i finally blew up my first set of speakers, was going through the hills last night had the music going flat chat then my mates in the back started yelling (not from the alcohol lol) and i noticed alot of smoke coming from my 6X9's and them not working. was only giving them 184WRMS didn't think that would happen only 3and a bit months old

i finally blew up my first set of speakers, was going through the hills last night had the music going flat chat then my mates in the back started yelling (not from the alcohol lol) and i noticed alot of smoke coming from my 6X9's and them not working. was only giving them 184WRMS didn't think that would happen only 3and a bit months old

Dude 184 watts RMS is kinda a lot..


Kids..:nuts: they dont make them like they used too..:P

Dude 184 watts RMS is kinda a lot..


Kids..:nuts: they dont make them like they used too..:P
hmmm maybe it is but the speakers were 150WRMS for memory pioneer ones i was still a little disappointed.
just thinking about it i have my 2 front and 2 rear speakers running off the front channel on my amp so 184WRMS to 4 speakers and my 2 fronts are the 10watt stock 4inch ones and they were ok how does that work???:doubt:

i dont know.. but 184watts rms is a lot of power.. I dont think it was the power that killed them.. 184 watts down to channels didnt do it..:confused:

i dont know.. but 184watts rms is a lot of power.. I dont think it was the power that killed them.. 184 watts down to channels didnt do it..:confused:

Ditto..

If you were running you're front channel to 4 speakers what 'ohmage' (I think its resonance) did you run them at..?

Please tell me something like 1 ohm.. It would make me sleep so much better.. I'd be laughing so hard..

We did that ran a cheapo Strathfield amp at 2ohm.. w00t! Lasted about 5/6months then starting going into protection all the time.. LOL! Ahh the joys of learning about Car Audio!

SuFz :rant:

all i know is it is a 300WRMS jensen amp i am running it as a 2 channel, 1 channel to my sub the other to my other 4 speakers i am not an expert at car audio but i do know that i never really run anything too hard cos i have already gone threw subs and amps.

1 channel to my sub the other to my other 4 speakers

running 4 speakers off 1 channel sounds a bit dodgy hahah. u probably were giving your amp a 1 ohm load.

all i know is it is a 300WRMS jensen amp i am running it as a 2 channel, 1 channel to my sub the other to my other 4 speakers i am not an expert at car audio but i do know that i never really run anything too hard cos i have already gone threw subs and amps.
Obviously you dont really know what you are doing, and you have said you have blown up stuff previously. Most people learn their lesson from that and realise you cant just guess how to wire things up (i learnt this the hard way too).

And yeh, 4 speakers running off 1 channel does sound dodge. Why arent u running your stock fronts just off the H/U? Are you sure the amp isnt a 4 channel? with 2 channels bridged running the sub? That would make a lot more sense.

all i know is it is a 300WRMS jensen amp i am running it as a 2 channel, 1 channel to my sub the other to my other 4 speakers i am not an expert at car audio but i do know that i never really run anything too hard cos i have already gone threw subs and amps.
lol hahaha.
150wrms pioneers? How much did you pay for them? I dont think the pro series are even 150wrms. They're probably 150w MAX, which means putting 184wrms (dunno wtf you got that figure from, but lets say you did) would totally destroy them.

normally if you have upgraded your sterio you would upgrade as much as possible.. and normally you would run your fronts off the H/U not an amp unless they are splits or they really need to be amped again.. and yea it wouldn't of been 184wRMS it would of been either 184wMAX or 150wMAX..but i don't think that pioneer make 184w speakers? ill check in with that..are you sure it has been wired up propperly??

cheers mate


"I install car sterios"

i'd say his speakers are 150w max, and his amp is 2 x 150w rms. So sub is getting 150w rms(well in theory, depending on gain/volume etc.) and the other 4 speakers getting 150wrms between them.
Now i'm not 100% sure when it comes to amps, but doesn't this put a massive load on them? Also some amps GAIN power when used at a lower ohm. So let's just say for example that all 4 were infact getting 184wrms. That's 46wrms per speaker. Now the fronts (if still stock) are probably already blown, you just dont realise because they are cork/cardboard and probably just dont work. The rears being a 150w max pioneer speaker will have an rms around 20-30. So he would have to put his gain on full (most likely as he has no idea what he's doing) and so he's putting alot of power through the rears. Now if the fronts are blown, does that mean the rears will get 92wrms each? If so, with full gain, at 1/3 volume on your headunit, say GOOD BYE speakers.

yes thats right the front speakers will no longer be drawing power from the amp..so the 6"x9"s will be copping it big time .. but still it is silly to run stockies off the amp

cheers

yes thats right the front speakers will no longer be drawing power from the amp..so the 6"x9"s will be copping it big time .. but still it is silly to run stockies off the amp

cheers
It's silly to run the stock 4" off an after market hu as well. I blew mine up doing that when i was an audio newb. Turns out they're only 5wrms 15w max lol.

Kids..:nuts: they dont make them like they used too..:PHow are they making them nowadays? The old way was pretty fun!:D

ok correction the rears are 300watt max, the amp is a 4 channel i am running bridged as 2 channel, the reason i run my front speakers through the amp is to eliminate bass through the front speakers ( i can't stand fronts distorting ) the gain on the amp is very low for the fronts the sub however is 600WRMS (very underpowered i know) on my front channel its all treble no bass. i have blown up a 500watt max 10inch boss sub and a 1000watt 4channel boss amp

ok correction the rears are 300watt max, the amp is a 4 channel i am running bridged as 2 channel, the reason i run my front speakers through the amp is to eliminate bass through the front speakers ( i can't stand fronts distorting ) the gain on the amp is very low for the fronts the sub however is 600WRMS (very underpowered i know) on my front channel its all treble no bass. i have blown up a 500watt max 10inch boss sub and a 1000watt 4channel boss amp
Ok so your rears are 300w max, how many wrms and w max is your jenson amp PER CHANNEL?

Ok so your rears are 300w max, how many wrms and w max is your jenson amp PER CHANNEL?

the amp is a 2,3 and 4 channel one it adjusts by a switch atm i have it running at 2channel and the manual says that is 184WRMS per channel i don't know wat is is maxx besides that does'nt mean sh!t to me WRMS is wat matters

My guess is you ****ed up running all 4 speakers off one bridged channel. Your essentially wiring four 4ohm loads in parallel, creating an equivalent 1ohm load. The amp is designed by the sound of it to run 2x @ 4ohm or 4x @ 4ohm. With that smaller resistance, some sort of current issue would have arisen.

the amp is a 2,3 and 4 channel one it adjusts by a switch atm i have it running at 2channel and the manual says that is 184WRMS per channel i don't know wat is is maxx besides that does'nt mean sh!t to me WRMS is wat matters
Ok then that's why your 6x9's have blown, you were putting too much juice into them.

I would say they blew as you did not have a highpass filter set up on them and you were feeding them too much dirty power

They are not Subwoofers. They are just normal 6x9's. You need them highpassed at least around 60 hertz. To keep the sub frequencies away from them.

If they blew up then it means you were driving around like a twit listening to distorted music = bad.

Buy a sub.

I would say they blew as you did not have a highpass filter set up on them and you were feeding them too much dirty power

They are not Subwoofers. They are just normal 6x9's. You need them highpassed at least around 60 hertz. To keep the sub frequencies away from them.

If they blew up then it means you were driving around like a twit listening to distorted music = bad.

Buy a sub.
yeah i do have a sub if u read above more, and the reason i run the 4 speakers through the front channel amp is to eliminate bass (which works)

thanks heaps for ur help guys its appreciated

i think we're talking something like this amp:
http://www.bizrate.com/caramplifiers/pid11631211/information.html

4x85WRMS, 2x184W bridged

and yes, it has an onboard HPF

i think we're talking something like this amp:
http://www.bizrate.com/caramplifiers/pid11631211/information.html

4x85WRMS, 2x184W bridged

and yes, it has an onboard HPF
Ah yes,
Well with that amount of power going through your pioneer 6x9's no wonder they blew up. They could probably handle 40wrms MAX.

i think we're talking something like this amp:
http://www.bizrate.com/caramplifiers/pid11631211/information.html

4x85WRMS, 2x184W bridged

and yes, it has an onboard HPF

If u look at that link it sayd minimum impedence when bridged is 4 ohms. This guy had 4 speakers running off one channel. now i doubt very much he would have had all these speakers wired in series, so most probably had them in parrallel. Speakers usually 4 ohms each so this would be presenting his amp a 1 ohm load. If the amp didnt blow first maybe this is the reason the speakers blew.

4 speakers off one channel is not a good idea mate, get someone else to install your next system.

I'm curious how you wired it???? Did you run all four speakers off all of the 4 channels of the amp and then bridge the two rear channels for the sub which is what I was told is tri mode??? Cause if that's the case your sub would of either been getting low and high frequencies at the same time which is full range, (which it doesn't like) or a simular comment like one of the other members said, your sub was getting the low frequencies and so was your 6x9's?? :shock:

Ah yes,
Well with that amount of power going through your pioneer 6x9's no wonder they blew up. They could probably handle 40wrms MAX.

he said the pioneers were 300WMAX, which is about 80WRMS? its usually around the 1/3rd of MAX which gives the RMS......although i'd like to get an exact speaker number so we dont keep guessing the rated power..

']he said the pioneers were 300WMAX, which is about 80WRMS? its usually around the 1/3rd of MAX which gives the RMS......although i'd like to get an exact speaker number so we dont keep guessing the rated power..
Well the PRO series of pioneer 6x9's have an rms of 80wrms, so i'm guessing that his would be less. 1/3 max isn't what gives RMS. RMS is just the average output. It depends on how cheap his pioneers were and how old, i cant find 300w pioneers in the current catalogue.