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magnarama
01-07-2006, 03:32 PM
I'm upgrading my magna's look with a new bonnet, bumper and hopefully new rear end (boot and tail-lights)

I've read that it will work but haven't found any pics,

Anyone done this got pics (before -> after)

wanna make sure it'll work 100% before i spend money and it not work :P

Sorry i know its kinda a repeat but I'm a bit cautious about this one and want my magna to look hot :)

Sharkie
01-07-2006, 03:44 PM
i think the TL front is a bit longer

Sideswipe
01-07-2006, 03:48 PM
Congrats on being the first person in the world to actually want their older Magna to look like a TL.

YLD35L
01-07-2006, 04:01 PM
TL front wont fit radiator support is completly differrent goes
back about 12" more at the head lights. TJ will though. Boot bar
and taillights will fit though. Have to change the taillight wiring
the plugs are different. Boot lock is different where you put in key
its shorter other than that its all good

magnarama
01-07-2006, 07:29 PM
Congrats on being the first person in the world to actually want their older Magna to look like a TL.

Thanks :P never would have thought I woulda been the first for anything :P

Will go with TJ look then

skotlar
24-10-2006, 06:06 PM
I'm upgrading my magna's look with a new bonnet, bumper and hopefully new rear end (boot and tail-lights)

I've read that it will work but haven't found any pics,

Anyone done this got pics (before -> after)

wanna make sure it'll work 100% before i spend money and it not work :P

Sorry i know its kinda a repeat but I'm a bit cautious about this one and want my magna to look hot :)

*Just wondering, if you have completed this as yet magnarama and how it went? - I am looking at doing the same to my TH also.*

piv
24-10-2006, 06:17 PM
Seems that the TL front isn't possible or worthwhile, but the back is a pretty common and straight forward thing to do.

M4DDOG
24-10-2006, 06:48 PM
Back = no probs, front = pretty much impossible, as the headlights come back into the panels. You would have to totally change out all the fronts panels at least.

KING EGO
24-10-2006, 07:29 PM
TL front wont fit radiator support is completly differrent goes
back about 12" more at the head lights. TJ will though. Boot bar
and taillights will fit though. Have to change the taillight wiring
the plugs are different. Boot lock is different where you put in key
its shorter other than that its all good


Doesnt mean it cant be done..:P

Remeber Mcbeths car.. started its life as a TJ.. :shock:

Good luck to ya buddy.. Dont listen to all these people.. if ya wanna do it you will, best option would prob be find a front cut, will make life so much easier..:)
http://www.mysti.org/albums/EGOPICS/Mcbeth.jpg

Matthius
24-10-2006, 07:44 PM
Hehe IMO going from a TH to a TL is more like "weathering" your car to achieve the old and saggy look ;) unless you get bunbury motorsports facelift, so then you can get a facelift twice and have your eyes near your ears :bowrofl:

Matthius

Edit: Oop, didn't realise it was an old post originally, scuse the spam.

SolaraKid
24-10-2006, 07:50 PM
Doesnt mean it cant be done..:P

Remeber Mcbeths car.. started its life as a TJ.. :shock:

Good luck to ya buddy.. Dont listen to all these people.. if ya wanna do it you will, best option would prob be find a front cut, will make life so much easier..:)
http://www.mysti.org/albums/EGOPICS/Mcbeth.jpg
beat ya he just wanted to a nice audio system and jsut lost control....

Do it for a challenge...come on do it

heathyoung
25-10-2006, 10:50 AM
I'll have to admit that the smiley asian face magna look is starting to grow on me...

That and the fact that the headlights are halfway decent standard (not like the adequate exec headlamps and the far less than adequate parabolics), you can run a CAI so much easier as well, and it kinda brings the car into a newer agegroup...

I don't like the 380's look at the moment, maybe it will start to grow on me too... hmmm.....

You would probably have to change a lot of panels to do it though - the front guards would need to be swapped - radiator suport, rear guards, boot, front bumper, headlamps, rear bumper etc etc.

Not a cheap proposition though, especially at mitsu parts prices :doubt:

Cheers
Heath Young

M4DDOG
25-10-2006, 10:56 AM
Zactly, would probably be cheaper to just sell your TH and buy a TL.

NORBY
25-10-2006, 12:37 PM
Zactly, would probably be cheaper to just sell your TH and buy a TL.


its also cheaper to buy wrx than make a magna as fast as a wrx :P

M4DDOG
25-10-2006, 01:07 PM
its also cheaper to buy wrx than make a magna as fast as a wrx :P
WRX isn't THAT fast, Ralliart magna would be pretty close to matching it in a sprint.

magnarama
03-05-2007, 09:05 AM
Doesnt mean it cant be done..

Remeber Mcbeths car.. started its life as a TJ.. :shock:

Good luck to ya buddy.. Dont listen to all these people.. if ya wanna do it you will, best option would prob be find a front cut, will make life so much easier..:)
http://www.mysti.org/albums/EGOPICS/Mcbeth.jpg

Ok so it can be done, but after seeing mcbeths car, I think I might pass on the TL haha

Will upgrade it all to TJ

still working on it at the moment but haven't got the parts as yet...

Lots of work involved including re-alligning my current front end to make it sit right (some people can't allign bonnets very well lol)

Also the other thing holding me back is my unique colour due to its accident, was resprayed... and its not the standard magna colour :rant:


Will keep you posted once I get into it

VR33XY
03-05-2007, 10:30 AM
WRX isn't THAT fast

Errm, yeah. Factory it eats any magna, and it costs one hell of alot less to make it go faster.

M4DDOG
03-05-2007, 10:40 AM
Errm, yeah. Factory it eats any magna, and it costs one hell of alot less to make it go faster.
A stock WRX (i'm not talking about the sti race spec version or whatever it is :P) wouldn't be much quicker if at all (maybe even slower) than a ralliart magna in a straight line sprint.

VR33XY
03-05-2007, 10:59 AM
A stock WRX (i'm not talking about the sti race spec version or whatever it is :P) wouldn't be much quicker if at all (maybe even slower) than a ralliart magna in a straight line sprint.

Afraid so mate. Cant beat a spooled turbo with awd jumping off the line :) And i'm saying this because I used to own one.

choonga
03-05-2007, 11:09 AM
Afraid so mate. Cant beat a spooled turbo with awd jumping off the line :) And i'm saying this because I used to own one.
Unfortunately i'm going to have to agree with M4DDOG.. a standard WRX really isn't THAT quick in a straight line. I'd say only just a bit quicker than ANY 3.5 manual...

Like you say... if the driver launches the wrx right it'll get ahead then.. but from there on the wrx won't pull any further away from the magna.

VR33XY
03-05-2007, 11:16 AM
Remeber Mcbeths car.. started its life as a TJ.. :shock:

Wow, you learn something everyday.

Ashneel
03-05-2007, 11:21 AM
Remeber Mcbeths car.. started its life as a TJ.. :shock:

actually it started of as a TH :P

got a pic of it when it was down to bare metal with only the interior half done, bags, rims and 2 door at autosalon 02 or 03 i think

if i can find it ill post it up

will3690
03-05-2007, 11:30 AM
To add onto the quarrel about The Imprezza WRX and Ralliart MAgna, the WRX is quicker overall.

Are you sure you guys are not talking about the standard Imprezza???

choonga
03-05-2007, 11:41 AM
quoted from Autospeed...
Subaru Australia quote the 0 - 100 km/h sprint takes the 5-speed manual just 6.2 seconds but, in the real world, it's not that quick unless you're prepared to be absolutely brutal on take-off (and who ever is in their own car?)
That is absolutely true. There are people on the WRX forums doing close to a 14flat in their stock wrx's.. but thats with a nice big clutch dump at like 5200rpm. Where as others who are not as game to give it such a beating are doing mid to high 14's. Just about the same area as a manual 3.5L magna.

M4DDOG
03-05-2007, 01:38 PM
quoted from Autospeed...

That is absolutely true. There are people on the WRX forums doing close to a 14flat in their stock wrx's.. but thats with a nice big clutch dump at like 5200rpm. Where as others who are not as game to give it such a beating are doing mid to high 14's. Just about the same area as a manual 3.5L magna.
Well said mate :).

Compare the STi to a magna and it's a different story, but i'd say the majority of turbo imprezzas out there would be just the WRX and not the STi version (which is basically a race car).

Zen
03-05-2007, 03:18 PM
Its a moot point realy... it may be cheaper to make a wrx quicker... ubt then you go pay 5k on a starion pour 1k into the engine and bye bye wrx... or a cordia or an older GSR.

DVS
03-05-2007, 04:20 PM
I started changing my TH rear to a KL, I have a KL boot lid, chased up a wiring loom for the reverse lights and number plate lights, tested the loom. only need to splice one wire to make the reverse lights work, then it all went to crap, I was having so much trouble getting the wiring looms for the tail lights, I've put it on hold for now, but I'll start looking for some KL rear lights again soon, with looms of course, also anyone considering this swap, the release for the boot is different as it has 2 cables one to the electronic release and one to the ski hole. also the KL/TL bumpers are different.

TFBoy
03-05-2007, 04:50 PM
haha, ive just realised how much we spam.....from TH to TL look ------> ralliarts beating wrx's :bowrofl: :bowrofl:


i would recommended a simply TJ change....TL is too complicated and doesnt look that nice, might be cheaper to just change over if you like it that much

mrbsh1
03-05-2007, 06:08 PM
well if you want to sell and get a TL you know who to call, ( no not the ghost busters ) drop me a PM if interested, otherwise, i have always liked the look of teh TH over the TJ. My opinion