Picked up a new Magna VRX yesterday ... pewter colour ... superb. Mid range acceleration and response is brilliant ... missed that a lot since selling my last Magna a year ago.Tiptronic (previous one standard auto box) is a bonus and promises to be a lot of fun in the days to come.

Love the car, the response (been driving a thrashed, and trashed Honda Civic hire car for a month) but the brakes are really not up to the task.

Nothing wrong, but not responsive like I would expect from such a car. Once drove (not owned, unfortunately) a BMW M5 .. now that's stopping power.

Have read the threads on brake pad upgrading ... Bendix Ultimates, EBC , Lucas ... and noted comments re dust, soft pads = better stopping = more wear.

Believe Lucas pads is the way to go ... or as the case maybe ... to stop.

A couple of questions:
.. does changing the pads and / or the rotors, adversely affect the manufacturers warranty?
.. am I alone in thinking Mitsubishi have really got it wrong with their brakes .. superb car, responsive engine but brakes more suited to a kids go-cart. Or is that too strong?

Well, if you compare the M5 rotors to the VRX ones, they are bigger, which gives you the extra stopping power. Break pads make a difference too, but bigger rotors give you the best upgrade.
However, with that, you need bigger calipers also.

Picked up a new Magna VRX yesterday ... pewter colour ... superb. Mid range acceleration and response is brilliant ... missed that a lot since selling my last Magna a year ago.Tiptronic (previous one standard auto box) is a bonus and promises to be a lot of fun in the days to come.

Love the car, the response (been driving a thrashed, and trashed Honda Civic hire car for a month) but the brakes are really not up to the task.

Nothing wrong, but not responsive like I would expect from such a car. Once drove (not owned, unfortunately) a BMW M5 .. now that's stopping power.

Have read the threads on brake pad upgrading ... Bendix Ultimates, EBC , Lucas ... and noted comments re dust, soft pads = better stopping = more wear.

Believe Lucas pads is the way to go ... or as the case maybe ... to stop.

A couple of questions:
.. does changing the pads and / or the rotors, adversely affect the manufacturers warranty?
.. am I alone in thinking Mitsubishi have really got it wrong with their brakes .. superb car, responsive engine but brakes more suited to a kids go-cart. Or is that too strong?

TJ VRX gets standard exec brakes. Only the Ralliart model got the twin pots you see now on the 380 with fade-free pads. You can do a twin pot upgrade with slotted/cross drilled rotors which will increase braking performance, and provide better and more frequent stops with little fade provided you pick a decent brake pad. Then there's always the Brembo upgrade. These are the brakes off a newer Evo (7-9) with 4 pot at the front and twin pot at the rear on even bigger rotors.

The VRX was still considered a "family car" wasn't it? The Ralli-art got some decent brakes, not sure if they're the same as whats on the vrx? I know the Ralli-art is still a "family car", but it's more the racing version, where the VRX was "sporty".

Yes, I found the brakes on the VRX pretty weak myself. Will have to upgrade soon. Might try the twin pots from the AWD/ralliart.

TJ VRX vs. BMW M5............ not even on the same planet in the brake department so don't even bother trying to draw comparisons :nuts: . Off the top of my head I'd say you're looking at almost 1 sq foot of extra braking surface and 12-16 more pistons.

At the end of the day there are brake upgrade options available as others have mentioned, but yeah - it is widely considered one of the major shortcommings of the bigger capacity 3rd Gen Magna's (excl. Ralliart and AWD models).

i find my breaks good :D but then again it is a ralliart. not sure about the ones on a VRX

Yes, I found the brakes on the VRX pretty weak myself. Will have to upgrade soon. Might try the twin pots from the AWD/ralliart.
Yeh i think there's been a few people to do this mod.

Relax..

He was just saying that the stopping power of the M5 was nice! He's not comparing!

Anyways.. If you're after a nice setup.. I believe that the TwinPots off RalliArts/AWDs are the go.. plus a nice set of DBA Drilled/Slotted Rotors.. and Lucas pads!

Running the Twin pots & Lucas pads on the GTV and they're brilliant! With the drilled/slotted rotors.. the pads would get chewed up quicker.. but still.. Worth it in the end I say!

SuFz :rant:

Ummmm Brembos are an option, if you have the money that is.

i was told by some brake fella that DBA slotted rotors and Lucas pads werent because the pads were made from KEVLAR or somthing..... not too sure on this.... maybe some1 can shed some light into this......

i was told by some brake fella that DBA slotted rotors and Lucas pads werent because the pads were made from KEVLAR or somthing..... not too sure on this.... maybe some1 can shed some light into this......

I know that DBA rotors and EBC pads are a bad idea together......... not sure on Lucas though. Sure you're not thinking of EBC?

I know that DBA rotors and EBC pads are a bad idea together......... not sure on Lucas though. Sure you're not thinking of EBC?


yep am sure... something to do with lucas.... this was some time ago.... so its probably nothing.....

I've just put kevlar pads on my TJII exec and find the brakes pretty damn good.
Bled the brakes as well and have good feel and plenty of stopping power. Bought the pads through EBay to try them out after just putting on some new stock pads of unknown brand that seemed OK. Reckon they're worth a try before going to the expense of a brake upgrade (which I've done previously on other types of cars).