hey Fellow 3rd Gens, i was just posting up a poll , what engine you guys drive, i've tried seaching for a poll on 3rd gen section but can't find one, sorry if this annoying thread

Thanks

3.5L all the way :)

The 3.5 will win hands down.

The 3.5 will win hands down. i know that i just want to know what engine u guys drive?>

Guys he's asking what engine you drive, not what you think is better :P.
I drive a 3.5L and personally think it shats all over the 3.0L, who in their right mind would buy a 3.0L, you'd have to be pretty ghey to buy a 3.0L...............lol j/k Erik :P.

:shock: wheres the 2.4 option ? they were on the 3rd gen.

:stoopid: beat me to it :)

:shock: wheres the 2.4 option ? they were on the 3rd gen.

And the 380 isnt a 3rd gen. Its not even a magna..

And the 380 isnt a 3rd gen. Its not even a magna..
lol i was going to say that but didn't want to be a smartass :P.

And the 380 isnt a 3rd gen. Its not even a magna.. remove 3.8l add the other 2.4l instead

pretty sure its been done twice before, here's one :)

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16433&highlight=enginepoll

should we even count the 2.4L? :P little weak don't you think? ^_^

should we even count the 2.4L? :P little weak don't you think? ^_^ i want bain to delete the last option and add 2.4l instead

pretty sure its been done twice before, here's one :)

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16433&highlight=enginepoll what page was it , was section, anyway that poll is on all magas/car , i just i want 3rd gen magnas.

i dunno my 3.0l seems to out perform most 3.5's when there not using triptronic (these are only cars with basic mods mind you ie extractors and chips) as far as engine performance alone i dont think there is much in it down a 1/4mile 3l sohc seems to have that down low torque.

cheers dave

i dunno my 3.0l seems to out perform most 3.5's when there not using triptronic (these are only cars with basic mods mind you ie extractors and chips) as far as engine performance alone i dont think there is much in it down a 1/4mile 3l sohc seems to have that down low torque.

cheers dave
Sorry mate but tiptronic or no tiptronic doesn't make much if at all a world of difference. Also your profile says you have a KR? Unless you've done some work to it, there's no way your car would out perform most 3.5's.
As for the 3.0 having torque down low, i can tell you the 3.5 has alot more down low, if anything the 3.0 has more in the higher rev range.

i dunno my 3.0l seems to out perform most 3.5's when there not using triptronic (these are only cars with basic mods mind you ie extractors and chips) as far as engine performance alone i dont think there is much in it down a 1/4mile 3l sohc seems to have that down low torque.

cheers dave
My car feels the opposite. I have a 3.0 and its relatively sedate below 3000 rpm but give it some revs and it hauls pretty hard. Compare mine to a 3.5 and the 3.5 definately has a torquier feel off idle but i think mine pulls harder than some 3.5's at higher revs... Mine could be a freak engine though!

My car feels the opposite. I have a 3.0 and its relatively sedate below 3000 rpm but give it some revs and it hauls pretty hard. Compare mine to a 3.5 and the 3.5 definately has a torquier feel off idle but i think mine pulls harder than some 3.5's at higher revs... Mine could be a freak engine though!
Yours also isn't stock and a 3rg gen engine, he's only got an auto KR.

Just because you beat my stock auto at heathcote i'm gonna say your engine is a freak engine :P.
But i've compared my car stock to my dads TF auto stock, and the 3.5L wins hands down, 3.0L manual vs 3.5L auto, well that's another story :P.

Sorry mate but tiptronic or no tiptronic doesn't make much if at all a world of difference. Also your profile says you have a KR? Unless you've done some work to it, there's no way your car would out perform most 3.5's.
As for the 3.0 having torque down low, i can tell you the 3.5 has alot more down low, if anything the 3.0 has more in the higher rev range.


Took my kr verada down the strip against a few 3.5's a while ago and from the word go none got get in front of me unless using triptronic excluding one vrx model that had a bit spent on engine mods. I would always get a better start almost a car length and a half ( i put this down to my stall converter) but none could actually catch me by the end though a few came close near the end.

My verada is only good for a 15.7 on a cool night (thats 26degrees up here) keep in mind my engine has had a full rebuild to 3.1L has a full exhaust,fuel reg, and larger fuel pump at the time.

Took my kr verada down the strip against a few 3.5's a while ago and from the word go none got get in front of me unless using triptronic excluding one vrx model that had a bit spent on engine mods. I would always get a better start almost a car length and a half ( i put this down to my stall converter) but none could actually catch me by the end though a few came close near the end.

My verada is only good for a 15.7 on a cool night (thats 26degrees up here) keep in mind my engine has had a full rebuild to 3.1L has a full exhaust,fuel reg, and larger fuel pump at the time.
lol there you go, it's not stock :). 15.7 is still pretty decent for an auto 12v 3.0L verada though :shock:.

Yours also isn't stock and a 3rg gen engine, he's only got an auto KR.

Just because you beat my stock auto at heathcote i'm gonna say your engine is a freak engine :P.
But i've compared my car stock to my dads TF auto stock, and the 3.5L wins hands down, 3.0L manual vs 3.5L auto, well that's another story :P.
Its definately stock! I havent opened the engine up to mod it at all! It just has a good exhaust. :D I have driven both 3.0, 3.5 manual and autos and all the 3.5's i have driven are much torquier but the 3's love the revs. So i will stand by what i said! :) Im not comparing mine to yours M4DDOG! ( You should have got a manual! :D )

Its definately stock! I havent opened the engine up to mod it at all! It just has a good exhaust. :D I have driven both 3.0, 3.5 manual and autos and all the 3.5's i have driven are much torquier but the 3's love the revs. So i will stand by what i said! :) Im not comparing mine to yours M4DDOG! ( You should have got a manual! :D )
lol no you should have got an auto so i could beat you :P.

lol no you should have got an auto so i could beat you :P.
I simply dont do auto's! Ever! lol

I have a 3.5L so i voted for that obviosly!
I dont know how the 3.8 380's go but i flog 3.8L commodores :)

Well ill give u my opinion i had an TE for 4 years did heaps of km great car then brought a 3.5l TH and then brought a 3.5l TJ and i can say the 3.5l have balls down low but the 3.0l has the goods up top but i think actuall engine wise the 3.0l was a better engine no problems at all and had to get the 3.5l recondictioned 600000km earlier than my 3.0l even the guy hew rebuilded my engine said the 3.0l will last longer so yeah and both in manual the 3.0l and 3.5l stock will be no different even some times the 3.0l manual will pull quicker times not bagging the 3.5l at all i love cruising in them better.

Sorry mate but tiptronic or no tiptronic doesn't make much if at all a world of difference.

WRONG!

heheh

Actually it does make a huge difference

Go look up the gear ratios between the tiptronic 5 speed and the cruddy 4 speed.

WRONG!

heheh

Actually it does make a huge difference

Go look up the gear ratios between the tiptronic 5 speed and the cruddy 4 speed.
lol ok you missed what i was saying (my fault for not being clear). What i meant to say was, it makes no difference whether they were using tiptronic or just had their car in D. That's what i meant to say :).

Well ill give u my opinion i had an TE for 4 years did heaps of km great car then brought a 3.5l TH and then brought a 3.5l TJ and i can say the 3.5l have balls down low but the 3.0l has the goods up top but i think actuall engine wise the 3.0l was a better engine no problems at all and had to get the 3.5l recondictioned 600000km earlier than my 3.0l even the guy hew rebuilded my engine said the 3.0l will last longer so yeah and both in manual the 3.0l and 3.5l stock will be no different even some times the 3.0l manual will pull quicker times not bagging the 3.5l at all i love cruising in them better.
From what i've seen, the 3.0L opens up abit more to basic mods (exhaust, intake etc.) and are good if you're intending to take it down the 1/4 (as it loves to rev!). But for everyday driving, i'd rather have the extra torque down low, than having to rev out more. When i test drove 3.0L compared to 3.5L (these were autos) the 3.0L just didn't have the take off the 3.5L had.

From what i've seen, the 3.0L opens up abit more to basic mods (exhaust, intake etc.) and are good if you're intending to take it down the 1/4 (as it loves to rev!). But for everyday driving, i'd rather have the extra torque down low, than having to rev out more. When i test drove 3.0L compared to 3.5L (these were autos) the 3.0L just didn't have the take off the 3.5L had.

yeah 3.5l is better everyday drive

The 3.0L engine has better reliability mostly because it uses fewer parts and also a less punishing gearbox. This also helps with mods as smaller mods seem to have a larger effect on overall performance. I wouldnt mind seeing this engine in a smaller lighter car instead of my 1496kg tank. My car seems to breath really well, i dont think the overal power has gone up much at all probally peaking at 160kw at the engine with bp ultimate but i think the peak power range is alot bigger than the 3.5. ie. instead of peaking at 4000rpm and dropping at 5000rpm, it seems to peek at 3400rpm and continue till 5600rpm. This is largelly due to a much easier breathing exhaust. with similar mods to a 3.5L i think there is a much higher peak power but less of a power band if that makes any sense?

With my 3.5 as soon as I hit 2600rpm where the injection changes over there is a huge boost in power, then I hit 4000rpm and it pulls like all ****, then 5000rpm its going gangbusters, at 6100-6200 I shift because anywhere after that it starts to loose a bit of power. When I'm getting up it with a few people in my car you can really feel the power gains at those RPM's.

The 3.0L engine has better reliability mostly because it uses fewer parts and also a less punishing gearbox.


What the ?????? lol

i dont think the overal power has gone up much at all probally peaking at 160kw at the engine with bp ultimate


Buddy, there is not a chance in hell that your car is making 160kw at the fly with the mods listed in your profile and mentioned elsewhere in this thread. Your car had roughly 124kw from factory.:doubt:

Do you have any dyno sheets to corroborate your story, or your having a guesstimate?

3.6 Stroker kit see my profile:D

I love my 3.5 :dancin: :cool:

I'm just happy my 3.0 beats the same year 1998 V6 falcons and commodores.. and is cheaper to run too :D
Wouldn't mind a 3.5 tho. But spent too much on my TF