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KING EGO
23-06-2006, 04:55 PM
Yep as the Tittle says. Post Your Power..

There is to be no bullshiiting.. dont make it up or take your own wild guess.. It has to be able to be backed up, as in show us your Dyno sheet if asked..

Can we please post it in Kw ATW to keep it easy for people to understand. For those who dont know how to convert from HP-KW take the HP and divide it by 1.34...

Also a brief list of what car you have and Performance mods you have done. Not interested in what stereo or seat covers you have..

All The Breast
Jason:)


Ill go first..

2002 Manual VRX
Haltech Interceptor
136kw ATW

mysti
23-06-2006, 04:57 PM
1999 TH 3.5L Advance
111Kw ATW
Stock at the time.

TZABOY
23-06-2006, 05:00 PM
2000 Ralliart
Unichip
flowed TB
Custom Intake Manifold
Pacemaker headers
2½ staight through zorst with high tech muffler (no resinators)

160kw ATW's and a truckload of torque

to use the power i also have a short shifter, and solid engine mounts

Gazza
23-06-2006, 05:10 PM
TL VR
"Smokers" style CAI + pod
Mild port Throttle
171hp = 127kw @ FW

_stonesour_
23-06-2006, 05:24 PM
130 kws atws
TH sports manual

started off with 121 atws or something like that on the same dyno as stock

CAI
Flowed TB
Cat back zorst

mods to come b4 defect is cleared ( im serious this time i really really mean it LOL )
Ralliart cams
paceys
70mm tb ( its coming honest)

after dome these mods i would hope for all of 140atws ?i be happy with that

also a mate is looking into making me an inlet manifold but probably wont happen though

GoTRICE
23-06-2006, 05:27 PM
85kwatw's :upyours:
I'll have more tomorrow

cthulhu
23-06-2006, 06:37 PM
207kW ATW (http://www.wermspowke.net/images/dyno-hc.jpg)

Custom cams
Hi-comp pistons
Ported and shaved cylinder heads

edit: Same dyno recorded ~ 120kW ATW when stock.

Nemesis
23-06-2006, 06:52 PM
We've got a dynometer @ Tafe - so as soon as I can round up the teachers who know how to use it, I'll get the atw ratings.

Was very impressed today when I saw a 1988 VL Commodore (RB30E) put out 92kw ATW - very impressive considering it was auto and almost dead stock (pod filter) and those things are 114kw at the engine straight out of the factory.

Hopefully my Magna puts out about 110kw atw.

choonga
23-06-2006, 07:26 PM
103kw with a CAI and a leaking muffler! abahaha..

Rusty
23-06-2006, 07:36 PM
we could have a database of most powerful Cars on Aussiemagna

1st Gen
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

2nd Gen
1. Killbilly - TR DOHC 6G72 - 123 kW (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=535791&postcount=22)
2.
3.
4.
5.

3rd Gen
1. Mitsiman - TJ Magna - 341 kW (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=538742&postcount=44)
2. cthulhu - TJ Sports - 207 kW (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=535650&postcount=7)
3. Meh - TF Sports - 167 kW (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=536678&postcount=36)
4. Black Beard - TJ Exec - 141 kW (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=535764&postcount=17)
5. Disciple - TJ RalliArt - 139 kW (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=535768&postcount=18)

380
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

Other
1. Steevo - 1997 Camry Conquest - 123.9 kW (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=536378&postcount=34)
2.
3.
4.
5.

But you would HAVE to have a dyno sheet to back it up, doesn't qualify without a dyno sheet in your post your claiming in...

So yeah post your power, what sort of car it is, a dyno sheet and a little bit of info about your mods maybe...

Matthius
23-06-2006, 10:11 PM
As the sig says, 3.0l TF

162 fwhp(119kw) Figure from the Perth aussie magna dyno day at Hyperdrive.

Mods. Changed rear muffler to a 2.5" berklee hotdog
Removed plastic intake, went to ribbed 100mm trunking.

Matthius

BCX7
23-06-2006, 10:21 PM
55.5kw

carby auto

[TUFFTR]
23-06-2006, 10:21 PM
we could have a database of most powerful Magnas

1st Gen
1.
2.
3.

2nd Gen
1.
2.
3.

3rd Gen
1.
2.
3.

380
1.
2.
3.

Other
1.
2.
3.

But you would HAVE to have a dyno sheet to back it up, doesn't qualify without a dyno sheet in your post your claiming in...

So yeah post your power, what sort of car it is, a dyno sheet and a little bit of info about your mods maybe...

lol what would be under "other" :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Rusty
23-06-2006, 10:39 PM
']lol what would be under "other" :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

forum members that don't drive magnas, and your mum.

[TUFFTR]
23-06-2006, 10:42 PM
defeats the purpose of "we could have a database of most powerful Magnas"

;)

Rusty
23-06-2006, 10:46 PM
']defeats the purpose of "we could have a database of most powerful Magnas"


we could have a database of most powerful Cars on Aussiemagna

edited, ya sook :P

Black Beard
24-06-2006, 05:19 AM
141.0kW at the wheels dyno'd at 101 motorcafe in January of this year. Dyno sheet can be seen HERE (http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/356/dyno8zz.jpg).


Car:
05/03 build TJII Executive w/ 5spd manual

Mods at the time:
* extensive list of "bolt ons" (see profile for details)
* Greddy Emanage piggyback ECU

Disciple
24-06-2006, 06:01 AM
139kW ATW (http://www.ecn.net.au/~belated/dyno.jpg)

Car: 2002 Mitsubishi Ralliart, 5 Sp Manual

Mods: Pacemaker extractors with 2.5" press bent system with 3" metalcat high flow cat, split into duals behind fuel tank with 2 x 3" tips. EZBOY Podbox + POD & CAI.

Future: Needs to be tuned with a piggyback ECU. Should see 150+kW ATW with piggyback + tune.

mightymag
24-06-2006, 07:14 AM
120Kw At the front wheels

Car: 2002 TJII semi-auto Exec

Mods: RedBack muffler on stock piping, Re-tuned Ignition by Howell Automotive Removed CAI got more Grunt on stock air but with a larger mouth

Fut mods: None Fuel prices are getting to high just gonna buy a Ralliart or VRX:cool:

snu2
24-06-2006, 08:00 AM
3L Man
after cat exhaust (split at rear axle)
K&N Pannel
home made aggy pipe CAI

3.0L V6 Brigade
Meh - 158.5kw
Megatron - 126.6kw
Snu2 - 120.2kw
Redav - 119.5kw
DaBigMan - 114.9kw
Gotrice - 84.6kw

GO THE MIGHTLY 3L'S

Rusty
24-06-2006, 08:07 AM
I posted the two that have provided dyno sheets on the 1st page in the initial post i made, either ego can take it and put it in his post or i can start another htread or what ever...

Killbilly
24-06-2006, 08:28 AM
~123kW atw

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~monstr/dyno.jpg (Dunno why but the lines are in increments of 3.6 lol)

Mods:
DOHC 24v 6G72 conversion
Custom extractors
2.5" exhaust with lukey LR2779.

Still running stock factory computer from a 94 US Diamante (tuned to an auto). There's an absolute ton of potential.

Black Beard
24-06-2006, 09:06 AM
I posted the two that have provided dyno sheets on the 1st page in the initial post i made, either ego can take it and put it in his post or i can start another htread or what ever...

Edited my original post w/ link to copy of dyno sheet.

Ford fella
24-06-2006, 10:02 AM
we could have a database of most powerful Cars on Aussiemagna

1st Gen
1.
2.
3.

2nd Gen
1.
2.
3.

3rd Gen
1. cthulhu - TJ Sports - 207 kW (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=535650&postcount=7)
2. Disciple - TJ RalliArt - 139 kW (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=535768&postcount=18)
3.

380
1.
2.
3.

Other
1.
2.
3.

But you would HAVE to have a dyno sheet to back it up, doesn't qualify without a dyno sheet in your post your claiming in...

So yeah post your power, what sort of car it is, a dyno sheet and a little bit of info about your mods maybe...


one problem i see is forced vs n/a vs nos and 4cyl vs 3.0l vs 3.5l

Redav
24-06-2006, 03:48 PM
one problem i see is forced vs n/a vs nos and 4cyl vs 3.0l vs 3.5l
Agreed. Itemise each engine.

120kW here. 6G72-S4 engine

TheDifference
24-06-2006, 04:28 PM
**waits for mitsiman, jason's vrx, wooduck, & tooslow to post**

:D :D :redface:

Black Beard
24-06-2006, 04:42 PM
**waits for mitsiman, jason's vrx, wooduck, & tooslow to post**

:D :D :redface:

Never known the first two to quote "power at the wheels figures. I put the other two in the same category as Velocity; "Where are they now?"

Redav
24-06-2006, 04:47 PM
Never known the first two to quote "power at the wheels figures. I put the other two in the same category as Velocity; "Where are they now?"
Dave had over 400HP at the wheels (or hups, not sure) but I thought there was a figure of 470 at one stage. Jason had about 240kW at the wheels. Not sure what happened to the other two either.

hojo
24-06-2006, 04:56 PM
']lol what would be under "other" :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
other would be me! :D well, i havnt done a dyno run yet with the new car but its "claimed" to be 126kw (im assuming from the flywheel) so approx about 90kw atw? my old 2nd gen astron2 i reckon had about 65-75kw atw

SYPHER
24-06-2006, 05:08 PM
163 Hp ATW or 121.5Kw ATW as per last dyno day at UPE 2000 model TH Sports 5Spd Man. 3.5L Exhaust dumped a bit 18"s but have done some new induction mods will post them soon:cool:

Killbilly
24-06-2006, 05:10 PM
']lol what would be under "other" :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
I'd be other :P

Rusty
24-06-2006, 06:13 PM
updated, put killbilly under 2nd gen still but noted that it was a dohc...

TL MAGNA
24-06-2006, 07:08 PM
116.5kw 112kw before timing was moved

Steevo
25-06-2006, 01:30 PM
For the other category fellas :D

1997 Camry Conquest 3 litre 1MZ-FE, 5 Speeed manual
Mods: Sportivo rear muffler,K&N Panel Filter and Unichip tuned for PULP

123.9 Kw ATW

Steve

Billy Mason PI
25-06-2006, 01:42 PM
106kw - stock

Meh
25-06-2006, 11:37 PM
167kw
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/mehhh/Picture418.jpg

Mulga
26-06-2006, 12:09 AM
167kw
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/mehhh/Picture418.jpg

Does that include..err..laughing gas? :D

Meh
26-06-2006, 12:10 AM
Does that include..err..laughing gas? :D
yep it does

Bain
26-06-2006, 12:16 AM
I guess my car is in other.

191 rwkw

Stock

http://members.optusnet.com.au/miltonf/car/ford/xr6t/dyno/dynoprintout.jpg

TheDifference
26-06-2006, 01:56 AM
167kw
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/mehhh/Picture418.jpg

wow...... err,..... not the most linear of power deliveries......:cool:

Monga
26-06-2006, 07:30 PM
171fwhp but the only dyno avail is 165fwhp on the forums somewhere

208_Fireball
27-06-2006, 09:14 AM
97.8kW at wheels with 3.0 auto, only mod being a dodgy 2.25" exhaust. The 2.5" exhaust got me a better track time, so I would assume that this figure will be increased the next time it is dynoed.

Scroll down here: dynoresults.html (http://www.ostat.com/dave/dynoresults.html) to see the maggie's results (second from bottom.)

Cheers,

Dave

Rusty
29-06-2006, 08:09 AM
updated initial post, remember people...


But you would HAVE to have a dyno sheet to back it up, doesn't qualify without a dyno sheet in your post your claiming in....

Mitsiman
29-06-2006, 08:23 AM
Specifications on the car

http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=40

Dyno Sheet (One of many) of the car. I have some with higher horsepower figures on the hub dyno, and I do have somewhere just need to find it one from the Auto Tecnkina show which had 300kw at the wheels if I recall on only 12.5 psi boost. Best result I have ever had on a roller dyno before although it still smoked the tyres.

If you don't know what I mean by that just ask all teh AMC members who attended the dyno day and saw my car fry the tryes on the dyno and didn't get over 250hp at the wheels cause we couldn't hold it down.

http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=66&Itemid=39

Asylum
29-06-2006, 08:56 AM
stock TH auto with single muffler and pod filter - 100kw ATW

manual conversion, twin mufflers, pod filter and LSD - 127.7kw ATW!!!

Redav
29-06-2006, 09:31 AM
updated initial post, remember people...
This bunch of numbers won't need a dyno chart:



4 Cylinder Brigade
Ralliart Gal - 66.9kw
Mischef - 61.9kw
Stagma - 60.4kw
Alittlekidsbike - 59.3kw
Missy Majic - 54.0kw

3.0L V6 Brigade
Meh - 158.5kw
Megatron - 126.6kw
Snu2 - 120.2kw
Redav - 119.5kw
DaBigMan - 114.9kw
Gotrice - 84.6kw

3.5L V6 Brigade
Disciple - 138.7kw
Blackbeard - 129.3kw
RalliartRick - 127.6kw
Daz_v6si - 126.8kw
Sports - 126.0kw
Sooty - 123.0kw
Sypher - 120.1kw
Dark_Magician - 117.6kw
Shemmyboy - 113.4kw
Taraska - 112.1kw
Poiyte - 111.5kw

The Others (the dudes from Lost apparently)
TOLDU (VZ Monaro) - 231.9kw
ANM41 (S13 Turbo) - 211.5kw
Avan (R33 TUrbo) - 160.4kw
Jared (180 Turbo) - 160.3kw
Mercury Madness (XR6 Ute) - 153.0kw
R34 (GTT (i think) Turbo)) - 139.8kw
Buuster (Camry) - 109.7kw
Agent R31 (R31 Skyline) - 92.4kw
Wanged (BMW) - 88.4kw
Kuz (Proton GTI) - 81.3kw
Ian (MX5) - 65.2kw
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=476062&postcount=9

Black Beard
29-06-2006, 09:37 AM
Dyno Sheet (One of many) of the car. I have some with higher horsepower figures on the hub dyno, and I do have somewhere just need to find it one from the Auto Tecnkina show which had 300kw at the wheels if I recall on only 12.5 psi boost. Best result I have ever had on a roller dyno before although it still smoked the tyres.

If you don't know what I mean by that just ask all teh AMC members who attended the dyno day and saw my car fry the tryes on the dyno and didn't get over 250hp at the wheels cause we couldn't hold it down.



Can someone please explain to me why some cars can put down 400+ HP at the wheels on roller dynos without "smoking the tyres", but Dave's car can't put more than 250hp onto rollers?

It's something that has always intrigued me.

Disciple
29-06-2006, 09:42 AM
Can someone please explain to me why some cars can put down 400+ HP at the wheels on roller dynos without "smoking the tyres", but Dave's car can't put more than 250hp onto rollers?

It's something that has always intrigued me.
The dyno chart on the RPW website of Dave's car reads 458 HP ATW. Also BB man, at the dyno day your car did 129kW, then recently tuned it made 141kW is that right? (I realise dynos are different, different days temps etc) But is that the new figure you got when it was tuned at the place you're getting your turbo done? Same setup?

Redav
29-06-2006, 09:42 AM
Can someone please explain to me why some cars can put down 400+ HP at the wheels on roller dynos without "smoking the tyres", but Dave's car can't put more than 250hp onto rollers?

It's something that has always intrigued me.
Dunno (possibly torque coupled with wheel speed) but I remember Booya whinging that he experienced the same thing with his NA engine.

Rusty
29-06-2006, 09:43 AM
Updated 1st post, Dave was that 458HP on a wheel dyno or a hub dyno? Its unfair to put in a hubber when everyone else is wheels.

Redav, I fail to see why those figures don't need sheets. Post a sheet or i don't include it SIMPL AS THAT.

M4DDOG
29-06-2006, 09:44 AM
Can someone please explain to me why some cars can put down 400+ HP at the wheels on roller dynos without "smoking the tyres", but Dave's car can't put more than 250hp onto rollers?

It's something that has always intrigued me.
Would it have something to do with the FWD?
The front lifts up and momentarily loses traction on the dyno?
Maybe, i'm just guessing :P.

Disciple
29-06-2006, 09:45 AM
Updated 1st post, Dave was that 458HP on a wheel dyno or a hub dyno? Its unfair to put in a hubber when everyone else is wheels.

Redav, I fail to see why those figures don't need sheets. Post a sheet or i don't include it SIMPL AS THAT.
They don't need a sheet because they all were given a sheet on the day. But I agree, ALL figures need a sheet. Otherwise there's no proof (even if it DID happen)

cthulhu
29-06-2006, 09:47 AM
Can someone please explain to me why some cars can put down 400+ HP at the wheels on roller dynos without "smoking the tyres", but Dave's car can't put more than 250hp onto rollers?

It's something that has always intrigued me.

At a guess, it'd come down to one or more of three things..

1) tyre size and quality
2) how the car's been strapped down
3) amount of torque being produced

interestingly though my car recorded 277hp ATW on a roller dyno.

Black Beard
29-06-2006, 10:17 AM
Also BB man, at the dyno day your car did 129kW, then recently tuned it made 141kW is that right? (I realise dynos are different, different days temps etc) But is that the new figure you got when it was tuned at the place you're getting your turbo done? Same setup?

Same setup, same tune, both dyno dynamics Dynos. Dyno'd before the QMD Dyno day.

Yeah, "different Dyno, different day" :blah: , but at the end of the day they're just a tuning tool. I paid for the dyno time, I watched the car get strapped down, that's the number that came up on the screen and I've got the printout to prove it - so that's the number I'll pull out whenever people ask me how powerful my car was before I turbo'd it.

Disciple
29-06-2006, 10:23 AM
Same setup, same tune, both dyno dynamics Dynos. Dyno'd before the QMD Dyno day.

Yeah, "different Dyno, different day" :blah: , but at the end of the day they're just a tuning tool. I paid for the dyno time, I watched the car get strapped down, that's the number that came up on the screen and I've got the printout to prove it - so that's the number I'll pull out whenever people ask me how powerful my car was before I turbo'd it.
Yeah that's cool man. I was kinda getting at different tuners being able to get more power out of the same setup... I'm thinking of going to Bob Romano when I get my tune.

Redav
29-06-2006, 10:58 AM
Redav, I fail to see why those figures don't need sheets. Post a sheet or i don't include it SIMPL AS THAT.
Because they are legit (i.e. witnessed by more than40 people) and don't need a sheet to back them up as they are not individual claims. It's just that I'm sure possibly half of them might have gone missing by now. The same would go for any other official club dyno day.

It's up to you whether you want to include them or not, I couldn't care less as I'm not into these e-Penis 'IhaveanegoandIwannashowthewebwhatIcando'. Unless it's too much work for you

Bain
29-06-2006, 11:25 AM
At a guess, it'd come down to one or more of three things..

1) tyre size and quality
2) how the car's been strapped down
3) amount of torque being produced

interestingly though my car recorded 277hp ATW on a roller dyno.
All 3 are correct. But moreso number 2.

Mitsiman's sounds like it wasnt strapped down correctly or tight enough because ive personally seen 600rwkw Fords not smoke the tyres on dyno's..

Most dyno's are rated well over what Mitsiman's car makes so he should have got a proper read out.

Matthius
29-06-2006, 12:08 PM
The main reason Daves smoked at the W.A dyno day was it was a 2wd dyno which was setup for RWD cars, they had to reverse all the Magnas because there wasnt enough room to fit the cars on the same direction, which meant the straps were of limited use, for most magnas this didnt matter, but once daves got to about 3500 and started hitting good boost it just climbed out of the rollers and smoked badly.

Also, my claimed dyno figure was from the W.A dyno day, **** knows where my sheet is, might have it somewhere.

Matthius

Redav
29-06-2006, 12:36 PM
Also, my claimed dyno figure was from the W.A dyno day, **** knows where my sheet is, might have it somewhere.
:shock: *gasp* you won't have it included in the list. You'd better find that sheet quicksmart!!! :shock:

Disciple
29-06-2006, 12:43 PM
:shock: *gasp* you won't have it included in the list. You'd better find that sheet quicksmart!!! :shock:
Hmmm. Surely you can see that the guys reasoning for having the sheet is so people can click on a link when they read a certain persons power figure to maybe compare km/h, revs, see what the power band is like etc. It's not fair to have some with and some without. :nuts:

Rusty
29-06-2006, 12:45 PM
:shock: *gasp* you won't have it included in the list. You'd better find that sheet quicksmart!!! :shock:

I'm not going to put figures in the list that don't have sheets because if i do. People will start saying "yeah but my 1st gen pulled 400kW and once i get the canon it will be 450kW serious man it is i just can't find the sheet, but u posted xyzs figure without a sheet should you should post mine"

If you don't like it, don't post in the thread its just a list for abit of fun it's not effecting your existence...

Redav
29-06-2006, 01:45 PM
I'm not going to put figures in the list that don't have sheets because if i do. People will start saying "yeah but my 1st gen pulled 400kW and once i get the canon it will be 450kW serious man it is i just can't find the sheet, but u posted xyzs figure without a sheet should you should post mine"
Which is why if it's at an official event then there's lots of witnesses, the claims aren't open to dispute and the official figures (at least in QLD) are posted by an AM Rep. I dare say that we don't have lieing AM Reps around the country.

Bain
29-06-2006, 01:51 PM
dude seriously, **** off. I'm not going to put figures in the list that don't have sheets because if i do. People will start saying "yeah but my 1st gen pulled 400kW and once i get the canon it will be 450kW serious man it is i just can't find the sheet, but u posted xyzs figure without a sheet should you should post mine"

If you don't like it, don't post in the thread its just a list for abit of fun it's not effecting your existence...
I think its you who should calm down.

The figures posted by Redav are correct. Read and comprehend what he is saying.. Telling someone to **** off certainly doesnt pull you any brownie points..

Rusty
29-06-2006, 02:08 PM
I'm not aiming to win any brownie points, but I've edited my post none the less...

As previously stated, the sheets are also there so people can see kph, rpm, afr etc. If people want there figures in the list then they are welcome to post the sheet other wise I'm not going to add it, if the people really care if they are in the list (which i doubt) they will post a sheet.

Redav
29-06-2006, 02:27 PM
if the people really care if they are in the list (which i doubt) they will post a sheet.
That's a fair point

narkus2
29-06-2006, 03:04 PM
I dont have a sheet handy, but i thought id share this with you :)

According to my first and only dyno at a MOGWA dyno day, after full exhaust including extractors, cat, resonator, muffler etc, and CAI with fpr etc, i managed a huge whopping 60.44kwatw! Dyno was apparently reading wrong, because that means i lost power lol a FTO also got the same power as me.

Oh well, at least my claim to fame can be a 60kw atw car running in the 15 second bracket lol

Rusty
29-06-2006, 03:12 PM
Oh well, at least my claim to fame can be a 60kw atw car running in the 15 second bracket lol

Well that is impressive!

Redav
29-06-2006, 03:28 PM
Oh well, at least my claim to fame can be a 60kw atw car running in the 15 second bracket lol
Heh heh... I hear stickers do this too :bowrofl:

narkus2
29-06-2006, 03:37 PM
Heh heh... I hear stickers do this too :bowrofl:


Well I dont have any stickers. are you saying i need stickers? maybe stickers will make me faster!

Sports
29-06-2006, 03:45 PM
126kw on the QLD dyno day, dont have a scanner so no 'proof' apart from 40 people watching and the QLD reps posting up the figures :nuts:

GoTRICE
29-06-2006, 04:09 PM
Because they are legit (i.e. witnessed by more than40 people) and don't need a sheet to back them up as they are not individual claims. It's just that I'm sure possibly half of them might have gone missing by now. The same would go for any other official club dyno day.


Why are you lying?? i saw your call pull 55.6fwkw's


he he


Fwd's are definately to lose traction on a dyno once making abit more than 200kwatw; still to do with weight transfer... although the rollers are rolling cars like that exert enough force to shift the weight to the back cancelling out the weight on the engine sitting over the wheels.

fencer
29-06-2006, 05:44 PM
130 Kw ATW

Stock-as-a-rock Ralliart

Monga
29-06-2006, 09:19 PM
my GTR
http://www.clubmotavate.com/images/dynoooooo.JPG
if you can find a better dyno line than that tell me haha

my magna before the exhuast ill get the new one soon the tune isnt fun
http://www.prestigeweb.com.au/members/~clint/photos/mag8.JPG

tommo
30-06-2006, 09:28 AM
my GTR
http://www.clubmotavate.com/images/dynoooooo.JPG
if you can find a better dyno line than that tell me hahhttp://www.prestigeweb.com.au/members/~clint/photos/mag8.JPGFerrari 360 at Autosalon last year :D

Bain
30-06-2006, 10:16 AM
my GTR
http://www.clubmotavate.com/images/dynoooooo.JPG
if you can find a better dyno line than that tell me haha

Sure can..

http://members.optusnet.com.au/miltonf/car/mitsu/Stage_III_Done_small.jpg

cthulhu
30-06-2006, 11:29 AM
Sure can..

http://members.optusnet.com.au/miltonf/car/mitsu/Stage_III_Done_small.jpg

404kW ATW in an XR6-T.. surely its doors would have fallen off by now or something, right?

Very nice indeed. Whose car is that? There's a guy up here I know who just turbo charged his VY SV8 and only managed to screw 350kW ATW out of it, so 404 from a 4L 6 is respectable indeed.

Bain
30-06-2006, 11:45 AM
404kW ATW in an XR6-T.. surely its doors would have fallen off by now or something, right?

Very nice indeed. Whose car is that? There's a guy up here I know who just turbo charged his VY SV8 and only managed to screw 350kW ATW out of it, so 404 from a 4L 6 is respectable indeed.
xlnt6 - hes a melbourne guy.

Dont know if you have to be a member.. But all his mods are listed at the below link.

http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?act=Garage&CODE=12&CID=144

Look up SPIKO and BCL if youre interested.. BCL's car is producing a mere 600rwkw's - theres a thread stickied to the build up of his car. It is truly amazing...

Theres a BA XR8 pushing 450rwkw's from RedCliffe in QLD.

Jasons VRX
30-06-2006, 11:50 AM
404kW ATW in an XR6-T.. surely its doors would have fallen off by now or something, right?

Very nice indeed. Whose car is that? There's a guy up here I know who just turbo charged his VY SV8 and only managed to screw 350kW ATW out of it, so 404 from a 4L 6 is respectable indeed.

There is actually quite a few 400+kw@wheels XR6T/Typhoons lurking the streets now.

I must say the few mods my dad has done for minimal dollars to his to get 318kw@wheels (with more to come), makes ya see why they have become so popular and easy to mod.

cthulhu
30-06-2006, 11:51 AM
Dont know if you have to be a member..

You do :(

M4DDOG
30-06-2006, 11:59 AM
Sure can..

http://members.optusnet.com.au/miltonf/car/mitsu/Stage_III_Done_small.jpg
That thing just keeps pulling hard around the max power from 4000rpm :shock:.
What kind of a track time has he got?

Bain
30-06-2006, 12:06 PM
That thing just keeps pulling hard around the max power from 4000rpm :shock:.
What kind of a track time has he got?
Dunno, but it wouldnt be all that great.. maybe mid 11's as its a 6 speed manual.

404rwkw's on the auto's get you a 10.1

M4DDOG
30-06-2006, 12:15 PM
Dunno, but it wouldnt be all that great.. maybe mid 11's as its a 6 speed manual.

404rwkw's on the auto's get you a 10.1
mid 11? not that great? Beats my 16.3 :P.

Pete
30-06-2006, 12:19 PM
404kW ATW in an XR6-T.. surely its doors would have fallen off by now or something, right?

Very nice indeed. Whose car is that? There's a guy up here I know who just turbo charged his VY SV8 and only managed to screw 350kW ATW out of it, so 404 from a 4L 6 is respectable indeed.


do we know what boost it was running, is that the bottom graph in Bar. i just had a look on the LS1.com and they have a car pulling 381kws on 10psi and think it would be about 440kes on 12 psi
http://doughy.theddrzone.com/genttdynotorque.jpg

Bain
30-06-2006, 12:26 PM
mid 11? not that great? Beats my 16.3 :P.
Cars are in 2 different leagues Leigh..

12's are slow for XR6T's these days.. A simple edit on the auto's get you into mid 12's..

Anyhow, thats all im saying on this.. This threads gotten off track..


do we know what boost it was running, is that the bottom graph in Bar.

Yes i believe it is.

cthulhu
30-06-2006, 12:41 PM
do we know what boost it was running, is that the bottom graph in Bar.

No, that would be air/fuel ratio. This page (http://www.mainlineauto.com.au/products/emission/afr806/index.htm) has a good table for converting lambda to a ratio for different fuel types.

Pete
30-06-2006, 12:46 PM
No, that would be air/fuel ratio. This page (http://www.mainlineauto.com.au/products/emission/afr806/index.htm) has a good table for converting lambda to a ratio for different fuel types.

ah i see, yeah figured it may be a bit low for boost lol

Bain
30-06-2006, 01:08 PM
ah i see, yeah figured it may be a bit low for boost lol
1bar isnt low for boost on an xr6t :)

stock it runs 4 - 6 psi.. or about .4bar

But yeah, having looked at it again, i guess they would be making sure its within A/F tolerances..

M4DDOG
30-06-2006, 01:13 PM
Cars are in 2 different leagues Leigh..

12's are slow for XR6T's these days.. A simple edit on the auto's get you into mid 12's..
.
Hehe yeh i know, i was just jokingly highlighting the fact that i dont know anything about non-family cars except that XR6T's are faster ;).

BOosted' BOoya
05-07-2006, 12:36 PM
my GTR
http://www.clubmotavate.com/images/dynoooooo.JPG
if you can find a better dyno line than that tell me haha


done and done. this was my 266kw run.... got cliff?

near vertical - this is what made this car power so hard, and in some cases very dangeriously! lol

those not in the know - the red is the power - the black is the torque.

BOosted' BOoya
05-07-2006, 12:42 PM
overlayed imgae.

J-PaP
05-07-2006, 01:06 PM
say it once, say it a thousand times. dyno results arent compareable. so this thread is pointless...

MAGNA
05-07-2006, 01:50 PM
']say it once, say it a thousand times. dyno results arent compareable. so this thread is pointless...
Have you not heard of 'Shootout mode'?

Having said that, obviously by you saying it again, and again, have you considered that no one is listening to you?

Rusty
05-07-2006, 02:09 PM
booya, chuck up your 305kW sheet would be interested to see the curve on that...

J-PaP
05-07-2006, 03:06 PM
Have you not heard of 'Shootout mode'?

Having said that, obviously by you saying it again, and again, have you considered that no one is listening to you?

shoot out mode or any other kind of mode isnt compareable whatsoever. only all cars running on the exact same dyno is compareable. and im not the only person whos said it.

_stonesour_
05-07-2006, 03:11 PM
']shoot out mode or any other kind of mode isnt compareable whatsoever. only all cars running on the exact same dyno is compareable. and im not the only person whos said it.

i agree with WTCHME .... though i think dyno results are comparable if u give a 5 kw' buffer ( give or take) ..

but yeah if comparing exact figures its a bit hard when its on different dyno's different days etc .. thats why ive had all my dyno's on the same dyno... makes it much MUCH more comparable

Clarion Magna
05-07-2006, 03:13 PM
']shoot out mode or any other kind of mode isnt compareable whatsoever. only all cars running on the exact same dyno is compareable. and im not the only person whos said it.

exactly!!!

Gimmie a 1/4 time then we will talk about power/mods etc

J-PaP
05-07-2006, 03:24 PM
i know of people who have had a 20kw difference between two dynos and its been consistant when theyve gone to both again. i've had up to a 8kw difference in my experience running on different dynos. and a 2kw difference running on the exact same dyno on different days.

Really having a dyno printout is just to compare how much power you have gained from your last printout. Not to compare with others from different dynos.

definately would agree a quater mile time is a lot more accurate.

GoTRICE
05-07-2006, 03:28 PM
:stoopid: like said they are relitively accurate and you can see some differences through some mods... but yeah im a fan of the 1/4 mile i major error factor there... the driver

Black Beard
05-07-2006, 03:33 PM
:stoopid: like said they are relitively accurate and you can see some differences through some mods... but yeah im a fan of the 1/4 mile i major error factor there... the driver

Yeah - gotta agree with that point. I consider 1/4 mile times a better indication of driver skill than engine output.

1/4 mile trap speed, maybe - but not ET. As for the comment of "this thread is pointless" - 90 odd posts before that comment was made makes me think it's actually a topic lots of people are interested in........... I don't remember anyone stating that they took the figures seriously.

Rusty
05-07-2006, 03:35 PM
exactly!!!

Gimmie a 1/4 time then we will talk about power/mods etc

nah **** that its all about circuit times...

People can have pissing contests till the cows come home, at the end of the day it’s just a bit of fun its not meant to be the be end and end all of life. Thus I will add the following disclaimer:

Do NOT use the dyno results contained within this thread to; make choices about the purchasing of cars and/or car modifications, brag about the size of your appendages, use the results to form a base for the naming of your children, make choices about your sexual health, mix ****tails, prepare chicken and other poultry based products.

Better ladies?

Ulciscor
05-07-2006, 04:06 PM
can a forum mod with nothing to do please go through this thread and delete every post that isnt wat is asked for by Sir Ego. including mine once its done, this thread is getting seriously off topic.

BOosted' BOoya
05-07-2006, 06:18 PM
its a indicition where cars power are at.

not a comparisation.


:doubt:

dont be so anal about it john. everyone knows unless same dyno, same day same everthing things are not going to be comparitive, however, its a good idication of where you are at.

/end *****.

_stonesour_
05-07-2006, 06:37 PM
and thats the bottom line cos booya said so :P

Disciple
05-07-2006, 08:12 PM
What Booya said. It's a comparison. It's not gospel and no one has ever claimed it to be. I'd rather say "my car put out 500kW on the dyno the other day" than "man I ran a fully hektik skyline and kicked its butt off the lights uleh, he said it had 700HP!!! so I must have like 900 bro!!"

It's a simple comparison and it's interesting to see different peoples sheets, power curves etc.

Big Daz
05-07-2006, 09:22 PM
TL VR Manual - K& N Panel only

170HP at the wheels (OK, so 169.9.... close enuff...lol) = 126.8 kw at the wheels.

Ive got a dyno sheet, but not on the computer... Though most of QMD witnessed it...

As for Qtr mile... Bout 14.9? Dont think its to much to ask..... lol

Daz

J-PaP
06-07-2006, 01:47 AM
its a indicition where cars power are at.

not a comparisation.


:doubt:

dont be so anal about it john. everyone knows unless same dyno, same day same everthing things are not going to be comparitive, however, its a good idication of where you are at.

/end *****.

id guarentie u 90% of this forum are looking through each of the posts with figures and saying to themselves that this car is making more power than that.

if you wanted to indicate where a cars power is at then shouldnt people be saying "my car made this much power atw standard and then 6 months later at the same dyno with all these mods it made this much power"

a lot of people take dynos as gospel.. just making it clear that they r wrong to

disciple - booya said its not a comparison lol

anyhow to answer the thread - ive gained 70kw at the wheels from standard to now.. too many mods to list.

TheDifference
06-07-2006, 02:02 AM
ok....

i was resisting the urge to wade into this again..... buuuuuuut

this has all been covered before with no real resolution.....
i cbf typing everyting again, so im just gonna be lazy.

you can read from the start of the thread, but the most relevant parts are from page 10 onwards....
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34961&page=10

Just some excerpts of my previous arguments:

a dyno gives you the ability to gauge the approximate power that a car is putting out, but it depends on the variables that are plugged into it. readouts shouldnt be taken as gospel, cos then you're just fooling yourself. also, think about how many different brands, and different types of dyno's...... you think none of them differ at all from each other?

the only way to accurately gauge who has the most power (for comparisons sake), would be for everyone to run their cars on the same dyno, on the same day, with the same settings. then that way everyone is conforming to the same variables

dyno figures cannot be taken as gospel because it is so easy to fiddle with settings to get different results.

hence statements similar to (for example): "Mr X (who used dyno A) got 180kw but Mr Y (who used dyno B) got 210kw, so clearly Mr Y has the more powerful car!" - are not correct as it depends on previously mentioned variables and setting on the individual dyno.

KING EGO
06-07-2006, 07:04 AM
can a forum mod with nothing to do please go through this thread and delete every post that isnt wat is asked for by Sir Ego. including mine once its done, this thread is getting seriously off topic.


Cheers..:)


its a indicition where cars power are at.

not a comparisation.

dont be so anal about it john. everyone knows unless same dyno, same day same everthing things are not going to be comparitive, however, its a good idication of where you are at.


Smartest thing ive ever heard from you ben.. Maybe you are growing up..:P

All im after was a indications to see what people had.. And sheets was to shut those idiots up who are gunna make things up.. At the end of the day i dont care what power you get out of a XR6T.. we are a magna forum..:confused:

Rusty
06-07-2006, 09:27 AM
gawd guys build a bridge and get over it. Its just a bit of fun refer to my disclaimer as previously posted


Do NOT use the dyno results contained within this thread to; make choices about the purchasing of cars and/or car modifications, brag about the size of your appendages, use the results to form a base for the naming of your children, make choices about your sexual health, mix ****tails, prepare chicken and other poultry based products.


Honestly keyboard warriors get over it.

magnanamouse
08-07-2006, 08:49 AM
100Kw atw!! need more!!!!

The_Monk
08-07-2006, 10:20 AM
Must...find...previous...owner...

I was told my VN was dyno'd at 113kw atw.

Mods:
Reground cam
Ported and polished
Gutted cat (nuffin sus)

Sports
14-07-2006, 06:50 PM
http://www.mitsubishiclubaustralia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6732#6732

132.6kw

Killbilly
14-07-2006, 09:26 PM
Dynos are tuning tools, Not masturbation tools...Can we leave the debate at the door please?

TheDifference
14-07-2006, 09:47 PM
Dynos are tuning tools, Not masturbation tools...Can we leave the debate at the door please?

rofl!!!! I'll have to remember that one pauley!!

mouse321
03-10-2006, 04:39 PM
98 KF Verada - 127.6 kw atw (with 4 speed auto slush box)
mods - pacemakers, high flow cat, lukey muffer, mandrel bent 2.5" stainless
high flowed TB and a UNI chip

just installed rpw manifold and fuel reg need retune now

mouse321
03-10-2006, 08:13 PM
oh yeah CAI too

[TUFFTR]
03-10-2006, 08:17 PM
100Kw atw!! need more!!!!

If your getting that from a rebuilt 2.6 auto, id be very keen to see what mine does once the top end is rebuilt on my car in about a week.

Tim-E
03-10-2006, 08:21 PM
My car has enough-for-a-low-15-second-quarter-mile kW's :P

When dyno's are free, I'll let you know :)

Fuzzlet
03-10-2006, 09:42 PM
Better put this in "other". Mazda BP 1.8 engine. Exhaust, CAI, and timing fiddled with gave 73.6kw at the wheels. The car was dropped at mechanics this arvo, for 'certain' work to be done, so when I get it back in about a month we're hoping for about 130 at the wheels....shall keep you posted

TecoDaN
03-10-2006, 09:50 PM
geebuz Pete, what are you up to with that toy of yours?

Black Beard
04-10-2006, 03:17 AM
Well since this thread has been resurrected, updated power at the wheels is in my sig.

dankrause
04-10-2006, 07:11 AM
Stock TJ VR-X Tippy
119kw at wheels on Graham West dyno.

Phonic
04-10-2006, 07:45 AM
My old auto TF put out 110kW ATW with 2.5" catback, K&N Panel and Unichip.

Still yet to dyno the manual TF, but with same mods I'm excpecting upto about 120, time wil tell. :P

Poita
04-10-2006, 09:05 AM
Dead stock 3.5 TH Sports got 115kw at the front wheels on the Graham West dyno at the AMC dyno day.

Fuzzlet
04-10-2006, 10:05 AM
geebuz Pete, what are you up to with that toy of yours?
Getting the turbo put in. Garrett GT28R, MX-5 SP manifold and dump pipe, generic IC from Just Jap, Turbosmart EBoost, Wolf 3D ECU....Trips up the old pac highway will be even more fun :D