cruiser because of the features offered in the new model (curtain airbags, ESP, etc.) compared to what the Land Cruiser offers.

AND... The Lancer (not mentioned above) is meant to be getting released early or mid next year. If MMAL can release it a few good months after (or before) the updated 380 is released then they can hopefully maintain decent levels of interest (and I spose excitement) in the Mitsubishi brand (and hopefully boost sales!).

Finally. About 'Holden Boy', well I agree. Rob has made good descisions (so far) to keep MMAL alive and raise sales not only of locally made products but imported ones. I'm glad to see that Mitsubishi are getting new products in their line up rather then rebadging Daewoo's to use in the MMAL product lineup because of the ultra low RRP (and ultra low quality!).

With some of our other models beginning run-out to make way for all new models in the coming months - such as Triton, Colt, Pajero and the eagerly anticipated Outlander - Mitsubishi looks set to enjoy further sales success in the future."


n e pics around of these new models?

n e pics around of these new models?

Yep! Links below (Pajero is a bit vague to judge):

Outlander: http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2060427.008/country/jcf/Mitsubishi/2007-mitsubishi-outlander-usa

Pajero: www.worldcarfans.com/.../country/jcf/spyphotoID/ 6060522.001/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-2007-spy-photos (http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/jcf/spyphotoID/6060522.001/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-2007-spy-photos)

Triton: http://www.sonirodban.com/triton.html

Colt CZC (convertible): http://www.carkeys.co.uk/road_test/mitsubishi/10074.asp

Colt Ralliart: http://www.carkeys.co.uk/road_test/mitsubishi/10074.asp

Lancer EVO X (concepts; but once released isn't meant to look too much different from this one): http://www.automobilemag.com/future_cars/2008/0604_2008_mitsubishi_lancer_evolution_x/

Please comment on the new models everyone. How HOT does the Concept X look? And the Outlander (perfect!) and the Colt actually looks nice, Triton is good and Pajero is too easy to tell (but looks better from the not so large wheel arches)

The Outlander looks AMAZING, inside and out. Pajero is too hard to tell yet. Triton looks ok... front end needs to grow on me. Colt - some people will like it... too Nissan Micra for me. Ralliart Colt link was the same as the Colt link (wrong link for Ralliart Colt) And Evo X - Well, what can I say about that... Pure sex on wheels. I think it's one of the best looking cars ever made and in a few years I will own one.

Sorry about the Ralliart Colt link.
I found this website on it:
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/06/01/mitsubishi-launches-colt-ralliart-version-r/


How much do you think MMAL will sell the Colt Raliart for? If priced right I think it could sell. I was suprised that the Colt Ralliart also has ASC (ESC) as a standard feature! Heck, every car in the Mitsubishi range seems to be getting it so surely this feature will make its way into the 380 soon.

I like the wording; the little FWD pocket racer is "motivated" by 154hp (115kW) engine.:bowrofl:

Looks good, I suspect they'd price it in the high 20s/low 30s.

MMAL are currently developing an evolutionary form of ESP with Bosch.

Have a look at this. It has the key features illustrated of the Colt on this page:
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/colt/lineup/lin_01.html

Looks as though the Mitsubishi Multimedia Entertainment System is optional and that the car has an engine start/stop button (which we should have in our 380!). If we get the inegrated looking stereo (which matches the dash) as standard instead of the cheap one which is added after for the other Colts in Oz the dash would look respectable.

I still can't beleive that the Colt is going to have Electronic Stability Control and the 380 doesn't!

I reckon that little Ralliart Colt is hot man. 150 odd HP @ 6000rpm and 210nM @ 3500rpm, it's gonna be a little rocket.

sh!t me, i must say that is a stunner from the front, but the vertical lights at the back still dont do it, it does look bloody sporty though, freeken recaro's and everything!

...and a proper manual transmission as well:D

I reckon is they put the LED lights as on the Grandis on the Colt ralliart with the black tinting it would look hot.

In what is otherwise a very good SUV, two important omissions in the new Outlander released in NZ a few months ago are:
1) no audio controls on steering wheel; and
2) no telescopic steering wheel.

www.outlander.co.nz

The Outlander does have steering wheel audio controls. Perhaps they version of the new Outlander reviewed doesn't have the controls, because (even in the link you provided of the Outlander) it is evident that they are there.

Apart from not having a telescopic steering wheel (I thought it was) it is a perfect SUV.

The Outlander does have steering wheel audio controls. Perhaps they version of the new Outlander reviewed doesn't have the controls, because (even in the link you provided of the Outlander) it is evident that they are there.

Apart from not having a telescopic steering wheel (I thought it was) it is a perfect SUV.

The base model don't have steering wheel audio controls. Not sure about the mid model. But the top of the range definitely had the controls.
I don't like the auto tumble fold second row seats. It's going to be back breaking to put them back manually. Besides, it won't give as much cargo loading space as seats that fold flat onto the floor.