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Nero
11-07-2006, 08:55 PM
for those who are interested the intake on the 380 (according to a Miti USA engineer) has been designed for noise reduction and a new intake will assist with a slight power increase.

Asylum
11-07-2006, 09:02 PM
so maybe a 3.5L intake? oh no, stupid throttle body changes ....

i honestly cant see it being difficult at all to get 200kw out of a 3.8 with just minor upgrades to intake and exhaust

soothers
11-07-2006, 10:54 PM
im listening....

Asylum
11-07-2006, 11:07 PM
well... my theory:

3.8 carried over a few ralliart parts, which made 180kw out of a 3.5

380 would have been further restriced to comply with euro3 standards, and to keep it as quiet as possible, so surely theres another easy 15kW to be had somewhere

Veearex
12-07-2006, 05:35 PM
im listening....

Im listening too....

MicJaiy
12-07-2006, 05:38 PM
lol @ the desperate 380 owners

Nero
12-07-2006, 05:44 PM
the ECU is much more advanced than the magna and cannot as yet be reflashed as we all know the magna can.
However I believe that the usual exhaust and intake mods will give the usual response. I'm not sure I could see 15kW without porting the heads.

VeradaBoy
12-07-2006, 09:22 PM
for those who are interested the intake on the 380 (according to a Miti USA engineer) has been designed for noise reduction and a new intake will assist with a slight power increase.
Most of you will know that the restrictive "noise reduction" intake on our 380 is Aus only. In New Zealand their 380 has a slightly more open intake hence boosting power to a neck-breaking 180kW (VRX/GT). So yeah AT THE VERY LEAST a 5-10kW upgrade should be possible...:P

Gas_Hed
12-07-2006, 10:44 PM
so maybe contact Mitsu in NZ for a replacement intake if people are really desperate for 5kW.....then again theres probably alot cheaper ways........

Veearex
13-07-2006, 03:14 AM
Most of you will know that the restrictive "noise reduction" intake on our 380 is Aus only. In New Zealand their 380 has a slightly more open intake hence boosting power to a neck-breaking 180kW (VRX/GT). So yeah AT THE VERY LEAST a 5-10kW upgrade should be possible...:P

Wasnt all that long ago that HSV's were putting out 185kw out of the tweaked 5.0 ltr V8s. :cool:

MagnaLE
13-07-2006, 08:11 AM
the ECU is much more advanced than the magna and cannot as yet be reflashed as we all know the magna can.
However I believe that the usual exhaust and intake mods will give the usual response. I'm not sure I could see 15kW without porting the heads.

In the Wheels mag a couple of months ago about Mitisubishi which basically stated that the 380 is easily capable of 190KW with just a different exhaust. They also reckoned we should expect to see it early next year.

Nero
16-07-2006, 02:31 PM
I cannot see why the engine would not respond to the usual tuning methods.

Sports
16-07-2006, 03:28 PM
Take off the cat converters just after the manifolds for starters, make some extractors, highflow cat, new mufflers, 2.5" mandral pipe, NZ snoorkel for an extra 5kw or Custom CAI and remove resonating chambers.

piv
16-07-2006, 07:04 PM
Take off the cat converters

That's a GREAT IDEA :gtfo:

Mitsiman
16-07-2006, 07:25 PM
THE RPW headers that are being sold now replace the three cat converters on the 380 with a single larger higher flowing one like a traditional magna. Worth although I need to do some dyno testing when I get the next set in, around 15kw at the flywheel by themselves and definitly from feedback from the test car in the eastern states, makes it rev harder and faster with the de restriction of the exhaust system

When we fit up a set in perth soon, we will do a before and after dyno run with a stock exhaust to compare and then maybe with a new exhaust.

Starting to really like the 380 - and room, you can swing a golf ball inside that engine bay. Definitly plenty of room for a turbo or two.

Sports
16-07-2006, 07:30 PM
That's a GREAT IDEA :gtfo:

There's 3 you dope who talks without thinking, 1 in the normal place and 2 at the manifolds.

EZ Boy
17-07-2006, 11:38 AM
200kw should be a cake walk considering the displacement, compression, cams, exhaust system. The motor is oversquare so should rev nicely, should be a very torquey proposition with intake manifold upgrade, extractors and fpr etc.

Jasons VRX
17-07-2006, 02:08 PM
There's 3 you dope who talks without thinking, 1 in the normal place and 2 at the manifolds.

The 2 at the manifolds are the primary cat convertors the other one under the car is an after cat to clean up anything missed by the primary cats.
Removing the manifold cat convertors instantly makes the car non euro3 compliant, so if you were to be tested by the EPA/RTA the car would fail emissions, even if the rest of the exhaust was standard MMAL setup.

just something to consider especially with the $10000 fine in SA if a cat convertor is removed completely (extractors on a 380 will result in 2 cats being removed remember).

_stonesour_
17-07-2006, 03:41 PM
The 2 at the manifolds are the primary cat convertors the other one under the car is an after cat to clean up anything missed by the primary cats.
Removing the manifold cat convertors instantly makes the car non euro3 compliant, so if you were to be tested by the EPA/RTA the car would fail emissions, even if the rest of the exhaust was standard MMAL setup.

just something to consider especially with the $10000 fine in SA if a cat convertor is removed completely (extractors on a 380 will result in 2 cats being removed remember).

surely though a possible ralliart 380 will have have much more power and there for have extractors and hopefully havving a completely new system that can get around this problem so ppl could "borrow" the system and still not be violating the law ? ...

its a nice thought anyways :(

EZ Boy
17-07-2006, 09:30 PM
Keep the cats, nake the primaries on the extractor loop like a trumpet. Expensive to mfr and space consuming but it's a thought. Better gains to be made on the inlet side imo.