Hey guys, a quick question, i'm think of getting some rims later on, i don't know when but i will be puting rims on my new car, i was ganna lower before i put rims on , is it better to get rims then lower it , or what, because otherwise i'll be wasting my money , and whats the best for lowering , like so don't get caught by the cops.

Hey guys, a quick question, i'm think of getting some rims later on, i don't know when but i will be puting rims on my new car, i was ganna lower before i put rims on , is it better to get rims then lower it , or what, because otherwise i'll be wasting my money , and whats the best for lowering , like so don't get caught by the cops.

doesnt make too much difference if you lower before or after.. Of course looks wise it would be better to have it lowered before you put the rims on..

In terms of legalities, in NSW there is a a rule that the lowest point under your car must be atleast 100mm off the ground. A popular spring combination is the king springs superlows (front) and lows (rear) which will leave your car above this limit, and still look pretty good with minimal scraping issues..

You could go lows all round, or get the rears compressed further with superlows.. it all depends on how low you want to go..

Yeh as said above it doesnt really matter which u get first just make sure you have the money to get both done, if you already have some rims lined up get them and then buy the springs, then take them to wherever your getting it done and get em both on the same day!!! springs, rims, tyres & labour should only cost u about 1k all up maybe less if u do some searching!! GL and look forward to the pics!! :D

doesnt make too much difference if you lower before or after.. Of course looks wise it would be better to have it lowered before you put the rims on..

In terms of legalities, in NSW there is a a rule that the lowest point under your car must be atleast 10mm off the ground. A popular spring combination is the king springs superlows (front) and lows (rear) which will leave your car above this limit, and still look pretty good with minimal scraping issues..

You could go lows all round, or get the rears compressed further with superlows.. it all depends on how low you want to go..

100mm off the Ground, which would be 10cm.

100mm off the Ground, which would be 10cm.

typo sorry.. now shoosh :P hehe

yeah i think Vic laws are the same as NSW laws....

try the vic roads website....there is a PDF download on vehicle mods n stuff....that mite help you :)

In terms of legalities, in NSW there is a a rule that the lowest point under your car must be atleast 100mm off the ground.

Part correct.

100mm off the ground with a laden car. This means driver and passengers.

ok...this is what i dont understand...

what if:

..you get pulled over and you are the only one in the car?
..you are travelling with "skinny" people?
..you are travelling with "fat" people?

can someone tell me how to lower your car legally?

Part correct.

100mm off the ground with a laden car. This means driver and passengers.

Yeah and if you want an easy way to tell,

The white Alco tube (what you blow into at a police rbt) is 100mm.

I believe this 100mm rule is a misconception, more of a guideline and that the rules simply are:

No part of the car may touch the road under full suspention tavel.
No part of the wheel may foul any of the body or internals of the wheel arch under full suspension travel and steering.

Ground clearance isn't an issue really with ROCK HARD suspension you could be 2mm off the road with springs/shocks that WONT give. Of course it would be a highly uncomfortable ride :P

As per NSW RTA VSI06:
"Suspension
Besides assuring a comfortable ride, a vehicle’s suspension system controls wheel movement for handling and road holding. Manufacturers conduct extensive test programs to develop suitable suspension settings. Adjustments, such as lowering the vehicle, can upset the suspension characteristics and cause unpredictable handling. Generally, roll stabilizer bars, axle locating rods, upgraded shock absorbers or upgraded springs may be used provided they are suitable for the vehicle and are properly fitted. However, the following suspension modifications are not acceptable:
a) welding forged components such as stub axles or control arms;
b) fitting longer, non-standard shackles to leaf springs; and
c) fitting any additional components or altering the suspension so that the wheels or tyres may contact any component under the full range of suspension and steering travel.
d) fitting any additional components or altering the suspension ride height so that any part of the vehicle other than a wheel or tyre can contact the road in the event of a tyre deflation.
If major changes to the suspension (such as substitution of a non standard front cross member) are carried out, they should be done under the strict guidance of an engineering signatory."

Feel free to correct me if i've misread the above. Note that police can still defect LEGAL modifications its you who then has to get the defect "cleared"

Erik you should call your insurance company and ask how low you are allowed to go. Because your car is under finance the last thing you want is for your insurance to be void in case you are in an accident. I dont know if its an official vicroads rule, but i know a few insurance companies only allow a 30mm drop over the stock springs. So with your car, that means going king lows all round will void your insurance. I have king SP lows which are exaclty a 30mm drop and i believe peddars make a spring that is 20-25mm.
As for the 100mm rule, it's under ALL conditions, and includes a car load of "fully grown adults". Not sure if it specifies the average weight of a "fully grown adult" or not?
Though i dont see a car load of people on superlows will be within the legal limit.

Yeh for me it was a 30mm drop on SL kingsprings to be legal, although with another 3 people in the car over the weight of 60kilos i would be driving illegally!!!
so call your insurance company first!!

I believe this 100mm rule is a misconception, more of a guideline and that the rules simply are:

in Victoria the limit is 1/3 between the suspension and bump stop, and it cant have less than 100mm of ground clearance.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rdsafe/VSI%208.pdf

in Victoria the limit is 1/3 between the suspension and bump stop, and it cant have less than 100mm of ground clearance.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rdsafe/VSI%208.pdf thanks for thge link alan thats got everything

in Victoria the limit is 1/3 between the suspension and bump stop, and it cant have less than 100mm of ground clearance.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rdsafe/VSI%208.pdf

How much more explainatory is the VIC VSI! hmm maybe there's another NSW that goes into it?

I only put in the King SP anyway.

Erik - Springs first, wheels later. For the cruises that most Victorians go on, handling is your priority over show pony mags.. Unless youre like Ashneel..

Have a look at M4DDOG's car. He has King Spring Lows SP (30mm lower) to comply with Insurance company and VICRoads policies.

If you want to risk it then get the King Spring Lows (non-SP) which is a 45mm drop.

All springs will sag a further 10mm after wearing in.

This is the order (IMO) that you should upgrade:
Springs - $220
Strutbrace - $170
Window Tint - $230
Sway Bars (front and rears) - $400
Rim and tyres - $2200

Erik your thinking ahead here arn't you, dont you have a few months left to pay off that loan......i would wait till you've paid off the loan before you start thinking about mods to the car....well....thats what you've told me numerous times before...

I agree mostly with Bain, except i think if Erik is only interested in getting 17's or even 18's you can pick up cheap 2nd hand sets these days under $1k easily. Also it wouldn't hurt to put sway bars after rims, as i can easily keep up with cars through the mountains on cruises with just lowering (would be better with a strut brace obviously).

But then again it's totally up to you erik. Springs will give your car better handling where rims will only be for show, depends what you're after. If i didn't have rims from my TR i wouldn't have bought new rims until i had the car lowered.

A quality set of tyres whether 15, 16, 17 or 18's will be a better handling mod than swaybars, springs and strutbraces put together. Those mods only work if the car can hold on to the road...

']Erik your thinking ahead here arn't you, dont you have a few months left to pay off that loan......i would wait till you've paid off the loan before you start thinking about mods to the car....well....thats what you've told me numerous times before...1st post i've heard from you for a while !, i'm just ganna let my loan go out from my work pay and mod my car with my other money

A quality set of tyres whether 15, 16, 17 or 18's will be a better handling mod than swaybars, springs and strutbraces put together. Those mods only work if the car can hold on to the road...

Well that goes without saying :)

But if you have a quality set of tyres and your car rolls around like a pig in mud, then no matter the grip its going to handle like a... pig..

Have a look at the tyres on the car at the moment.

I bet that the outside edges of the front tyres are scrubbing off first.

Also when driving, when you go into a corner, does the car want to lean over to the outside of the corner?? Bet it does!!

Yes, stiffer and lower springs will help, as the struts have to come off to fit the springs then also add a set of front camber adjusting bolts at the same time. Set the bolts to 1degree negative. i.e. the top of the wheels lean in towards each other. You may have to get rear camber shims to avoid having excessive negative rear camber as well. Too much will make the car very skittish on ruts in the road.

Then do the rear sway bar, much more gain with this as a first change.
Read some of the posts earlier this year to see what fellow AMCers say when they did a rear bar first.

Then do the wheels and tyres.

If you stick wider wheels and tyres on without getting the suspension to work a bit better you will find that although you have more grip, at the limit the car will behave very badly and is more likely to "bite back" because the standard suspension balance is not too crash hot.

Frankly I consider that the strut brace was a waste of money on my car, probably should have have had a pair of castor bushes instead!

Shop around for wheels and tyres. e.g. Nice 17x8's and 235/45 Falken ST115's can be found for around $1500- $1600 as a package.

I originally had a GenII manual wagon. Did rear then front sway bars, camber and castor kits and just put sticker 15" tyres on. Was ridicously faster round corners, just turned and dug in, you had a feeling of going round on rails.

Hope that this helps.

Gerry.

I believe this 100mm rule is a misconception, more of a guideline and that the rules simply are:

No part of the car may touch the road under full suspention tavel.
No part of the wheel may foul any of the body or internals of the wheel arch under full suspension travel and steering.

Ground clearance isn't an issue really with ROCK HARD suspension you could be 2mm off the road with springs/shocks that WONT give. Of course it would be a highly uncomfortable ride :P

As per NSW RTA VSI06:
"Suspension
Besides assuring a comfortable ride, a vehicle’s suspension system controls wheel movement for handling and road holding. Manufacturers conduct extensive test programs to develop suitable suspension settings. Adjustments, such as lowering the vehicle, can upset the suspension characteristics and cause unpredictable handling. Generally, roll stabilizer bars, axle locating rods, upgraded shock absorbers or upgraded springs may be used provided they are suitable for the vehicle and are properly fitted. However, the following suspension modifications are not acceptable:
a) welding forged components such as stub axles or control arms;
b) fitting longer, non-standard shackles to leaf springs; and
c) fitting any additional components or altering the suspension so that the wheels or tyres may contact any component under the full range of suspension and steering travel.
d) fitting any additional components or altering the suspension ride height so that any part of the vehicle other than a wheel or tyre can contact the road in the event of a tyre deflation.
If major changes to the suspension (such as substitution of a non standard front cross member) are carried out, they should be done under the strict guidance of an engineering signatory."

Feel free to correct me if i've misread the above. Note that police can still defect LEGAL modifications its you who then has to get the defect "cleared"

Yes, the above is right, however.

There must be a 100mm height above the ground of your vehicle, and this is for any thing under your car, including the exhaust or body kit.

It is not a misconception, but a law.

Well that goes without saying :)

But if you have a quality set of tyres and your car rolls around like a pig in mud, then no matter the grip its going to handle like a... pig..

Ha ha... Just had a mental imagine of a pink magna, writhing in mud and squealing like a pig!! Wrrreeeeee Wrrrreeeee

lol lol

Ha ha... Just had a mental imagine of a pink magna, writhing in mud and squealing like a pig!! Wrrreeeeee Wrrrreeeee

lol lol
Paint an old 1st gen EFI pink and you'd get pretty close to that in the mud :P.

Erik - Springs first, wheels later. For the cruises that most Victorians go on, handling is your priority over show pony mags.. Unless youre like Ashneel..

Have a look at M4DDOG's car. He has King Spring Lows SP (30mm lower) to comply with Insurance company and VICRoads policies.

If you want to risk it then get the King Spring Lows (non-SP) which is a 45mm drop.

All springs will sag a further 10mm after wearing in.

This is the order (IMO) that you should upgrade:
Springs - $220
Strutbrace - $170
Window Tint - $230
Sway Bars (front and rears) - $400
Rim and tyres - $2200


Thanks for advice, so *edited what your is saying lowering first before the rim/tires, that was my orginal plian but i just wondering if it was going 2 be a waste money doing before i get the rims thats all, what i will have to do is make a massive saving plain up, i will be looking to be getting 18in rims so would how mcuh prince differance would that be, i rang up Vicroad and my insurance company , vicroads said 100mm off the ground ,


width = 25mm
tire dim = 15mm

it has all the information in http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rdsafe/VSI%208.pdf, when i rang up my incurance company they said if i do any mods to my car does't it add anything to the cost to my insurance plain they said no:badgrin: , so i have an idea how much money will have to save it will be about $3500 all up.

Yes, the above is right, however.

There must be a 100mm height above the ground of your vehicle, and this is for any thing under your car, including the exhaust or body kit.

It is not a misconception, but a law.

My point is where is it written, i havn't seen it?
And what would the 100mm be for hmm, some say so a body can fit but there's no way the 'average' one could!?
I will disagree with you until proven thats all...:doubt:

Erik - Springs first, wheels later. For the cruises that most Victorians go on, handling is your priority over show pony mags.. Unless youre like Ashneel..


ummm WTF dude i upgraded my handling from stock to something better first and then got rims :doubt: .

ummm WTF dude i upgraded my handling from stock to something better first and then got rims :doubt: .
A bees dick of suspension travel isnt a handling mod Ash! :bowrofl:

My point is where is it written, i havn't seen it?
I will disagree with you until proven thats all...:doubt:
Steve_R is correct.

Your wasting your time if you disagree with him.

ummm WTF dude i upgraded my handling from stock to something better first and then got rims :doubt: .

ya.. and now you want to lower it even more because thats what's 'cool'

All it means is you are degrading the handling of you car and shortening the life span of everything that is attached to your struts..

ya.. and now you want to lower it even more because thats what's 'cool'

All it means is you are degrading the handling of you car and shortening the life span of everything that is attached to your struts..


no im not lowering my car more coz its "cool" im lowering it more coz thats how I like it. and im not into that great handling coz i dont go on twisty runs or going hard around corners. but would you be able to tell me how is having a low car degrading the handling of a car and shortening the life span of everything that is attached to the struts? if you have the right shock absober wouldnt that balance everything out?

no im not lowering my car more coz its "cool" im lowering it more coz thats how I like it. and im not into that great handling coz i dont go on twisty runs or going hard around corners. but would you be able to tell me how is having a low car degrading the handling of a car and shortening the life span of everything that is attached to the struts? if you have the right shock absober wouldnt that balance everything out?

It shortens the lifespan of everything because of the jarring impact of bumps. Less travel through the suspension means more wear and tear. That goes for your cv's, bushes, struts, shocks, bump stops.. Then you can look at the other components like your gearbox, exhaust, extractors etc etc..

As for the right shock absorber.. Please point out what company makes shortened shocks and struts for the magna? (besides coilovers)

Are you going to do it the right way? or the cheap way?

It shortens the lifespan of everything because of the jarring impact of bumps. Less travel through the suspension means more wear and tear. That goes for your cv's, bushes, struts, shocks, bump stops.. Then you can look at the other components like your gearbox, exhaust, extractors etc etc..

As for the right shock absorber.. Please point out what company makes shortened shocks and struts for the magna? (besides coilovers)

Are you going to do it the right way? or the cheap way?


omg dude do you even know how low im going? im just goin from low rear to super low rears which alot of ppl on the forums have and thats not degrading the handling. im not doin it the cheap way. im doing it the right way as in gettin super low springs and putting them on unless that would seem the wrong way to you.......

if it is please shed some light

omg dude do you even know how low im going? im just goin from low rear to super low rears which alot of ppl on the forums have and thats not degrading the handling. im not doin it the cheap way. im doing it the right way as in gettin super low springs and putting them on unless that would seem the wrong way to you.......

if it is please shed some light
Wow.. you change your mind like your underwear..

Let me pull out my Crystal ball.. It shows posts from the past.. lol


not much just super lows all round with but the front has been rest a bit (dont know to wat but it looks sweet) and ill compress the back an extra inch maybe :D
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=545133&postcount=9

Going on that, you wont even need a spring compressor to put the rears in. They will float about in your struts.. But whatever floats your boat. I dont care tbh, just though someone like yourself who is trying to do it right the first time would research this sort of thing before jumping in.

Originally Posted by Ashneel
ummm WTF dude i upgraded my handling from stock to something better first and then got rims .


ya.. and now you want to lower it even more because thats what's 'cool'

All it means is you are degrading the handling of you car and shortening the life span of everything that is attached to your struts..

Bain state your views on the topic but there is no need to make smart comments as noted above. Everyone has a reason for modding their car. Eg either to look good or handle well or whatever. As most are aware there are pros and cons about doing mods. At the end of the day if Ash wants to mod and he is happy with what he is doing so be it. Statements like "ya.. and now you want to lower it even more because thats what's 'cool' " (Sarcasm) basically puts a person down.
Lets pull our head in a bit mate.

Regards

Originally Posted by Ashneel
ummm WTF dude i upgraded my handling from stock to something better first and then got rims .


ya.. and now you want to lower it even more because thats what's 'cool'

All it means is you are degrading the handling of you car and shortening the life span of everything that is attached to your struts..

Bain state your views on the topic but there is no need to make smart comments as noted above. Everyone has a reason for modding their car. Eg either to look good or handle well or whatever. As most are aware there are pros and cons about doing mods. At the end of the day if Ash wants to mod and he is happy with what he is doing so be it. Statements like "ya.. and now you want to lower it even more because thats what's 'cool' " (Sarcasm) basically puts a person down.
Lets pull our head in a bit mate.

Regards

No worries mate,

Just my dry humour :) - The Victorian guys know what im like :) Ashneel is one of em

This is my 2003 Magna VRX lowered with King Springs super lows.

ok guys back to me , i need some help chosing what i'm going with the lowering/handling of my car, i've worked out it will cost $800 for the whole lowering my car thats just the parts, i'll get some-one to do my lowering for me if thats ok, i'd rather do that waste money @ tire place and all, then i've got to work out rims/tires, i'll be going for 18s, i'll be hopefully be doing a window tint aswell.

in order


handing of car (lowering - Springs , Strutbrace, Sway Bars (front and rears) ,
window tint
rims/tires

This is my 2003 Magna VRX lowered with King Springs super lows.
Ride is excellent, cornering and braking control enchanced coz of a lower COG.

There is something seriously wrong with that picture. Check out the back tyre. :shock:


Edit: Welcome to the club.

Dude, thats just a distortion due to a wide angle lens. Anyway, thanks for pointing it out, look on the bright side....it sure beats the look of your car!!!:bowrofl:

Dude, thats just a distortion due to a wide angle lens. Anyway, thanks for pointing it out, look on the bright side....it sure beats the look of your car!!!:bowrofl:


wow!! powerful words for someone who's been on these forums for all of 2 mins.......

This is my 2003 Magna VRX lowered with King Springs super lows.
Ride is excellent, cornering and braking control enchanced coz of a lower COG.
Needs 17s :D

My point is where is it written, i havn't seen it?
And what would the 100mm be for hmm, some say so a body can fit but there's no way the 'average' one could!?
I will disagree with you until proven thats all...:doubt:

I will have the writing for you shortly, I am not at home or work, so don't have my books.

BTW Thanks Dave_Au

Needs 17s :D



So do you buddy...big time :)

wow!! powerful words for someone who's been on these forums for all of 2 mins.......


Thanks! really admire your power of observation....senior member!:D

hey shanevrx, just like to say, you sound like a knobhead.

Good day sir.

hey shanevrx, just like to say, you sound like a knobhead.

Good day sir.

Good call.

Shanevrx maybe you should learn a bit of respect. That is unless you dont plan on staying a forum member for long.

Good call.

Shanevrx maybe you should learn a bit of respect. That is unless you dont plan on staying a forum member for long.


Thanks for the feedback guys!
No, I dont plan on being a forum member for long, thank you.

Respect is a give and take thing usually. Sorry abt the harsh remarks, buy hey..they deserved it. You dont go around makin comments on people's stuff when you aint got nothin much yourself.

Thanks for the feedback guys!
No, I dont plan on being a forum member for long, thank you.

Respect is a give and take thing usually. Sorry abt the harsh remarks, buy hey..they deserved it. You dont go around makin comments on people's stuff when you aint got nothin much yourself.
Actually, it was you who mentioned that your car was far superior to another and then proceeded to be a smartas s..

And seeing as you dont plan on being here long.. Ill help you on your way.

It was a blast having you here for the 3 days you signed up.

Now lets get this thread back on topic.

lol, while were al busy flaming lol...

has anyone done those pedders sports ryder sets to thier 3rd gen's?
Aside from cost, any know if there a nice choice, as aposed to collecting springs, shocks/bars/etc, and having some 3rd party install it?

i havnt read many/anyone yet that has those pedders kits applied, is it cause of whatever the cost is, or is it just cause guys wanna do coupla bits at a time?

while im still investigating what would be nice for me, i was initally looking at have pedders do that kit for my TJ.

cheers.

Got them on the TF and they're by far the WORST set-up we've ever had!

Very Hard ride compared to Kings & Stockies on the GTV!

Now we've got Kings & Koni's on the GTV and It's a lil more solid.. but nice!

SuFz :rant:

kool, thx mate

qld-ftw!
nsw-blews :P

:)

lol, while were al busy flaming lol...

has anyone done those pedders sports ryder sets to thier 3rd gen's?
Aside from cost, any know if there a nice choice, as aposed to collecting springs, shocks/bars/etc, and having some 3rd party install it?

i havnt read many/anyone yet that has those pedders kits applied, is it cause of whatever the cost is, or is it just cause guys wanna do coupla bits at a time?

while im still investigating what would be nice for me, i was initally looking at have pedders do that kit for my TJ.

cheers.

There ok, i have the pedders shocks in my car.

I didn't have time to shop and got ripped off, but i needed new shocks pretty urgently as my car keep "bottoming out" badly. Main reason is my car is low at the back.

Go for something else.

ok guys i've finally found prices for my lowering that i will be doing a few months, it will cost all up between 300 - 500$ to get all the parts, now i need some from amc victoria to install them i don't spend between $330 professionally done, i rather some from amc victoria and if they do i'll shout them a slab of beer or something.

ok guys i've finally found prices for my lowering that i will be doing a few months, it will cost all up between 300 - 500$ to get all the parts, now i need some from amc victoria to install them i don't spend between $330 professionally done, i rather some from amc victoria and if they do i'll shout them a slab of beer or something.
I'm still waiting for my beer lol. It shouldn't cost much to install it Erik if no one on here will, maybe cost you $100-$120

I'm still waiting for my beer lol. It shouldn't cost much to install it Erik if no one on here will, maybe cost you $100-$120 padder, its costs $330 to install and balance it.

padder, its costs $330 to install and balance it.
is that with springs?

sports ryder coil Spring rh =82
sports ryder coil Spring rh =82
Sports ryder coil sporing = 164
------------------------
Fiiting = 220
4 Wheel Alignment =110
gst = 589.81
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Total = 658

sports ryder coil Spring rh =82
sports ryder coil Spring rh =82
Sports ryder coil sporing = 164
------------------------
Fiiting = 220
4 Wheel Alignment =110
gst = 589.81
------------------------
Total = 658
That's actually not that bad considering peddars's track record. I would personally stick to kings springs, should be able to get a full set for no more than $250, then installation will cost you around $100-150.

That's actually not that bad considering peddars's track record. I would personally stick to kings springs, should be able to get a full set for no more than $250, then installation will cost you around $100-150. i would rather get the parts then some one install em for me. actally to be honnest.

i would rather get the parts then some one install em for me. actally to be honnest.

do you have someone to install it for you? if not don't expect people to just install them for you! haha.. gotta make sure you can get em put in.. it sucks when you have stuff and can't use it!

Can lowering the car by 20mm-30mm just on the front be an option , just to get the stance looking better?

Can lowering the car by 20mm-30mm just on the front be an option , just to get the stance looking better?

imo, it will look odd.

do you have someone to install it for you? if not don't expect people to just install them for you! haha.. gotta make sure you can get em put in.. it sucks when you have stuff and can't use it! i just wanna 2 save some moeny of installments costs i guess i'll be saving for at $900 to get this lowering done.:nuts: :rant:

i just wanna 2 save some moeny of installments costs i guess i'll be saving for at $900 to get this lowering done.:nuts: :rant:
What the hell man? I got quoted $300 supply and fit for superlows. You shouldn't have to pay more than $400 anywhere. And a wheel allignment should only be about $70.

i just wanna 2 save some moeny of installments costs i guess i'll be saving for at $900 to get this lowering done.:nuts: :rant:
AS diciple said it should cost you $400 max, and i wouldn't be at all surprised if no one offers to help with that attitude. You can't just expect someone to install them for you, you ask nicely and maybe someone will, but you don't crack it when no one offers :nuts: .

What the hell man? I got quoted $300 supply and fit for superlows. You shouldn't have to pay more than $400 anywhere. And a wheel allignment should only be about $70.

i only reason i said that because choonga was Annyong me about getting some one to install them, yes i they should't cost more that what u and ma4dog said + i will be getting this mod done @ november, so thats 2 months of looking around.

dude you arent doing this for another 2 months and yet you still have managed to make a 7 page thread with no real answers on what springs/shocks you are using, how much it is goin to cost and who is fitting them, wow you never cease to amaze me

King springs lows i'm looking @ getting, i will have to have a look around for prices.

i only reason i said that because choonga was Annyong me about getting some one to install them, yes i they should't cost more that what u and ma4dog said + i will be getting this mod done @ november, so thats 2 months of looking around.

lol... i annoyed you with one post? wow... watch out

mate.. all i was and am saying is make sure you actually have someone to install it.. it seems this thread was to gather information to create a a target for you to save to. I'd hate to see you get the springs and find noone has the time or can be bothered installing them for you. Then because you had assumed wrong have no money to get them installed properly.

Take it easy buddy.. i'd be glad to give you a hand installing them. But i don't have any spring compressors. So if anyone with spring compressors offers to give you a hand i'll see if i can help.

lol... i annoyed you with one post? wow... watch out

mate.. all i was and am saying is make sure you actually have someone to install it.. it seems this thread was to gather information to create a a target for you to save to. I'd hate to see you get the springs and find noone has the time or can be bothered installing them for you. Then because you had assumed wrong have no money to get them installed properly.

Take it easy buddy.. i'd be glad to give you a hand installing them. But i don't have any spring compressors. So if anyone with spring compressors offers to give you a hand i'll see if i can help.


thanks, its all good matt, i will be getting these King Springs lows in 2 monthes time, closer to the date when i want them installed i will post a new thread on Victroian Amc to install King Springs lows, how does that sound.

i'd be glad to give you a hand installing them. But i don't have any spring compressors. So if anyone with spring compressors offers to give you a hand i'll see if i can help.


ey matty i got spring compressors you can borrow to help out erik :)

send em up this way big poppa lol jk

I can't believe there is an 8 page thread discussing such a lame question (there, I said it :redface: ).

In my opinion, don't worry about lowering it until you have the money to get the wheels then follow these easy steps.

Walk into a Wheel & Tyre place.
Say "I want these wheels fitted to my Magna, and I want it lowered at the same time. When can you do it?"
Drop car off on the agreed upon day, pick car up same afternoon.

The lowering shouldn't add more than $400 to the whole job, so I really don't see the big drama if you're already forking out $1500-2000 for a wheel and tyre package. It's not going to take you any longer to save up to get them done both at once than it would to get one, then the other.

*sits back and waits for Magna_evox to post a thread about panel vs pod filters, or which extractors are best :nuts:

This thread has pretty much run its course.

I can't believe there is an 8 page thread discussing such a lame question (there, I said it :redface: ).

In my opinion, don't worry about lowering it until you have the money to get the wheels then follow these easy steps.

Walk into a Wheel & Tyre place.
Say "I want these wheels fitted to my Magna, and I want it lowered at the same time. When can you do it?"
Drop car off on the agreed upon day, pick car up same afternoon.


*sits back and waits for Magna_evox to post a thread about panel vs pod filters, or which extractors are best :nuts:

Exactly mate, its like someone buying an intercooler without the turbo and having that installed and then the turbo installed later down the track, lowering will make no difference without a good set of wheels IMO, no one on the road see's a car and says fck that car looks nice lowered with hub caps, wait untill you get the money for both, purchase them at the same time then hit up ashneel for the spring compressor if he still has it then get them intalled of someone who is willing to be a good bloke and help you out!!
it will also save you a lot of dramas!!!

if anything get your wheels first, they should be your main priority not springs!!

good luck :thumbsup:

Exactly mate, its like someone buying an intercooler without the turbo and having that installed and then the turbo installed later down the track, lowering will make no difference without a good set of wheels IMO, no one on the road see's a car and says fck that car looks nice lowered with hub caps, wait untill you get the money for both, purchase them at the same time then hit up ashneel for the spring compressor if he still has it then get them intalled of someone who is willing to be a good bloke and help you out!!
it will also save you a lot of dramas!!!

if anything get your wheels first, they should be your main priority not springs!!

good luck :thumbsup:

um, choongas car??? :bowrofl:

he has rims now though

I can't believe there is an 8 page thread discussing such a lame question (there, I said it ).


In my opinion, don't worry about lowering it until you have the money to get the wheels then follow these easy steps.

Walk into a Wheel & Tyre place.
Say "I want these wheels fitted to my Magna, and I want it lowered at the same time. When can you do it?"
Drop car off on the agreed upon day, pick car up same afternoon.

The lowering shouldn't add more than $400 to the whole job, so I really don't see the big drama if you're already forking out $1500-2000 for a wheel and tyre package. It's not going to take you any longer to save up to get them done both at once than it would to get one, then the other.

*sits back and waits for Magna_evox to post a thread about panel vs pod filters, or which extractors are best



Exactly mate, its like someone buying an intercooler without the turbo and having that installed and then the turbo installed later down the track, lowering will make no difference without a good set of wheels IMO, no one on the road see's a car and says fck that car looks nice lowered with hub caps, wait untill you get the money for both, purchase them at the same time then hit up ashneel for the spring compressor if he still has it then get them intalled of someone who is willing to be a good bloke and help you out!!

it will also save you a lot of dramas!!!

if anything get your wheels first, they should be your main priority not springs!!

good luck



I know what you guys are saying but I’m not loaded with cash like the rest of you guys
if I choose to do lowering 1st, I will, I’m not getting pushed around this forum because, all guys want me to get rims first and If I chose to do lowering 1st, I will do my rims later, BB rims and lowering will be biggest and final mod for the car (out of the big mods) I will do minors mods but out of expensive ones. I will not be doing panel or pod filters or extractors or turbo, I want better handling first before I do my rims

I know what you guys are saying but I’m not loaded with cash like the rest of you guys
if I choose to do lowering 1st, I will, I’m not getting pushed around this forum because, all guys want me to get rims first and If I chose to do lowering 1st, I will do my rims later, BB rims and lowering will be biggest and final mod for the car (out of the big mods) I will do minors mods but out of expensive ones. I will not be doing panel or pod filters or extractors or turbo, I want better handling first before I do my rims
But dude, you're not listening. If you get the lowering done first, then later on get the rims, you may have to change your suspension again to suit the rims. I think that's what they're all saying, they don't want you to have to double up on anything. I mean, what happens if you get your suspension in 2 months time, then another 2 months later you get rims, only to then see you don't like how your car sits after the rims go on? Just a thought.

But dude, you're not listening. If you get the lowering done first, then later on get the rims, you may have to change your suspension again to suit the rims. I think that's what they're all saying, they don't want you to have to double up on anything. I mean, what happens if you get your suspension in 2 months time, then another 2 months later you get rims, only to then see you don't like how your car sits after the rims go on? Just a thought. when i get springs i will get them so they can accomate 18in rims so then i will not have to get them 2tice.

when i get springs i will get them so they can accomate 18in rims so then i will not have to get them 2tice.
Ok man, it's your money. I'm just trying to help. :redface:

Ok man, it's your money. I'm just trying to help. :redface: i know your tring to help, this mod will take forever i'm going to have save $2000 for the lot.

i know your tring to help, this mod will take forever i'm going to have save $2000 for the lot.

Exactly, save up $2000 and then go and get it all done at once. What's the point of having suspension upgrade to improve the handling when you're still rolling around on the standard "pizza cutter" tyres (what are they?? 205/95 or something??)

It's still going to take you the same amount of time to save up $2000 (for example) to get to the end result, so I don't see how getting one done before the other makes any difference. Hardly anyone will take a 2nd glance at a magna with factory hubcaps that is 3 or 4cm lower than normal, and big rims combined with standard springs will make the car look so tall it won't be funny.

But at the end of the day, it's your car, your money so just do whatever you want.

Exactly, save up $2000 and then go and get it all done at once. What's the point of having suspension upgrade to improve the handling when you're still rolling around on the standard "pizza cutter" tyres (what are they?? 205/95 or something??)

It's still going to take you the same amount of time to save up $2000 (for example) to get to the end result, so I don't see how getting one done before the other makes any difference. Hardly anyone will take a 2nd glance at a magna with factory hubcaps that is 3 or 4cm lower than normal, and big rims combined with standard springs will make the car look so tall it won't be funny.

But at the end of the day, it's your car, your money so just do whatever you want.ok deal thanks mate thats what i'll do then.

holy crap this threads still going???? just do what you want to do mate, its your car, if you want wheels get them, if you want it lowered then do that, i dont see why we need 10 pages for such an insignificant thing

But dude, you're not listening. If you get the lowering done first, then later on get the rims, you may have to change your suspension again to suit the rims. I think that's what they're all saying, they don't want you to have to double up on anything. I mean, what happens if you get your suspension in 2 months time, then another 2 months later you get rims, only to then see you don't like how your car sits after the rims go on? Just a thought.


:stoopid:

agree with Disciple here.

i lowered my car before i got rims and then when i got the 18's it didnt sit the way i wanted it to so i had to get the springs done again.............and im still not happy with it lol

some people u just cant please :P

Hey guys i finally went shoping for my rims and lowing and i found what i wanted, i'll be geting xhp moto rims and king lows springs all up it cost $2020,

1. Springs installed =$400
2. Rims = $980
3. Tyres 18in = $680



i'll start saving for this in november and i have all the money by feb.march, but it will be worth it.

pics of my new rims


http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7646/image006iw2.jpg

When they're installed I want pictures of the entire process, from taking off the old wheels, to putting on the new ones, putting on the suspension aswell, multiple angles on all of it including all the guys working on your car.

When they're installed I want pictures of the entire process, from taking off the old wheels, to putting on the new ones, putting on the suspension aswell, multiple angles on all of it including all the guys working on your car. u so sound like leigh there :badgrin: , thats some leigh would've said.

u so sound like leigh there :badgrin: , thats some leigh would've said.
You're right, i was about to say it until he beat me to it :rant: . Seriously though i bet your mind will change by feb next year, price may come down also!

i expect everytime you earn some money and save it for the rims that you will tell us, 10 pages of thread and u arent getting them til next yr sometime, damn erik you gotta pick it up a bit im sure youve got another 56 pages worth of crap to talk about

i expect everytime you earn some money and save it for the rims that you will tell us, 10 pages of thread and u arent getting them til next yr sometime, damn erik you gotta pick it up a bit im sure youve got another 56 pages worth of crap to talk aboutuum no, yes i f&&99d will be getting this rims. :rant:

well all ill say is gluck with the saving and all. rims are not really my cup of tea but your car and you like em so good work.

p.s the pic of your rims are upside down :D

They are Irish rims.
This is to keep the flat bits of rubber away from the road.

well all ill say is gluck with the saving and all. rims are not really my cup of tea but your car and you like em so good work.

p.s the pic of your rims are upside down :D
lol thats funny..




They are Irish rims.
This is to keep the flat bits of rubber away from the road.
:bowrofl: but thats even funnier.. Do they come with a clover leaf aswell??? :bowrofl:

lol thats funny..




:bowrofl: but thats even funnier.. Do they come with a clover leaf aswell??? :bowrofl:


nah dude just a leprechaun and a pot of gold!! lol

Erik, thats great youve decided on a set of rims.

When you get them put on.. Start another thread.

This ones over.