Anyone know how to install a switch (which would be hidden of course) to stop the car from starting until turned on?

A friend's car came with one but they have no idea how to do it.
They turn off ignition and before they leave the car flick this switch meaning the car wont start until turned back on.

Cheers for any help, really keen to do this
Josh

Also its a '93 TR 4cyl. DO you need a relay? What sort etc.? Thanks

i had one in my old falcon that was that, a double tap switch, if u found it, in the right sequence, other wise, the engine would never fire.

from memory, its just one of them cheap ones from supoor cheap imobiliser kits.

tho, a halfway decent car alarm will do the same thing too.

yeah im pretty sure we got em @ super cheap josh

Anyone know how to install a switch (which would be hidden of course) to stop the car from starting until turned on?
Depends how much mucking about you're comfortable with.

There are screw-top battery terminals that you turn to disconnect the battery.

Or put a small $2 switch on the feed wire to the fuel pump and/or the coil primary.

Any ideas or colours of these wires i need to tap into and what gauge wire i will need?

Depends how much mucking about you're comfortable with.

There are screw-top battery terminals that you turn to disconnect the battery.

Or put a small $2 switch on the feed wire to the fuel pump and/or the coil primary.


Like he said.. There is lots of ways you can do it.. just depends how good you are with messing aroubd and what you know..:)

An old car I used to own had a fun switch on it.
From memory it was a solenoid or something from a Petrol/LPG kit.
The part that switches the fuel line from Petrol to LPG and back.
When the hidden switch was "off" the fuel line was cut (expecting to find the LPG - which there was none).
When the hidden switch was "on" the petrol flowed through it as normal.

What this achieved was that if someone did manage to steal the car, it would get about a KM down the road and literally run out of petrol. They would be stuck in the middle of the street or intersection. Not a place where a would-be-thief would want to rip out a radio, slash seats or look for hidden switches. :bowrofl:

Only problem with it was that I forgot to flip the switch a couple of times and ran out of petrol in said intersections etc. But just a flip of the switch, pump of the accelerator and off we go :D

An old car I used to own had a fun switch on it.
From memory it was a solenoid or something from a Petrol/LPG kit.
The part that switches the fuel line from Petrol to LPG and back.
When the hidden switch was "off" the fuel line was cut (expecting to find the LPG - which there was none).
When the hidden switch was "on" the petrol flowed through it as normal.

What this achieved was that if someone did manage to steal the car, it would get about a KM down the road and literally run out of petrol. They would be stuck in the middle of the street or intersection. Not a place where a would-be-thief would want to rip out a radio, slash seats or look for hidden switches. :bowrofl:

Only problem with it was that I forgot to flip the switch a couple of times and ran out of petrol in said intersections etc. But just a flip of the switch, pump of the accelerator and off we go :D
lol my tr had the exact same thing.

Ive got on on my VRX,,, use the "ingear" wire near your gear shifter (auto) the ECU thinks the car is in gear (D) and wont start untill you press the button and then it thinks the car is in P or N

That sounds like a good idea jay, not really into playing with the fuel lines etc but this wire would be fine. How do you do this and what colour are the wires that i need to tap a switch into? Cheers

ill have to have a look,,, its only one wire you cut and put a switch in line,,,
its just the ingear wire, stops the car from starting if you leave it in D,,, works a treat,, ill find what colour it is and write up a FAQ thing

Ive got on on my VRX,,, use the "ingear" wire near your gear shifter (auto) the ECU thinks the car is in gear (D) and wont start untill you press the button and then it thinks the car is in P or N


now thats a nice idea!

im looking at getting a kill switch
which is the best method getting auto electrition to do it

im looking at getting a kill switch
which is the best method getting auto electrition to do it
Grammer would be tops..

All you need is an ON/OFF switch.
Run it in-line with the ignition switch that goes to your starter motor. when you flick it the car wont crank. Pretty simple really. very easy theft deterrent.

i had the idea of installing a cheap RFID relay, wave a small RFID tag that u attach to your key ring, over a area of your choice (i was planning a certain area of the dashboard), to activate it, and boom a hidden kill switch that cant be found, and wont be in an incovenient location

u could also try putting a switch inline with the signal wire to the starter relay... but there are tonnes of ways of doing it

Funny, I was talking about kill switches with LUGO today!

We spoke about a few ideas:

- Making points of contact in the cigarette lighter, so if the lighter is out of the plug the circuit is broken.
- Using hidden magnets - such as in the case of treadmill safety keys. Two hidden points of contact behind thin plastic part of dash. Placing the magnet over where the contacts are completes the circuit.
- Using standard manufacturing buttons and controls - got a blank part of the dash where a standard manufactures button or switch may usually go? Get the button/switch from a wreckers and it may look like a demister button, but it's actually your kill switch!

yeah, take the surrounds from around the switch away, you will see a white ring that surrounds the switch, there are two black wires coming out of it, follow these wires to a plug, after the plug, the wires turn from black to red and black, cut the black one and put a switch on it.

if the switch is set to off, the engine light will come on, and the car wont start. the car wont start until you turn the key to off, then turn the switch on, and the fire the motor,

alternatively, make sure the kill switch is on before turning the motor over, and it will go first time.

i literally just did mine, took about 10 mins.

pics

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm292/bellto/22042009313.jpg

']Grammer would be tops...
So would spelling... :P

My old car had one i had it connected to the Coil $50 for Auto Elec to intall one including parts. It had a pull push on off switch under the dash.

I hade a mate who needed to touch something metal while turning the key to complete the ignition circute. That was pretty cool.

As I've mentioned to a few people before, wire in the cig lighter socket as part of the fuel pump circuit so without the cig lighter, the fuel pump doesn't run = car doesnt start.

It'd be like installing a switchable circuit breaker in the fuel pump power circuit.

the setup i use on my verada is even with the keys unless you know where the 2 switches are you cant start it.

Ive got a super hidden on/off switch which shorts the setup out if i have issues with the wiring i added (like a failsafe) the key needs to be in 'ON' and a momentory switch on the ignition wire under the dash console needs to be flicked while turning the key to start. Both key and switch can be easily reached at the same time so it doesnt really make starting the car any different.

I then also have the on/off switch on the whole loop, kept in off, which requires the key and switch at the same time. In the on position it can be key started but it would take a while to find this switch, thanfully i was thoughtful enough to solder the wiring in as i was worried about shorts stopping me starting the car.