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Mrmacomouto
09-07-2006, 10:22 AM
What would be the legalities of say converting a Sedan into a convertable?

It is something I have been thinking about doing for a while now and I would like to be able to drive the thing on the road...

Thanks, Evan.

Ol' Fart
09-07-2006, 10:25 AM
contact your states road transport authourity and find out for sure.

Its a major job converting a 4 door to convertable and legals may be the least of yur worries.

piv
09-07-2006, 10:27 AM
Unless you're already in the business of engineering and have mates that can get that sort of things cleared it'd be a huge hassle. Convertibles are a heap heavier than sedans because of the extra bracing required in lieu of the roof. Sure it's possible, the s13 "skyvia" ute is an example - it's registered in qld and may look okay but it sure wouldn't be elegant.

As usual with conversions you're probably better off just buying a convertible...

RoGuE_StreaK
09-07-2006, 10:29 AM
Dad's a certifying engineer in NSW. One-off convertables are a huge pain in the **** to get certified, and basically the costs involved aren't worth it by any means. Need to go through torsion tests and the like, basically getting your car and twisting it in a big machine to see how well it stands up to it. So you may well destroy a car or two before getting it right...

Utes, on the other hand, are apparently an entirely different matter. With some good panel-beating skills, turning a wagon into a ute is quite doable, as the engineering side of things is apparently fairly sweet.

Mrmacomouto
09-07-2006, 10:48 AM
Bugga, I was just going to get the angle grinder out and then cap all the tops...

Looks like that idea is never going to get "street legal" status...

Ulciscor
09-07-2006, 11:08 AM
i think the best thing that can be said about this sort of thing.

If you dont know whats involved, its already beyond your capablities.

The_Monk
09-07-2006, 11:18 AM
You need diagonal bracing everywhere. And a bar running behind the two front seats would probably be a good idea.

Here was my thread about it, family issues got in the way.
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34742&highlight=convertible

Fuzzlet
09-07-2006, 03:33 PM
Convertibles are a heap heavier than sedans because of the extra bracing required in lieu of the roof
I Beg to differ...the weight of the soft top compared with the metal roof....:doubt: As for extra bracing, wouldnt weigh as much as the roof would...

piv
09-07-2006, 04:36 PM
I Beg to differ...the weight of the soft top compared with the metal roof....:doubt: As for extra bracing, wouldnt weigh as much as the roof would...

Chop a roof off a sedan and try and use that amount of metal for the bracing. Convertibles also have heaps of junk like the motors for electric roofs etc. Soft tops will be a lot lighter than a hard top but they're still typically heavier.

http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/vehicle/specs.php?key=HOLD02MJ

http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/vehicle/specs.php?key=HOLD02LJ

Admittedly the astra convertible has a bigger turbo engine, but that wont account for a full 243kg difference.

I know 300zx's are another example of this, the 2 door 2 seaters come in targa and non targa, the targa being significantly heavier. They're identical cars except for the roofs.

Fuzzlet
10-07-2006, 04:27 PM
Chop a roof off a sedan and try and use that amount of metal for the bracing. Convertibles also have heaps of junk like the motors for electric roofs etc. Soft tops will be a lot lighter than a hard top but they're still typically heavier
Haha mine is old skool lift it urself lol. Seriously I wonder how light I could make my car if I made it into a permanent hard top...

TN88
10-07-2006, 04:38 PM
[QUOTE=RoGuE_StreaK]One-off convertables are a huge pain in the **** to get certified, and basically the costs involved aren't worth it by any means.

It not worth it.I used to work for a place that did VW bugs into softtop.I was the trimmer doing the top and inside the car.It a lot of work,not worth the time and money:nuts: