Just been looking threw the mitsu website but cant find andything about a 380 wagon. Does anyone know if they will be making a wagon version?

thanks in advance

There isnt one and ill doubt theyll ever be one, i dont think any of the Galant platform models are wagons and with the way the markets going, mitsu figure the outlander, lancer wagon and pajero will cover there bases.

I you want a wagon the BF falcon is about your only bet

I wouldn't think so. The US Galant on which the 380 is based does not come in wagon form, and I don't believe any other countries with the Galant platform do either. So if Mitsu Australia wanted a 380 wagon, they would have to design themselves. I can imagine that costing a lot of money and therefore cannot see it ever happening.

Plus, they have the Lancer wagon and Outlander to sort of fill the gap left behind by the Maggie wagon.

Never.

If you want a V6 wagon wait for the new Outlander with the 3L MIVEC V6

The US Galant on which the 380 is based does not come in wagon form

i dont think any of the Galant platform models are wagons and with the way the markets going

Not entirely correct guys, the Mitsubishi endeavour (AWD wagon) is on the same platform as the US Galant and shares many common features, some dash features and door trim design being one of them.

However will we see it? You bet not!

http://www.mitsubishicars.com/images/2006/end/photos/large_1_ex.jpg
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/images/2006/end/photos/large_2_in.jpg

There are 3 things that could be developed into the 380 and its range...

1) 4 cylinder version - a near certainty

2) AWD drivetrain - possible however unlikely

3) wagon variant - NEVER!

The reason being that of the 3 above, the 4 cylinder is be far the most feasible and financially beneficial for MMAL, followed by AWD and wagon. Apparently the new gen Lancer wagon will be released mid 2007 and will offer similar space and loading capacity to the old Magna wagon.

well that sux....thanks for all the info peoples. Have to keep looking then...

Hey, just wait out for the new Outlander. It will have a 6-speed automatic transmission, 170kw MIVEC 3l V6 and other cool features making this SUV unique in its price range (Xenon headlights, LED taillights, 6 airbags, ESP, 650w Rockford Fosgate stereo, Key FOB entry system, and other cool things). It is selling double its sales expectations and is the number one selling SUV (sells more then the 'new' RAV4) in Japan, it is expected to sell well elsewhere; it is an amazing vehicle and has soooooo many features that if we had in the 380, it would also sell like hotcakes. The best thing about the new Outlander is it not only has more features then you could remember of the top of your head, is that it looks bloody awsome (best MMC SUV/4WD design I've seen so far!).

Oh, and if you're worried about fuel economy it wouldn't matter so much as the new Outlander also has driver selected 2WD/4WD/LOCK, which when used in 2WD mode has acheived fuel figures of 8.6l/100km on a combined cycle.

It is selling double its sales expectations and is the number one selling SUV (sells more then the 'new' RAV4) in Japan
Not always a good thing, MMAL will probably stuggle with supply to be allocated enough units to meet Australian demand.

In fact they will probably concentrate sales volumes and marketing expenditure in their domestic market and North America first off.

Not always a good thing, MMAL will probably stuggle with supply to be allocated enough units to meet Australian demand.

In fact they will probably concentrate sales volumes and marketing expenditure in their domestic market and North America first off.

If they are already selling 4,000+ units a month in Japan, in America the Outlander may sell 10,000 - 15,000 units a month (as MMC did sell those numbers a few years a go). If the Japanese plant can't produce enough to feed American demand I doubt it we'll see that many of them here first off (just like the situation with the new Hyundai Sonata). I read somewhere that the plant producing the Outlander is running at capacity, but I'm pretty sure they'd be building at this rate to build up stocks (in LHD variant) for North America.

Either way I just can't wait for it. My mum really likes the look of it too, I was showing her the VR-X version and perhaps it will be her next car :) :) It's strange talking about MMC selling double their sales target as usually its words only spoken my Toyota (who now have the capacity to build boatloads of cars). I wonder when MMAL will release their sales expectations for the new Outlander (and the upcoming Lancer) because these products will play a major roll in restructuring the companys future in Aus.

Perhaps MMAL could build the Outlander in Oz with the excess capacity available at the Tonsley Park plant. This way we wouldn't have to worry about local demand and we would have the newer 2.4l MIVEC engine here to place in the 380 (creating a 240).

dont want a suv...want a wagon...dumped on guts easier

Hey, just wait out for the new Outlander. It will have a 6-speed automatic transmission, 170kw MIVEC 3l V6 and other cool features making this SUV unique in its price range (Xenon headlights, LED taillights, 6 airbags, ESP, 650w Rockford Fosgate stereo, Key FOB entry system, and other cool things). It is selling double its sales expectations and is the number one selling SUV (sells more then the 'new' RAV4) in Japan, it is expected to sell well elsewhere; it is an amazing vehicle and has soooooo many features that if we had in the 380, it would also sell like hotcakes. The best thing about the new Outlander is it not only has more features then you could remember of the top of your head, is that it looks bloody awsome (best MMC SUV/4WD design I've seen so far!).

Oh, and if you're worried about fuel economy it wouldn't matter so much as the new Outlander also has driver selected 2WD/4WD/LOCK, which when used in 2WD mode has acheived fuel figures of 8.6l/100km on a combined cycle.

I hope that the 6 cyl gets here. The new Outlander is already available in NZ and it's only the 2.4L 4cyl.
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.nz/products/outlander/
The base NZ model doesn't have audio controls on the steering wheel. Not sure about the mid model. The top of the range definitely has steering wheel audio controls.
Just like the 380, a telescopic steering wheel is not available.
The tumble fold second row seats would be a pain to put back and doesn't give as much cargo space as seats that fold flat to the floor.
There's only a space saver spare tyre.
Even for the top of the range model, the steering wheel and gear shift knob are only urethane, no leather.
Apart from the above omissions, the new Outlander is a very good SUV.

Our version will have a full size spare (I don't see why they wouldn't include one) and the 3l MIVEC V6 version won't come to AUS until early 2007 but we WILL get it.

snip 170kw MIVEC 3l V6 snip/

You mean 150kW 3.0L Mivec V6 :P

^^^ Even though they had a 199kW MIVEC 3L in the Diamante? Guess it's due to those damn emmission laws :cry:

I thought I read somewhere that MMC was developing or had developed a LWB luxury version of the Galant? If that was true and it was in production somewhere, then it would be possible for MMAL to import the floorpan and chassis then whack on a wagon body. Although that sure as hell won't happen unless the 380 can increase it's sales. And the only way that they can do that is by spending some money and using some of MMC advanced engine technology(MIVEC/DGI) and an AWD platform. That would then make the 380 both more powerful and efficient than it's opposition (Commodore/Falcon). To me it doesn't seem like it would be a massive task as they have the technology, all they need to do is change the tooling in the factories. :rant: If I was boss of mitsu grrrr

Wish the'd bring back the Mitsu Legnum (Twin turbo fun :badgrin: )
Seems strange not to have a large car wagon (not a small Lancer or SUV).

To put a leftfield twist into play (I'm still in soccer mode:P), if demand for the new Outlander in Japan, the US and Australia proves to stretch the Japanese plant beyond it's capabilities, there is a certain manufacturing plant in a certain "Crow-eater" town that has the necessary facilities to manufacture a second line of vehicles, like the Outlander, alongside a certain FWD family sedan. Er, WINK, WINK ;) ;) :P

To put a leftfield twist into play (I'm still in soccer mode), if demand for the new Outlander in Japan, the US and Australia proves to stretch the Japanese plant beyond it's capabilities, there is a certain manufacturing plant in a certain "Crow-eater" town that has the necessary facilities to manufacture a second line of vehicles, like the Outlander, alongside a certain FWD family sedan. Er, WINK, WINK

I really hope that is the case and that this certain factory begins manufacturing the Outlander. Good thing is that the new Outlander is on the same platform as the next Gen Lancer, so if they are able to build the Oultander locally (and it continues to sell well) they may also be able to build the RHD next Gen Lancer here. Which would be a good thing if small/mid (more fuel efficient) cars continue to increase in popularity.

To put a leftfield twist into play (I'm still in soccer mode), if demand for the new Outlander in Japan, the US and Australia proves to stretch the Japanese plant beyond it's capabilities, there is a certain manufacturing plant in a certain "Crow-eater" town that has the necessary facilities to manufacture a second line of vehicles, like the Outlander, alongside a certain FWD family sedan. Er, WINK, WINK

I really hope that is the case and that this certain factory begins manufacturing the Outlander. Good thing is that the new Outlander is on the same platform as the next Gen Lancer, so if they are able to build the Oultander locally (and it continues to sell well) they may also be able to build the RHD next Gen Lancer here. Which would be a good thing if small/mid (more fuel efficient) cars continue to increase in popularity.

You mean 150kW 3.0L Mivec V6

No, I actually did mean 170kw 3.0L MIVEC V6.

I know this power figure seems very impressive for a 3.0litre engine, but 170kw is how much it produces stock. Going by this Australian website (http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/mitsubishi-outlander-2007.htm) it states that the engine may deliver as much as 179kw of power! Geeeez, if the 3.0L is going to output more power then the 3.8L in the 380 it really shows how dated the 380's engine is. Hopefully if this sells well MMAL see the sense (in hopefully) getting permission to use the MIVEC 3.8 (which generates >192kw of power).

A lot of the cost in bringing in a new model line is the mamoth costs for the production of new jigs and dies for certain components.

Then you have batch shifting costs, and other downtime costs associated with each time you switch output from say the 380 to whatever.

However, if the adelaide plant has a high level of production efficiency, there could be a possibility for the importation of complete knock down kits for reassembly (ie all bodypannels etc molded OS then imported), but then your going to have an issue with supply shipment and warehousing, something that is not in the scope of just in time production techniques.

No, I actually did mean 170kw 3.0L MIVEC V6.

I know this power figure seems very impressive for a 3.0litre engine, but 170kw is how much it produces stock. Going by this Australian website (http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/mitsubishi-outlander-2007.htm) it states that the engine may deliver as much as 179kw of power! Geeeez, if the 3.0L is going to output more power then the 3.8L in the 380 it really shows how dated the 380's engine is. Hopefully if this sells well MMAL see the sense (in hopefully) getting permission to use the MIVEC 3.8 (which generates >192kw of power).

Only reason I stated 150kW was due to previouse articles (3 of them) I read about the new outlander had power stated a 150. But as we know anything can happen. Otherwise I'm more then well aware of what mitsubishi has done with 3.0 in the past. :P

Even though it would have more "power", the 380 would have more potential for more torque.