ok ive read over the first post but i think my shaking of the wheel my be somthing diferent...anyone got any ideas?

heres whats happening.

*wheel shake from 100kmish onwards progressivly getting worse with more speed(tho at 100 its just noticible and isnt that bad)
*any acceleration is smooth around corners even at full lock theres no knocking
*really bad violent shaking under heavy breaking..ESPECIALLY from highers speeds.
*cvs done 20000km ago
*new front tyres,and a 4 wheel,wheel algnment last week

i was thinking it mite be the front discs...but then why would there be a slight shake n the wheel at speeds 100kmh plus?

Vibration above 100km/hr is usually out of balance wheel/tyre. The oscilating effect starts
to get more pronounced above that speed. It could be caused by one of the lead weights
dropping off (especially those glued on ones). Violent shaking during braking from high
speeds usually mean warped rotors and out of balance wheel/tyre makes it worse. I've had
both happen to me in my last car. The idiot who balanced my tyres did not clean the inside
surface of the wheels and one of the lead weights fell off after the first bump.

That's also a sign of buckled rims to from what I've been told.

Shaking under braking at speed is more likely to be something loose like a bush or a tie rod end or a wheel bearing or a bolt somewhere. Sounds like when you get up to speed there is less downward weight holding whatever from moving and allowing it to vibrate. try jacking up each front wheel one at a time and giving it a shake to see if you can feel any movement in a joint somewhere. I've had similar experience with a loose front ball joint and also a loose bolt holding the front brake caliper onto it's mounting point. ( Wheel balance or rim problems usually become evident at around 80km.)

I'm a gunna say warped disk rotors
or loose bolts on the calpers
or grease on the rotors

*wheel shake from 100kmish onwards progressivly getting worse with more speed(tho at 100 its just noticible and isnt that bad)
*really bad violent shaking under heavy breaking..ESPECIALLY from highers speeds.

had similar symptoms with TN when one of the CV boots burst.

It dumped its grease onto the wheel inner (unbalanced it)
and left a skidmark across the brake disc (half the disc was 'greased').

Wierdest symptom to occur, disappeared after cleaning off the grease.
Then also had to recover the CV of course.

Had the same problem with CV!

I dare say the alignment job that was done wasn't done right! Its a possibility, no doubt it only became noticeable after you had the alignment... Now its unlikely... but the balancing of the wheels could be correct but showing another problem (ie the wheels were off balance to counteract it)but thats so unlikely! lol

I just think it was probably a poor balancing job. Some garages or places are hopeless, depending on who the mechanic is that does it. Big places are not necessarily better! Some people can balance it perfectly the old fashioned way, some people use the electronic laser method and still stuff it up!

Swap one of your rear wheels to teh front and see what happens. Magna's are prone to a pretty nasty front wheel shimmy when teh hub bearings are on the way out, and are also very sensitive to wheels/tyres that are out of round and have runout, but that holds true to all FWD cars. Fiance's TS had a nasty shimmy when I fitted some second hand wheels and tyres to it, fixed it by swapping the wheels front to rear. New tyres wil fix it eventualy.
What you get away with on a non drive wheel (ie, rear wheel drive front wheel) can cause lots of grief on a FWD car.
Warped rotors only really cause problems when braking.

Regards, Andrew.

I'm a gunna say warped disk rotors
or loose bolts on the calpers
or grease on the rotors

Had the exact same thing on the commie but it wasnt loose, it wasnt there :shock:

i have similar problem but havent worked it out yet....
tried new disk and machining other
maybe bearings..............................

one of your front tyres are out of round......

Ive swapped wheels
checked bolts on calipers and suspension etc

i'd be getting your front rotors replaced. shaking steering wheel under braking will be the front rotors either warped or you have whats called a hot spot on them. the reason it's shaking while general driving is due to the fact that the rotors are not 100% round and therefore causing a vibration to come through to your steering wheel.

this is a very common thing for late model manual camry's, almost all of them were recalled to get the front rotors replaced and even then it still didn't fix some of them, having to get get after market rotors (e.g. non genuine)

Unbalanced tyre AND a stuffed shockie?? Would explain the vibration at speed and slowing from speed?

rotor is more of a shdder than a vibration..... as the rotor grips and slips...

I've just got rid of this problem myself, steering shuddering whilst accelerating, especially over 100. A simple wheel balance may be all that you require or, in my case two new rims as they wouldn't balance without 150g weights :nuts:
Start with a wheel balance n go from there m8

By the looks of it you need a GOOD wheel balance not some apprentice, although i was an appretice once upon a time, i just heard too many bad things with apps tyre fitters and car wheels!
(not staying where they should if you know what i mean)!lol

Vibration above 100km/hr is usually out of balance wheel/tyre. The oscilating effect starts
to get more pronounced above that speed.

It could be caused by one of the lead weights
dropping off (especially those glued on ones).


Violent shaking during braking from high
speeds usually mean warped rotors and out of balance wheel/tyre makes it worse. I've had
both happen to me in my last car...

:stoopid:

i had what you had in my tp after getting new tyres and an alingment done.
would vibrate from 100-120klms then go away.
went back and got the owner to take a look at the tyres and re-balace them.
I found out the new tyres had run-out(a slight flat spot from factory, bad batch).
so they put some new good years on that where 80 bucks more to buy but i got them the same price cos of the run-out bonus:cool:

Check that you have all the CBL (Center Ball Locator's) in for all your 18" rims, if they aren't there it maybe causing your rims to bounce off the rotors.

They are small O rings that i needed to fit from the Magna's 67mm rotor to the 18" rims 73mm wide center on my car, without it the wheel would be 3mm off each side, and could cause a little wobble at high speeds.

Thats the only thing i could think of, cos it happened to me, but i ain't no expert in this field of cars.

If the wheel nuts have been tightened properly then not having plastic hub locators shouldn't be a problem, ive had a few cars and not had a problem.:nuts: