View Full Version : Cant get sump bolt undone...
petesmith
17-07-2006, 05:05 PM
:rant:
I can't get the sump bolt undone...i have drowned it in WD40 overnight, tried that and it still didnt come off....
Any ideas of an easy way to get it off...or a hard way...as long as it comes off!!
Maccy D
17-07-2006, 05:34 PM
More WD40 overnight. Get the car up on ramps and try to have a better go at it.
Ulciscor
17-07-2006, 05:40 PM
Step 1) Get the right sized socket, 6 sided one, not the multi ones, if you get me.
Step 2) Get the longest socket extension you have, if you need to slide a steel pipe over the socket bar, so extend it, increasing you leverage.
Step 3) Lye down underneath the car, accross ways, put the socket on the sump nut. making sure its solidly on there, now brace your feet against the opposite wheel, and grab hold of the very end of the bar with both hands and pull up with all your might.
Step 4) Failing that, go to the gym for a few months you weakling, and repeat steps 1-3
good luck
Gas_Hed
17-07-2006, 05:45 PM
I did what Ulcicsor said, but also had a second person holding the socket against the bolt so it wouldnt slip.......funny cos it was only yesterday, conincidence lol
KING EGO
17-07-2006, 05:51 PM
Step 4) Failing that, go to the gym for a few months you weakling, and repeat steps 1-3
good luck
Golden.. lol lol lol
Yeah its all about the lever bar size..:P
OldOne
17-07-2006, 07:16 PM
My $0.02 worth.....having been in the same situation heaps of times:
This usually works for me:
Before starting, buy a new sump plug and gasket.
Make some room under the car. Ramps or stands. Not a wheel jack.
I reckon a ring spanner is okay for the job - its a lot easier to keep
in correct position, as the sump plug head is not real tall, and sockets
will slip off if they aren't almost exactly square-on.
Double-check that you are trying to turn the bolt the right way to undo
it. Its easy to get confused about the right direction when you are lying
underneath cars.
What works for me is not to use a brute force approach, but to whack the
end of the spanner with a light hammer a few times in the "undo" direction.
This almost always works, and is easier to do if you have someone else hold
the spanner on the sump plug while you do the whacking.
Don't re-use the sump plug if it looks damaged (corners rounded). They cost
only a dollar or two, and you want to be able to undo it next time too.
If it won't undo after a few good hammer whacks, think about whether to
keep trying, or take it to a mechanic. A workshop will get it loose in a few
seconds (rattle gun, with maybe a bit of heat applied as well). You don't
want to snap off the plug head or round its corners!
Good luck!
Old One.
Magnette
17-07-2006, 07:53 PM
Are you working whilst the engine is warm?
TSWAGS
17-07-2006, 08:27 PM
ok at work we use a product called "Rost Off Ice". It works absolute wonders, bolts that 2 blokes cant undo, spray a ****load, wait a bit and she cracks no worries
petesmith
17-07-2006, 09:36 PM
I have tried with the engine warm and the engine cold...
I have also tried with a hammer...no good...
I guess ill take it to a mechanic tomorrow to get it off...
Where can i get a new sump plug from?
[TUFFTR]
17-07-2006, 09:41 PM
have you tried a VERY long breaker bar??
sump plugs you can get from super cheap for like $3
Gas_Hed
17-07-2006, 09:42 PM
Mitsu, Repco, Autobarn, Supercheap, Auto Pro, Auto One..........anywhere basically.....
kempeowen
17-07-2006, 10:18 PM
go to mitsu and get the genuine one, and also get the "O" rubber, they don't come with it, you have to ask, i had to anyway when i replaced mine.
Cost was about 3 or 4 bucks
[TUFFTR]
17-07-2006, 10:31 PM
go to mitsu and get the genuine one, and also get the "O" rubber, they don't come with it, you have to ask, i had to anyway when i replaced mine.
Cost was about 3 or 4 bucks
why do you need a sump plug thats genuine mitsubishi:confused:
might be a bit out of his way for basically the same sump plug sold everywhere else cept in a mitsu packet:confused:
pyr0magna
18-07-2006, 04:32 AM
breaker bars is your best bet for getting the old sump plug off, just something to consider once its off, and your putting on the new one dont use a rubber "O" ring unless you really want to, because they detriorate quickly use a copper ring instead.
_x_FiReStOrM_x_
18-07-2006, 10:13 AM
Turn it anti-clockwise to undo it... :bowrofl:
petesmith
18-07-2006, 10:22 AM
Went to local mechanic, undid it for me. No new sump plug needed...oil changed, running better! Thanks for all your help...!
manifesto
18-07-2006, 11:53 AM
i had the same problem! had to use a rattle gun to get it off! god that think was a biatch to get undone - coulda swung off it!
Gas_Hed
18-07-2006, 12:51 PM
I use a bit of lead in the shape of a washer between the plug and the sump.....never had any dramas getting one undone when this is on it..........also lead moulds to shape and creates nice seal.....
Mrmacomouto
18-07-2006, 02:16 PM
Really big shifter + a hammer did the trick for me.
OldOne
18-07-2006, 05:26 PM
Good to see the problem was solved!
Did you look over the mechanic's shoulder? How did they get it off? Rattle gun?
On a similar note, I changed the fuel filter in our KR Verada last weekend. Took me
a couple of hours. Its in an awkward position on the firewall, and the fuel line nuts
was just mega tight. Not my doing, I haven't changed this filter myself before.
Sprayed the nuts with heaps of Penetrene and left it overnight. The top one
loosened without too much drama, but that bottom one was a royal pain. Some time
ago I read an informative post here strongly advising that one use a proper pipe
spanner on this nut, so I made sure I did. A pipe spanner is like a single hex ring
spanner with a piece out of it so it slips over the fuel line, for those who haven't
seen one. An open end spanner will wreck this nut very quickly.
Using two spanners, to avoid twisting the filter and thus wrecking the fuel line, my
nineteenth major heave, or so it seemed, got it free. It took a big effort, and I am
not a weakling.
I've no idea why so many people over-tighten nuts and spark plugs on cars. They
cause a lot of problems for other people to solve.
I cut the old filter open out of curiosity, to see if I really needed to change it, and it
was full of crap. It might even be the original filter (car has done 200k). Maybe a
succession of service mechanics put the job in their "too hard" baskets over the
years.
Now the car idles at 1500 rpm for no apparent reason......I am still thinking about that.
Cheers,
Old One.
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