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hy_boi
22-06-2006, 09:57 AM
Just looking into the possiblities of either turbo or supercharging..i would prefer to supercharge as the power spread would be a bit better, and well was just wondering who's done it before and the difference in costs etc
Thanks
Scott

Matty_J
22-06-2006, 10:14 AM
Just looking into the possiblities of either turbo or supercharging..i would prefer to supercharge as the power spread would be a bit better, and well was just wondering who's done it before and the difference in costs etc
Thanks
Scott


S/C or T/C act the same and imo i would rather turbo charge than supercharge.
a few on here have done the supercharger with costs of 8k, and turbo charging you can get done cheaper if u suss out the parts yourself, im getting my turbo conversion done at the moment, just wainting on my manifold. but ive worked it all out and will set me back about$1500 all up including, evo turbo & manifold, intercooler, greddy emange, and also installing an RPW CAI. and then later on upgrading breaks etc.

imo S/C will cost u a lot more. :thumbsup:

VRADA
22-06-2006, 10:19 AM
but ive worked it all out and will set me back about$1500 all up including, evo turbo & manifold, intercooler, greddy emange, and also installing an RPW CAI.

sorry? :doubt:
$1500 for a turbo upgrade? ud spend that on the emange alone.....

hy_boi
22-06-2006, 10:20 AM
Yeah i was only thinking s/c cause more power down low as well most of my driving is at the 60k mark and stop go, and turbo would be a waste round town plus not doin 150k/h all the time..and yeah was expecting that much difference's in costs.
scott

Matty_J
22-06-2006, 10:22 AM
sorry? :doubt:
$1500 for a turbo upgrade? ud spend that on the emange alone.....


Nah mate!! the greddys emanage go for about 500. i got mine second hand. i also got all other parts second hand and have done at least 2 months of searching and still going. im saying it will work out 2 be about 1500 give or take. depends how cheap i can get a manifold for.

VRADA
22-06-2006, 10:23 AM
Nah mate!! the greddys emanage go for about 500. i got mine second hand. i also got all other parts second hand and have done at least 2 months of searching and still going. im saying it will work out 2 be about 1500 give or take. depends how cheap i can get a manifold for.

good luck to ya, but i honestly cant believe wat your saying. yeah ive seen emange's 2nd hand for like $600. but the whole set up for $1500? i dont know man....
anyways best of luck.

Redav
22-06-2006, 10:25 AM
Nah mate!! the greddys emanage go for about 500. i got mine second hand. i also got all other parts second hand and have done at least 2 months of searching and still going. im saying it will work out 2 be about 1500 give or take. depends how cheap i can get a manifold for.
But that's just for the unit alone. You want more than the unit like the additional harnesses and boost related stuff.

And for the record, turbos and superchargers aren't just the same. They're driven by different sources so deliver bost different.

Matty_J
22-06-2006, 10:28 AM
But that's just for the unit alone. You want more than the unit like the additional harnesses and boost related stuff.

And for the record, turbos and superchargers aren't just the same. They're driven by different sources so deliver bost different.


yeh exactly!! there are a lot of ad on's for the emange. although for now the basic unit will do. Turbos arent that expensive if you look around for a decent second hand one. yeh installing brand new turbos will cost and arm and a leg but 2nd hand u can get for good prices. :D

cthulhu
22-06-2006, 10:35 AM
Was going to comment on the evo turbo being too small, or that I was amazed you'd found manifolds so cheap, but then I noticed you've got a 4cyl not a 6cyl lol

To the OP, you don't need to be going fast to get a benefit from a turbo. Appropriately sized turbos will be on boost from very low engine speeds (obviously not as low as a supercharger which is practically always on boost).

You can do either conversion for about the same price so long as you're comparing apples with apples - a kit vs a kit, or DIY vs DIY.

Black Beard
22-06-2006, 10:36 AM
yeah ive seen emange's 2nd hand for like $600.

Hope you didn't buy one......... can get brand new emanage for $600 (or less).

@Matty_J - I can see you getting the ECU, turbo and manifold for $1500 second hand. I can't see you getting that + intercoolder/piping, oil and water lines, BOV, and fuel system hardware and still comming in under that price.

Good luck with your project though!!

Black Beard
22-06-2006, 10:39 AM
To the OP, you don't need to be going fast to get a benefit from a turbo. Appropriately sized turbos will be on boost from very low engine speeds (obviously not as low as a supercharger which is practically always on boost).

Good point....... turbo engine will also be more fuel efficient than a S/C or NA motor of the same power output. Which is something to consider in this day-in-age.

hy_boi
22-06-2006, 10:47 AM
Thanks guys, yeah just doin a comparo...do you's know where or who i can contact to get some rough figures off..(Qld)
scott

M4DDOG
22-06-2006, 11:06 AM
Was going to comment on the evo turbo being too small, or that I was amazed you'd found manifolds so cheap, but then I noticed you've got a 4cyl not a 6cyl lol.
Exactly, he has the 4 cylinder which i believe has alot of turbo parts available for it. To turbo the V6 it's VERY hard to find 2nd hand parts as not many people have done it, and there's no off the shelf parts available. Most of the work is custom which costs big $$$.

Matty_J
22-06-2006, 11:21 AM
Exactly, he has the 4 cylinder which i believe has alot of turbo parts available for it. To turbo the V6 it's VERY hard to find 2nd hand parts as not many people have done it, and there's no off the shelf parts available. Most of the work is custom which costs big $$$.


Exactly right mate!!! and thanks to narkus for helping me realise this :thumbsup:
as soon as i did some research on turbo charging my 2.4, the options were endless!!

Jim99THsports
22-06-2006, 12:49 PM
Isn't it a 2.6L astron?

choonga
22-06-2006, 01:18 PM
Isn't it a 2.6L astron?

nah.. not in the 3rd gen magna mate.. they came with a 2.4L

valaxy66
22-06-2006, 01:53 PM
your better off turbo charging a 4 then superchargering, you would benefit it from it better
as i think 4's tend to be more revy then a 6 packer, i think,

i reckon the only time you should supercharge is v8s an higher

vlad
22-06-2006, 03:28 PM
Don't forget that the Sprintex S/C comes with a 5 year warranty. A DIY turbo has no
warranty.

cthulhu
22-06-2006, 03:56 PM
your better off turbo charging a 4 then superchargering, you would benefit it from it better
as i think 4's tend to be more revy then a 6 packer, i think,

i reckon the only time you should supercharge is v8s an higher

Revability doesn't have much to do with the number of cylinders. It's got more to do with the ratio of bore to stroke. An engine with a stroke longer than the bore size (undersquare) will make more low down torque but won't cope as well at high speeds. Vice-versa for an oversquare engine where the bore size is larger than the stroke length.

Consider the V10 in the current BMW M5. It makes 373 kW @ 7750 RPM which is crazy fast for a V10. It gets away with integrity at that engine speed because while the bore size is 92mm the stroke length is only 75.2mm.

hy_boi
22-06-2006, 04:30 PM
your better off turbo charging a 4 then superchargering, you would benefit it from it better
as i think 4's tend to be more revy then a 6 packer, i think,

i reckon the only time you should supercharge is v8s an higher

Just to clear things up mine is the 3.5 v6.
BUt yeah looking at the pricing of the sprintex is up there..warranty wasn't five years though..half that i think and only 20,000k's

vlad
22-06-2006, 04:36 PM
Just to clear things up mine is the 3.5 v6.
BUt yeah looking at the pricing of the sprintex is up there..warranty wasn't five years though..half that i think and only 20,000k's

Last I heard it was 5 years matching Mitsubishi's 5 year warranty

hy_boi
22-06-2006, 04:53 PM
Just checked the site...its one year 20,000k's

DOG13S
22-06-2006, 05:05 PM
Last I heard it was 5 years matching Mitsubishi's 5 year warranty

This is on new vehicles only with original owner.

But I can vouch for the S/C, has made one hell of a difference to the VRX AWD. I don't think you will find anyone who has had it done complaining about the price, it is pure value for money.

If you want to know more about it then give them a call, the guys are more than happy to talk.